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The Jackets have more than enough NHL-caliber defensemen already on hand as is - they don't need to make a trade for one.
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Confirmed with Link: CBJ Sign Dubinsky to 6 Year Extension
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The Jackets have more than enough NHL-caliber defensemen already on hand as is - they don't need to make a trade for one.
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Dubinsky's extension being finalized was what was holding up LeBron coming back to Cleveland - Eklund E5.
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Brandon Dubinsky signs a six-year, $35.1-million deal with Columbus – a contract @Proteautype says is an overpayment: http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/n...randon-dubinsky-is-a-significant-overpayment/
typically like Proteau, but I feel his arguement is really short sighted when most of the core is locked up long term already...
Brandon Dubinsky signs a six-year, $35.1-million deal with Columbus – a contract @Proteautype says is an overpayment: http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/n...randon-dubinsky-is-a-significant-overpayment/
typically like Proteau, but I feel his arguement is really short sighted when most of the core is locked up long term already...
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It does almost nothing to cause a long term cap issue. He wasn't going to sign for less than 5 mill at best so its 800k over that. As the cap rises it becomes less significant. If it is an issue, just cut 100k or so from 7 or 8 guys down the road.
I have played around with the cap looking out for the next 7 seasons or so. Assuming reasonable signings which so far I haven't been too far off on, reasonable bridge deals for the prospects and assuming that if a signed vet is traded, his replacement gets the same $, we don't appear to have a potential problem for 4 or 5 seasons and that I believe is only a one year issue because HartnelL is done that year.
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I'm sure Richards and Jarmo are on the same page, but Jarmo doesn't really have a say in if they have a captain or not, that's up to the coach.
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5.8 for a non 20 goal scoring second line forward isn't exactly a good contract. We're obviously over-paying a bit for intangibles.
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this is true
the key will be prospect development that allows Wennberg to centre the 2nd line and provide some goals, while Dubi centres the 3rd and shuts down the other teams top line.
5.8 is a lot of money, (but it's not my money so I am glad he is signed)
the key will be prospect development that allows Wennberg to centre the 2nd line and provide some goals, while Dubi centres the 3rd and shuts down the other teams top line.
5.8 is a lot of money, (but it's not my money so I am glad he is signed)
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i agree with you here, not necc the same narrative, but I'm happier about Dubi at 5.8 than I would be with Callahan at 5.8 or Dave Bolland at 5.5
Wennberg has nothing, NOTHING to do with any of this.
We were a playoff team without Wennberg last year. We can be a playoff team again without him. The key to Dubie's deal is NOT prospect development - this is a very, very fair contract for Dubinsky to forgo UFA, commit to the team long term, and bring his style of play and leadership to the team, as well as his point production.
I am really liking the way Jarmo is building this team. Hopefully, he can get some more of the core signed long-term this offseason.
Columbus had to lock Dubi up. He has become a leader on this team. When you look at Callahan, Clarkson, Bolland deals..Dubinsky contract is fair. Dubinsky is a better player than those 3 right now.
cannot stand when people ***** about being "overpaid" when a team is not up against the cap and when players mean different things to different teams.. Dubinsky for 7 more years is a great great thing at whatever hit you can afford.
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those are centers who will be in the system for a while now.. just awesome
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those are centers who will be in the system for a while now.. just awesome
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This. Tangibles, intangibles. Whatever. Keeps Dubi and keeps him fairly compensated. I don't feel like other things are needed to justify the deal.
Jive Pawnbroker
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I've never owned a jersey with a player's name on the back but I just might invest in one now. I am so happy Duby's a Jacket for the long term.
EspenK
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So sorry that people look at contracts analytically and that ruins your day (well, not really).
I'm glad he signed the extension, regardless of if it gives me pause or not.
Yes, it ruins my day when people don't share the same perspective I do ...... no need for your snide comment.
All I was saying is it's obnoxious TO ME when people who are not paying a player what they deem to be "extra" money complain that someone is "overpaid". If they aren't up against the cap and they want to give a player X amount of dollars because they think he is worth it for whatever reason(s) then what's the point in comparing it to other players and other situations and saying it's too much money?
I got your point. Certainly didn't need the 'to me" in all caps, there was nothing to suggest otherwise. Perhaps others get annoyed when they are looked down upon by looking at a situation and giving what they believe to be an honest assessment of the deal as a whole - taking their feelings of the player out of the equation?
This was not a particularly good deal and could influence other deals down the road, even more-so since we aren't likely to be a cap team.
You can love the player but not their contract. You should be able to do that without ridicule.
