Celebrini for Calder

[LadyStanley]

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[The411]

Celebrini's zone entry ability feels like a cheat code. And my god is it something this Sharks team desperately needed.

It’s something the Sharks of the mid 2000s-mid 2010s could have used.

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

It’s something the Sharks of the mid 2000s-mid 2010s could have used.

Not just the Sharks, any team at any time could have used. The Sharks are lucky, Very lucky. Sharks Fans you should come out to the Tank and watch him in person. It's sad to see the Tank not full because people are waiting for the Sharks to be in the playoff. By that time, the Sharks had been sold and moved to another city.

 

[67 others]

It’s something the Sharks of the mid 2000s-mid 2010s could have used.

Dan Boyle was pretty good with zone entries

 

[CanadienShark]

It’s something the Sharks of the mid 2000s-mid 2010s could have used.

Remember when we got Gomez and it was basically the only thing he could do, but was really good at?

 

[YUPPY 2 7 10 11]

Remember when we got Gomez and it was basically the only thing he could do, but was really good at?

Brain Campbell wasn't bad either remember him 2007-2008 season? Spin-o-rama scored on Carey Price Montreal?

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Your move, Matvei

 

[anthonyyy]

Remember when we got Gomez and it was basically the only thing he could do, but was really good at?

I was gonna joke that no one remembers we had Scott Gomez?! (it is true, he had that skill and that skill only)

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[S1N4TR4]

 

[weastern bias]

A little premature on that one, lol, that's a stat that CAN go backwards, maybe revisit that one later

 

[S1N4TR4]

A little premature on that one, lol, that's a stat that CAN go backwards, maybe revisit that one later

nothing’s premature. it’s a fact

 

[weastern bias]

nothing’s premature. it’s a fact

It's a fact that he has a better percentage through 15 games playing a weak strength of schedule compared to other rookies' full season of work, yes, quite premature

 

[hohosaregood]

It's a fact that he has a better percentage through 15 games playing a weak strength of schedule compared to other rookies' full season of work, yes, quite premature

does FO percentage correlate with strength of schedule?

 

[Hodge]

It's a fact that he has a better percentage through 15 games playing a weak strength of schedule compared to other rookies' full season of work, yes, quite premature

His performance over 200+ faceoffs already establishes him as well ahead of the fraudulent wingers masquerading as centers like Bedard, Hughes and RNH at the same age.

 

[weastern bias]

does FO percentage correlate with strength of schedule?

It does when you barely play any games against elite centermen

He's played Hischier, Crosby/Malkin, and Kopitar, in his entire career he's only really faced off against 4 elite Cs and it happened in the span of 3 games, 1/5 of his entire career to date, in those games he had a 22%, 41%, and 40%, his average will likely come down as he faces more high level centers

His performance over 200+ faceoffs already establishes him as well ahead of the fraudulent wingers masquerading as centers like Bedard, Hughes and RNH at the same age.

I'm not even saying he's bad, I'm just saying that holding up his fo% after 15 games as a comparable against other rookie Cs full season percentages is disingenuous and premature

 

[hohosaregood]

It does when you barely play any games against elite centermen

He's played Hischier, Crosby/Malkin, and Kopitar, in his entire career he's only really faced off against 4 elite Cs and it happened in the span of 3 games, 1/5 of his entire career to date, in those games he had a 22%, 41%, and 40%, his average will likely come down as he faces more high level centers


I'm not even saying he's bad, I'm just saying that holding up his fo% after 15 games as a comparable against other rookie Cs full season percentages is disingenuous and premature

Yea but it's not like elite centers like MacKinnon or McDavid have particularly good face off numbers most of the time. I agree it's a small sample size to judge anything by but attributing his "success" so far to playing weaker competition seems to be misplaced.

 

[Celly4Celebrini]

hes now the betting favourite at +110 vs Matvei at +120

i put a few bucks on him at +500

 

[Star Platinum]

It does when you barely play any games against elite centermen

He's played Hischier, Crosby/Malkin, and Kopitar, in his entire career he's only really faced off against 4 elite Cs and it happened in the span of 3 games, 1/5 of his entire career to date, in those games he had a 22%, 41%, and 40%, his average will likely come down as he faces more high level centers


I'm not even saying he's bad, I'm just saying that holding up his fo% after 15 games as a comparable against other rookie Cs full season percentages is disingenuous and premature

Not that I'm going to do the research, but I've never thought that faceoff percentage was all that important a stat except situationally. I suspect there are many centers that were considered elite that were well below 50% on faceoffs for their career. To throw out a few examples, neither Lemieux or Gretzky were elite at faceoffs, but I think we can all agree they were elite centers.

 

[weastern bias]

Yea but it's not like elite centers like MacKinnon or McDavid have particularly good face off numbers most of the time. I agree it's a small sample size to judge anything by but attributing his "success" so far to playing weaker competition seems to be misplaced.

That's why I didn't include Hughes on the list, just elite centers who are good on the draw

He hasn't faced Barkov, Matthews/Tavares, Eichel/Hertl, Point/Cirelli, Draisaitl when he plays C, ect.

It's just way too early to take a victory lap on this, we don't need to exaggerate how good Celebrini is, there's plenty enough to laude without this kind of reach

 

[Hodge]

That's why I didn't include Hughes on the list, just elite centers who are good on the draw

He hasn't faced Barkov, Matthews/Tavares, Eichel/Hertl, Point/Cirelli, Draisaitl when he plays C, ect.

It's just way too early to take a victory lap on this, we don't need to exaggerate how good Celebrini is, there's plenty enough to laude without this kind of reach

It's not a reach it's his actual statistics. Enough with your meaningless negative drivel. It's going to age about as well as your prediction that there's no way Celebrini beats out Michkov, Stankoven and Lane Hutson (lmao) for the Calder.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

It's not a reach it's his actual statistics. Enough with your meaningless negative drivel. It's going to age about as well as your prediction that there's no way Celebrini beats out Michkov, Stankoven and Lane Hutson (lmao) for the Calder.

Pot! Kettle! Black!

 

[Hodge]

Pot! Kettle! Black!

I'm negative towards deserving targets. This guy came into a Celebrini for Calder thread on the Sharks board to downplay Celebrini's achievements. Absurd. Take that energy to the Bitchkov love fest on the main boards.