Confirmed Trade: [CGY/OTT] Curtis Lazar and Mike Kostka for Jyrki Jokipakka and a 2nd

[Tkachuk Norris]

Lazar has 1 G, 2 A in 4 games. Looks really good in the games he played in.

 

[xVolchenkov]

Lazar has 1 G, 2 A in 4 games. Looks really good in the games he played in.

Happy for the kid. Seemed like a nice enough guy but it was clear it wasn't going to work out here.

 

[Spezza]

Glad the change of scenery seems to be doing him some good.

 

[vippe]

Lazar has 1 G, 2 A in 4 games. Looks really good in the games he played in.

Good for him

But 4 games? Benched or injured in between?

 

[Mr Sakich]

Good for him

But 4 games? Benched or injured in between?

benched. he will be available at the expansion draft. Not sure if he is worth a 2nd rounder

 

[InfinityIggy]

benched. he will be available at the expansion draft. Not sure if he is worth a 2nd rounder

No he won't. Brouwer/Stajan will be exposed. Flames have room to protect him.

 

[DJJones]

benched. he will be available at the expansion draft. Not sure if he is worth a 2nd rounder

that would be idiotic to expose him.

100 percent chance hes protected

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Good for him

But 4 games? Benched or injured in between?

Flames haven't had injuries much at all this whole year and Gulutzan loves his vets. He's better then Bouma for sure.

 

[ComixZone]

benched. he will be available at the expansion draft. Not sure if he is worth a 2nd rounder

Yeah, no he won't.

Gaudreau
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Ferland
Lazar

are the 7 Flames forwards that they'll protect. The Flames like Lazar a lot, and have asked him to be patient - as they have a plan for him long-term. He's looked very good in the 4 games he's played thus far, and should pose an interesting question for Gulutzan as to whether Bouma or Lazar plays in the playoffs. With that being said, the Flames seem deadset on sticking to their plan, which likely means Lazar only drawns in if someone gets injured.

 

[DFF]

benched. he will be available at the expansion draft. Not sure if he is worth a 2nd rounder

You may be wrong on both

1) The Flames should protect him ahead of Brouwer and Stajan. Unless Brouwer turned into a beast in the playoff. Chance of that is close to nil.

2)He is definitely worth a 2nd. A 2nd is often overrated. This is also a weak draft. In limited action, he has shown he is worth more than most of the Flames 2nd rounders in the last 10 yrs.

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

Good for him

But 4 games? Benched or injured in between?

Worked on fixing the damage that Ottawa did to him.

 

[Cynick]

Lazar has 1 G, 2 A in 4 games. Looks really good in the games he played in.

This is great – he's hard not to cheer for. Glad that it's working out for him. Hope he can secure a more permanent spot next year.

 

[Samsquanch]

Worked on fixing the damage that Ottawa did to him.

Meh. Curtis punched his own ticket out of town when he asked his agent to complain about his ice time. How do you justify pulling out someone who's playing better than him?

I'm happy to see that he's doing well in Calgary, I do like the kid. But at this point on the Sens I'm taking Dzingel, MacArthur, Burrows, Stalberg, Pyatt, Wingels, and even newly signed Colin White over Lazar right now. Maybe it's not as deep over in Calgary and he gets a better opportunity there.

 

[boredmale]

Hope he can secure a more permanent spot next year........

In Vegas

Not sure what Calgary protection list looks like but an under 23 forward with a little potential has to be tempting(assuming he is available)

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

In Vegas

We aren't protecting overpaid vets like Stajan or Brouwer over him

 

[boredmale]

We aren't protecting overpaid vets like Stajan or Brouwer over him

Fair enough and a smart move, any chance though Calgary is worried about their defense and might choose the 8-1 over 7-3-1?

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Fair enough and a smart move, any chance though Calgary is worried about their defense and might choose the 8-1 over 7-3-1?

Nope. Stone is a UFA. So he probably just signs with us/someone else after expansion.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Why is Stajan even being mentioned? There's literally no scenario in which he would be protected.

