Confirmed Trade: [CGY/NJD] Simon Nemec, Maxim Tsyplakov for Etienne Morin, 2026 2nd, 2027 VGK 1st (top 10 protected), 2028 COL 1st (top 10 protected)

[Eggtimer]

Sunny was here, too, and owns some of the mess. It's hard to imagine this front office being much different than the previous regimes.

In fact, this "asset management" deal has all of the non-hockey, actuarial moves of the last two decades.

Little thought to building a team but rather getting assets.

If the last decade of Stanley Cups have proven anything, teams win with people not chips.

Pump the brakes . Sunny was here too ? When ? Years ago . I am very confident that Sunny will use these picks as a package to trade for top 6 winger / 2C help .

 

[HockeyWooot]

Two 1sts seems tad expensive but otherwise a good young player for Calgary to take a punt on and hopefully thrive with a change in scenery.

 

[Fig]

Awesome work from Calgary. I think he will excel.

You need to go to more games in Calgary wearing Czech or Slovak jersey. Lol. Oilers ain't giving you any of that.

 

[Bcap88]

Sunny was here, too, and owns some of the mess. It's hard to imagine this front office being much different than the previous regimes.

In fact, this "asset management" deal has all of the non-hockey, actuarial moves of the last two decades.

Little thought to building a team but rather getting assets.

If the last decade of Stanley Cups have proven anything, teams win with people not chips.

Well you need the chips to get the people lol

 

[GaboriklessWild]

Its also more goals than Jaccob Slavin has ever scored, and I don't think anyone would take Nemec over Slavin.

It's almost like there's more to being an NHL defenseman than scoring goals...

That's like comparing apples to oranges. They are two completely different players. Slavin began his NHL career as a purely defensive player. At least Hanifin's comparison made some sense, since he started out in the NHL as an offensive defenseman. However, Nemec's brief NHL career so far has shown that he has much more offensive potential and much better on defense than the 22yo Hanifin was.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Is this NJD signalling rebuild or just clearing a path to get Hughes from Minny?

 

[Fatass]

Are the Flames not so keen on Parak and Brzustewic now? Thought their right side on D looked okay for the future.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Are the Flames not so keen on Parak and Brzustewic now? Thought their right side on D looked okay for the future.

Depth is good on D

 

[Siignal]

Parekh is LD, confirmed by Conroy

 

[Bcap88]

Is this NJD signalling rebuild or just clearing a path to get Hughes from Minny?

Nemec contract ask was near the 9 million mark. They don’t have the space to fit him and on the right side you have pesce,Hamilton and kovacevic. Not to mention he hasn’t progressed how everyone envisioned.

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

Nemec, Pospisil, and Honzek.

 

[DFF]

Simon Nemec is a good second-pair defenseman right now, although one with defensive kinks still to iron-out, with a slight shot at being a first-pairing defenseman.

Parekh is a prospect with potential to be a first-pair defenseman, though he has admittedly proven nothing in the NHL so far.

And Landon Dupont likely won't be drafted by the Flames.

So yeah, this idea of Calgary having three top-pairing RHD sometime soon is quite fanciful (though I could possibly see 2).

Aside from that, I actually think this trade helps Calgary in the short term as it will allow them to give more ice to Nemec than he was getting in New Jersey, and potentially give them enough depth and flexibility on defense to possibly trade Zach Whitecloud this season.

New Jersey, on the other hand, get a much-needed high draft pick back that they can then use however they want, either through trade or to get a high-end prospect back in their pipeline.

You usually dont get a high end prospect at the bottom of the 1st, these are picks that get thrown around at the TDL for up coming UFA

 

[Voight]

Devils loading up for Hellebuyck

They can definitely offer more than Florida. They really need Hellebucyk to have any chance at winning a cup with this group.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

That's like comparing apples to oranges. They are two completely different players. Slavin began his NHL career as a purely defensive player. At least Hanifin's comparison made some sense, since he started out in the NHL as an offensive defenseman.

Hanifin was never really considered an offensive defenseman. Always seen as more of a mobile 2 way defender.

However, Nemec's brief NHL career so far has shown that he has much more offensive potential

Except for the fact that Hanifin scored at a higher rate in a lower scoring era through his first 4 years in the league, and had already broken the 30 point plateau twice as a 20 and 21 year old, something Nemec has yet to do.

Nemec may ultimately end up the more productive player (we haven't seen that yet), but his offense comes at the expense of his defensive responsibilities, where he flies the zone early and is constantly making high risk pinches at the offensive blue line.

and much better on defense than the 22yo Hanifin was.

I know you're a Slovak homer, but take off the glasses. Hanifin was the significantly more steady, reliable defender compared to Nemec. It's not even remotely close. Nemec hardly even touches the puck to help his team break the puck out. He's near the bottom of the league in terms of retrievals and zone exits. And he's constantly putting his D partner in terrible situations, forced to defend multiple odd man rushes per game.

They are separated by at least 2 tiers in terms of talent. Mostly because Hanifin's skating is an order of magnitude better than Nemec's. One guy is the clear cut #1 5v5 defenseman on one of the best teams in hockey, while the other projects to be a top 4 D if things work out, a level he's still very far from if we're being honest.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Looks like a win-win trade. I'll be rooting for Nemec in CGY. Lots of dmen have to bounce around a bit before finding their groove.

