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Corto

Corto

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Savant said:
So here is the thing, it’s not the NFL. And while the Americanization of European sport is happening, it’s completely unnecessary here. NFL (regular season) schedule is not a good comparison because it’s not seeded. UCL is seeded. What’s the point of finishing in Pot 1 if a Pot 4 team is going to get an easier schedule? It makes no sense. For example, Aston Villa got the easiest fixtures compared to the three English teams that finished in higher pots than them. That’s simply should not be happening in a seeded draw. Combining that with the extra games and an extra round for all but eight of the advancing teams, this is not an improvement

Yeah it could certainly be tweaked for next year; for example maybe if you finish Pot 1 you get an extra Pot 4 opponent and one less Pot 2 opponent; but the whole thing is such a cash grab that UEFA/club owners/etc would probably not want to sacrifice and extra high profile game for an easier game. That’s why this is bad. And the fact that the change was unnecessary in the first place
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I agree with you, but to just hit further on that NFL comparison, the weaker teams do get a more favorable schedule next season.

This is going waay off-topic, but basically:
  • Six games against divisional opponents — two games per team, one at home and one on the road.
  • Four games against teams from a division within its conference — two games at home and two on the road.
  • Four games against teams from a division in the other conference— two games at home and two on the road.
  • Two games against teams from the two remaining divisions in its own conference — one game at home and one on the road. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.
  • The 17th game is an additional game against a non-conference opponent from a division that the team is not scheduled to play. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.


    So, it's not just the luck in which other divisons you face (which is massive enough, facing NFC North with 4 winning teams, or AFC South with Houston and 3 tomato can teams), but also the opponents you face in the rest of the schedule are based on where you placed in the division last season - if you placed 4th, you get the 4th placed team from that division.

    It's why, for example, Chicago has a historically soft schedule, and they might be 7-2 in 3 weeks time, yet still anyone will expect the top teams to roll over them.


    Anyyywaaay.... I don't like the new format.
 
luiginb

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hatterson said:
Even if Barca were to go bankrupt (which isn't going to happen), there's not a chance in hell that local politicians are gonna let them fold. They're far too much a part of the cultural identity and they'll just get some sort public grant.
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Plus our football school is the best in the world no contest, half of our team is kids none of you even heard of 2 or 3 years ago.
 
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Duchene2MacKinnon

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hatterson said:
Even if Barca were to go bankrupt (which isn't going to happen), there's not a chance in hell that local politicians are gonna let them fold. They're far too much a part of the cultural identity and they'll just get some sort public grant.
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It’s a post from two years ago. I’m just glad they were able to punch them in the face yesterday. mueller in the verge of tears yesterday on the bench is probably the best moment I’ve had as a Barca fan in 5 years. f*** those guys.
 
Corto

Corto

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Barca looks awesome under Flick. And like luigi said, they're doing it with always a couple of youngsters in their starting 11, fantastic.
 
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Duchene2MacKinnon

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Scandale du Jour said:
Tomorrow, they come back to Earth ;)
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I would say to send Madrid to hell but they already live in Madrid.
cgf said:
That’s just an early season fluke, we’ll erase that meager 3pt lead they have in no time.
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Worst team in a decade and only lead the Bundesliga by 3 points. They could be as good as Union beating Muller with his ugly mug on the bench was worth it.
 
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Duchene2MacKinnon said:
I would say to send Madrid to hell but they already live in Madrid.

Worst team in a decade and only lead the Bundesliga by 3 points. They could be as good as Union beating Muller with his ugly mug on the bench was worth it.
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I get that, they did it too themselves but laughing at Bayern's downfall is still fun. I was being genuine when I said how excited you guys got was adorable.
 
Savant

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Corto said:
I agree with you, but to just hit further on that NFL comparison, the weaker teams do get a more favorable schedule next season.

This is going waay off-topic, but basically:
  • Six games against divisional opponents — two games per team, one at home and one on the road.
  • Four games against teams from a division within its conference — two games at home and two on the road.
  • Four games against teams from a division in the other conference— two games at home and two on the road.
  • Two games against teams from the two remaining divisions in its own conference — one game at home and one on the road. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.
  • The 17th game is an additional game against a non-conference opponent from a division that the team is not scheduled to play. Matchups are based on division ranking from the previous season.


    So, it's not just the luck in which other divisons you face (which is massive enough, facing NFC North with 4 winning teams, or AFC South with Houston and 3 tomato can teams), but also the opponents you face in the rest of the schedule are based on where you placed in the division last season - if you placed 4th, you get the 4th placed team from that division.

    It's why, for example, Chicago has a historically soft schedule, and they might be 7-2 in 3 weeks time, yet still anyone will expect the top teams to roll over them.


    Anyyywaaay.... I don't like the new format.
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To a point, but also the NFL is designed to be a parity league. Or at least create the illusion that it is though. Everyone has the same salary cap. That’s obviously not what we are seeing in Europe.
 
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Real still trying to fit Vini, Mbappe and Bellinghim into attacking trio against Milan. Wonder, who might spend most time on the right flank.

Who is this Simpson-Pusey starting as a CB for man City? Doesn't seem to matter as Foden puts them ahead after 4 mins.

Thiaw puts Milan ahead from Pulisic corner. His first ever Milan goal.
 
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gary69 said:
Real still trying to fit Vini, Mbappe and Bellinghim into attacking trio against Milan. Wonder, who might spend most time on the right flank.

Who is this Simpson-Pusey starting as a CB for man City? Doesn't seem to matter as Foden puts them ahead after 4 mins.

Thiaw puts Milan ahead from Pulisic corner.
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Pusey might be a rather unfortunate name to have, depending on how you pronounce it.
 
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