You’re underselling Hutson’s numbers. His points as a rookie d-man are eye-popping
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You’re underselling Hutson’s numbers. His points as a rookie d-man are eye-popping
Watching Bedard yesterday and comparing him to Celebrini, right now, in the NHL, there’s just no contest. I think they both had whatever games against each other but Celebrini makes an impact all over the ice, so even on a bad day he’s visible. Other than call the ref something terrible, Bedard did nothing.
Yea, is honestly be surprised if he doesn't win. 8 think Macklin has to outscore him by 10+
its odd, the east coast bias thing exists in most years but the east coast seems more enamoured with celebrini than hutson. theres also wolf to split the canada vote, and michkov would influence the vote as well.
I think a big thing is celebrini likely is ranked 2nd at lowest where the above 4 could be mix-matched.
betting odds still have him at -190, meaning heavy favourite right now
I think the fact he may not even win the rookie scoring title, let alone to a defenseman (regardless of games missed) almost makes it a forgone conclusion that one of the two playoff players (if they make it) will win.
At the end of the day stats count for 75% if it. 20% goes to the influence on the team’s overall improvement and 5% just on wow factor.
He might accumulate points but they are not from him driving play. Getting secondary assists is not as impressive. He also has infinitely better teammates and easier competition than Celebrini.
So while his numbers are eye popping I’m not impressed
I greatly prefer Macklin as a player, don’t get me wrong. I’m just won’t be surprised if Hutson wins it, because he’s hitting legendary territory for rookie point totals for a defenseman.
I think this is very real and could explain why the betting markets consider him the favorite. I could see Wolf or Hudson 3rd or 4th on some ballots but I find it hard for Celebrini to get any 4th place votes. He will likely be 1 or 2 in most ballots.
Just saw a clip of a 19 year old Crosby and… look, I hate to put such lofty heights on Mack, but if Crosby was wearing a Sharks jersey in that clip I would’ve sworn it was Celebrini.
Will be interesting to see where he is in puck battling, rushes, and those other secondary stats he was at or near the top of early in the year.
Pretty sure the puck battles one was just posted earlier last week, and he was still at the top of the pack of not only rookies but all of the nhl still.
Why the hell do we not have a game till Thursday?!
Because of MTL's playoff push, Hutson is in the best position to continue racking up points over the rest of the season, and thus bolster his case. Plus he'll get even more eyes on him as those games will be electric. Celebrini and the Sharks sit in contrast on both fronts, which really hurts his case and is a shame.
If Celebrini is going to win, he's going to have to out produce Hutson AND voters are going to have to watch the games to see everything that doesnt end up on the scoresheet. Hutson gets/will get that benefit
If Celebrini is going to win, he's going to have to out produce Hutson AND voters are going to have to watch the games to see everything that doesnt end up on the scoresheet. Hutson gets/will get that benefit
Then again at least half Hutson's points aren't particularly impressive. They are like, decent plays on the PP that one of their shooters buries or sends cross-crease. The team is clicking.
Celebrini on the other hand has to do all the work and is key to almost all the goals he gets points on.
There was some analysis that says players on bad teams have inflated puck battle numbers because they are more likely to have to battle for the puck whereas on straight up better teams that drive play, there are fewer puck battles to get into.
I really think the fact he's 18 and 2 years younger should mean a hell of a lot. That's just me.
That;s why im saying people will need to watch the games, because points, even if they aren't all impressively earned, will get the shine
They had to squeeze in two more back to backs before the end of the season. We have a weird Sunday-Thursday gap next week too.
I kinda doubt will is on anyone's radar and if they watch him they will not notice he is anything special compared to Celebrini.