 

[MVP Zacha]

Is this NJD signalling rebuild or just clearing a path to get Hughes from Minny?

I personally don't think it is either. They have a glut of defenseman right now and they are handcuffed by the amount of NMC/NTC that Fitzgerald handed out. It was also reported numerous times that Nemec wanted Luke Hughes money and there is no way they can afford that. Nemec, to me seems to be a kid that just needs time and good coaching to improve his game where it is deficient right now. If Calgary can do that, I think Nemec will be a fantastic player for them and I am really hoping that happens. He seems like a good kid and I am sad to see him go.

 

[RogerRoger]

Is this NJD signalling rebuild or just clearing a path to get Hughes from Minny?

It's Mehta capitalizing on an overvalued asset.

 

[skatefreak961]

NJ is an awful development team so unless they trade those 1sts, i dont love this trade for them

 

[Blackjack]

Is this NJD signalling rebuild or just clearing a path to get Hughes from Minny?

My hope as a Devils fan is that Sunny Mehta recognizes that NJ is further from real contention than conventional wisdom suggests. It's been apparent every time they play a true SC contender. I'm not sure what "rebuild" would mean in the context of their best skater in franchise history being 25 years old, but they need to undue a lot damage done by the previous GM, and need substantial improvements across the lineup.

I think Mehta has a lot of opportunity to "rebuild on the fly" because of roster pieces that have value but performed poorly on the ice last year, and Nemec was maybe the most obvious player that fit that mold. The last thing Tom Fitzgerald was trying to do before he got canned was trade Dougie Hamilton, the team's best defenseman. Sunny Mehta came in and (I'm inferring here) told Hamilton that the team wants to keep him, and instead traded the team's worst defenseman by results.

Regarding Quinn Hughes, my honest guess is that the Huhges brothers do want to play together as soon as possible, NJ and Minnesota are both considerations, and they have the luxury of seeing how the two teams do next season before making a final decision. That puts Mehta under a lot of pressure to prove he can turn the team around and make them a true contender in both the near and long term.

 

[Blackjack]

NJ is an awful development team so unless they trade those 1sts, i dont love this trade for them

It was the drafting, not the developing that was the issue.

 

[GaboriklessWild]

Hanifin was never really considered an offensive defenseman. Always seen as more of a mobile 2 way defender.

Except for the fact that Hanifin scored at a higher rate in a lower scoring era through his first 4 years in the league, and had already broken the 30 point plateau twice as a 20 and 21 year old, something Nemec has yet to do.

Nemec may ultimately end up the more productive player (we haven't seen that yet), but his offense comes at the expense of his defensive responsibilities, where he flies the zone early and is constantly making high risk pinches at the offensive blue line.

I know you're a Slovak homer, but take off the glasses. Hanifin was the significantly more steady, reliable defender compared to Nemec. It's not even remotely close. Nemec hardly even touches the puck to help his team break the puck out. He's near the bottom of the league in terms of retrievals and zone exits. And he's constantly putting his D partner in terrible situations, forced to defend multiple odd man rushes per game.

They are separated by at least 2 tiers in terms of talent. Mostly because Hanifin's skating is an order of magnitude better than Nemec's. One guy is the clear cut #1 5v5 defenseman on one of the best teams in hockey, while the other projects to be a top 4 D if things work out, a level he's still very far from if we're being honest.

Dude, I'm talking about 22yo Hanifin and his first three years in the NHL. He was clearly the sixth defenseman in Carolina. It wasn't until he was traded to Calgary that he started playing on the penalty kill. Last year, Nemec averaged the second-highest ice time among Devils' defenders in even-strength. For the first three years or so of his career, he played in every situation.

 

[Rebels57]

My hope as a Devils fan is that Sunny Mehta recognizes that NJ is further from real contention than conventional wisdom suggests. It's been apparent every time they play a true SC contender. I'm not sure what "rebuild" would mean in the context of their best skater in franchise history being 25 years old, but they need to undue a lot damage done by the previous GM, and need substantial improvements across the lineup.

I think Mehta has a lot of opportunity to "rebuild on the fly" because of roster pieces that have value but performed poorly on the ice last year, and Nemec was maybe the most obvious player that fit that mold. The last thing Tom Fitzgerald was trying to do before he got canned was trade Dougie Hamilton, the team's best defenseman. Sunny Mehta came in and (I'm inferring here) told Hamilton that the team wants to keep him, and instead traded the team's worst defenseman by results.

Regarding Quinn Hughes, my honest guess is that the Huhges brothers do want to play together as soon as possible, NJ and Minnesota are both considerations, and they have the luxury of seeing how the two teams do next season before making a final decision. That puts Mehta under a lot of pressure to prove he can turn the team around and make them a true contender in both the near and long term.

At this time, i'm not putting Hughes over Patrik Elias as Devils "best forward in franchise history."

 

[Blackjack]

At this time, i'm not putting Hughes over Patrik Elias as Devils "best forward in franchise history."

I’m about as big a Patrik Elias fan as you’ll find, and I don’t particularly like Jack Hughes. I’ve watched them both play many, many times. It’s not even close.

 

[Rebels57]

I’m about as big a Patrik Elias fan as you’ll find, and I don’t particularly like Jack Hughes. I’ve watched them both play many, many times. It’s not even close.

There are two ends on the ice. Elias excelled on both.