Flames list is 100% set

Forwards:
Gaudreau
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Ferland
Lazar

Defense:
Giordano
D.Hamilton
Brodie

Goalie:
Elliott

Exposed:
UFA's: Stone, Versteeg, Engelland, Johnson, Bollig
Under contract: Brouwer, Stajan, Bouma, F.Hamilton, Bartkowski, Poirier, Shinkaruk, McCollum
RFA's: Chiasson, Wotherspoon, Kulak, Morisson, Vey, Culkin

McPhee will take Brouwer even if Treliving has to pay him to do so

 

[Phrasing]

Meh. Curtis punched his own ticket out of town when he asked his agent to complain about his ice time. How do you justify pulling out someone who's playing better than him?

I'm happy to see that he's doing well in Calgary, I do like the kid. But at this point on the Sens I'm taking Dzingel, MacArthur, Burrows, Stalberg, Pyatt, Wingels, and even newly signed Colin White over Lazar right now. Maybe it's not as deep over in Calgary and he gets a better opportunity there.

Surprising to see the 180 you've done on him.

 

[edguy]

Meh. Curtis punched his own ticket out of town when he asked his agent to complain about his ice time. How do you justify pulling out someone who's playing better than him?

I'm happy to see that he's doing well in Calgary, I do like the kid. But at this point on the Sens I'm taking Dzingel, MacArthur, Burrows, Stalberg, Pyatt, Wingels, and even newly signed Colin White over Lazar right now. Maybe it's not as deep over in Calgary and he gets a better opportunity there.

Pretty much this.

Curtis had to earn ice time in Ottawa and he wasnt able to do that. Calgary is alot thinner up front and can give him minutes.

 

[boredmale]

Exposed:
UFA's: Stone, Versteeg, Engelland, Johnson, Bollig
Under contract: Brouwer, Stajan, Bouma, F.Hamilton, Bartkowski, Poirier, Shinkaruk, McCollum
RFA's: Chiasson, Wotherspoon, Kulak, Morisson, Vey, Culkin

McPhee will take Brouwer even if Treliving has to pay him to do so

In all honesty given this list and how I feel there will be much better defensemen left open then forwards. I probably would take my chances with Vey or Shinkaruk. While Bouwer is probably the best player on that list if I am Vegas i make teams give me something to take their regretful contracts so I probably can't afford his contract when I have a bunch of other bigger and worse ones

My breakdown of how I would draft is

5 bad contracts where the team pays me something to take that contract(but still quality NHLers)
10 quality NHLers
15 younger cheaper guys who are looking for their break

I would be open to drafting more quality NHLers if I can turn around and trade them for something though

 

[soliak]

Lazar could of easily had another goal(hit the post) and a few assists, too. He's been playing well, will definitely get protected in the expansion draft.

I see Vegas taking Brouwer as mentioned by others, with us probably giving them something to do so. Maybe we won't have to though...he is significantly better than anyone else we would expose, despite his crappy year with the Flames.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

benched. he will be available at the expansion draft. Not sure if he is worth a 2nd rounder

As mentioned..NO

Curtis is a project that the Flames deem worth it, he was rushed and misused(no offense Ottawa fans)...he will be protected without a doubt.

And watching him play the last couple of games makes me think we should have gave up a 1st!

 

[viper0220]

Why is Stajan even being mentioned? There's literally no scenario in which he would be protected.

Flames list is 100% set

Forwards:
Gaudreau
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Ferland
Lazar

Defense:
Giordano
D.Hamilton
Brodie

Goalie:
Elliott

Exposed:
UFA's: Stone, Versteeg, Engelland, Johnson, Bollig
Under contract: Brouwer, Stajan, Bouma, F.Hamilton, Bartkowski, Poirier, Shinkaruk, McCollum
RFA's: Chiasson, Wotherspoon, Kulak, Morisson, Vey, Culkin

McPhee will take Brouwer even if Treliving has to pay him to do so

if Vegas takes Brouwer, that would be a huge help.

 

[Snakepit]

I've been thrilled with what we've seen from Lazar so far. Such a fantastic attitude, he himself said that he knows he wouldn't get in the lineup right away when he got here since the team was clicking so we'll, and when he did get in the lineup he's worked his butt off and produced every time.

You don't see enough guys these days like him that look like they're loving every second of it out there.