Celtics/NBA Celtics trade Grant Williams for draft picks as part of three-team deal

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Tatum was moving worse the longer the game went on. Most guys who twist their ankle and stay in the game have it happen way later where the adrenaline carries them to the end before they miss games, Tatum had to play on it for 48 minutes. If you want to say he was too inconsistent through the playoffs that's fair but i'm not blaming him for tonight, tonight is when your 2nd best player has to step up and he played even worse than the guy on a bum ankle
 
Look I trust that Stevens can find a great basketball mind. But like Stevens, Mazzulla seems to not have the soft skills for the job of managing NBA players.

But he is also suuuuper young. I feel like if you fire him, in five years after he grows on some other team you are gonna look like an asshole. But the Celtics window is now. Not the place to grow a coach.

The fourth “but” is… who do you hire instead? f***ing Doc? Lot more chokes from Doc than Mazzulla.
I think Mazzulla is terrible with a capital t. Hire Stotts or Williams or anyone....
 
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Tatum gets no pass from me. Ankle injury? Sit out. His shooting was way off, can’t blame his ankle. Tatum is just soft unfortunately
Come on this is a ridiculous take.

Let's see here, he hurts his ankle on the opening possession, sits out, Celtics get blown out. "TATUM IS A BUM, TATUM IS SOFT"

Hurts his ankle, cant plant and drive, cut for a step back which is his strength, stays in because he's their best player, has poor shooting night "TATUM IS SOFT"

His injury absolutely hindered his game.
 
Look I trust that Stevens can find a great basketball mind. But like Stevens, Mazzulla seems to not have the soft skills for the job of managing NBA players.

But he is also suuuuper young. I feel like if you fire him, in five years after he grows on some other team you are gonna look like an asshole. But the Celtics window is now. Not the place to grow a coach.

The fourth “but” is… who do you hire instead? f***ing Doc? Lot more chokes from Doc than Mazzulla.
You need an experienced head coach. Maybe keep Mazzulla as an assistant.

The fact that the C's got here after the whole Udoka thing at the very beginning of the season is a feat in itself.

I know I expected the team to fall apart after that and they waited until tonight to.
 
Title Town only applies to the Patriots and Red Sox. Those were the only two dominate teams. Bruins and Celtics got lucky with 1 title each but besides that they choked during that same time frame when the other 2 teams were winning.
Titletown worked perfect though because when the Celtics and Bruins won it just happened to be in between the Patriots & Red Sox droughts.
 
Brown for sure
Brown was bad tonight but this whole team collapsed on defense this entire series. Gift of a game 6 included. Teams consistently torch us bc we let them shoot rhythm threes and tonight/this playoffs was no different.

I want big changes and if brown is one of those- ok, as long as we get something good back but it’s not the biggest need. Smart reverting to stupid ball tonight a bunch was tough. Al refused to attack no matter what.

White and Rob- they have to stay no matter what. They and they alone consistently make winning plays.
 
Whether Tatum is seriously hurt or not is irrelevant to me. Even playing without him at all you shouldn't lose in this fashion. You shouldn't be non competitive from start to finish. They were NEVER in this game.
 
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Blowing this team up would be a major mistake.
Why? This core has shown since that first Kyrie year that they cannot close games, and cannot get over the hump.

How many shots do you realistically give Tatum, Brown, Smart trio before accepting it just isn't happening.

Brown is absolutely their most valuable trade asset after Tatum, and frankly with him being super max eligible, I'd move him as long as they can get comparable value back.
 
Come on this is a ridiculous take.

Let's see here, he hurts his ankle on the opening possession, sits out, Celtics get blown out. "TATUM IS A BUM, TATUM IS SOFT"

Hurts his ankle, cant plant and drive, cut for a step back which is his strength, stays in because he's their best player, has poor shooting night "TATUM IS SOFT"

His injury absolutely hindered his game.
Tatum had an extremely inconsistent playoffs - just like he did last year. Dog on brown for his performance the last two games but he had a much better start to this playoff run than JT. I hold Tatum to a different standard bc he is our 1A option unlike Brown - Tatum disappears a ton for a dude in that role
 
Minor tweaks around the edges, glad they didn’t roll over and get swept. Just gotta hope a young core can finally get over the hump. Elite young players can take a bit to get their first ring, as has been demonstrated in here time and time again. I’d consider moving Smart and getting a true PG somehow but that’s about it.


Saw this game 7 loss coming a mile away so it didn’t even hurt at all!
 
Have to think this was it for Horford which sucks
Yeah he looked really old by the end of the year.

He's not suited for a bench role with actual effective minutes, so unless they're cool with paying him 10 mil this upcoming year to register probably 50 DNPs, I'd trade his contract, knowing he'd get bought out, and reitre.
 
Tatum was moving worse the longer the game went on. Most guys who twist their ankle and stay in the game have it happen way later where the adrenaline carries them to the end before they miss games, Tatum had to play on it for 48 minutes. If you want to say he was too inconsistent through the playoffs that's fair but i'm not blaming him for tonight, tonight is when your 2nd best player has to step up and he played even worse than the guy on a bum ankle
If this was regular season, he probably misses multiple weeks after that injury IMO. His game is also all about agility and quick feet, there was no way he was gonna be able to be effective after that. I feel for the guy
 
Mazzulla showed growth in games 4-6 with how he was controlling the game whenever it looked like it was getting away from them but i thought he had a awful game tonight. Brogdon not even hitting the rim on his first 3 attempt and everyone knows he's injured but was kept out there for 7 straight minutes and lost his minutes by 15 points and i think Tatum's injury showed the huge flaws to his offense.


51% of their shots tonight were threes and as Tatum lost more of his ability to drive the longer the game went on there was no plays drawn up to get guys designed open looks running off of screens or anything. They were just chucking up bad 3 pointers where the defenders were in good position because there's not much else to the offensive system beyond having the ball in your best players hands and taking a lot of threes. It's like building a baseball lineup of 8 Joey Gallo's and one great all around hitter. The ceiling is sky high but the floor can be pretty low. They survived game 6 with bad shooting but it killed them tonight.
 
They've tried minor tweaks. Sixers and Bucks aren't going anywhere and they just hired new coaches. No guarantee you keep getting this far in playoffs. Hell, it was a regression from last year. Some tough decisions for Brad Stevens.
 
Why? This core has shown since that first Kyrie year that they cannot close games, and cannot get over the hump.

How many shots do you realistically give Tatum, Brown, Smart trio before accepting it just isn't happening.

Brown is absolutely their most valuable trade asset after Tatum, and frankly with him being super max eligible, I'd move him as long as they can get comparable value back.

Because Brown and Tatum are 25 and 26 and young players almost never win championships in the NBA
 
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