Line Combos: CBJ Roster Discussion/Line Combos/Injury Report

[punk_o_holic]

While I think this is a playoff team, there is no way they should be buyers for a big piece.

For a rental, I agree but if it's for a long term piece, why not.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[MoeBartoli]

The (only) silver lining with his injury is that we get to see how Fantilli does with two really good wingers

 

[MoeBartoli]

Maybe the club was brutally honest with him and said that they will continue to bring up Jet to be the goalie when Elvis needs a break and that if Tarasov hopes to play he needs to accept the assignment with the expectation that it will help him and the club in the future

Or make it clear there’s no worry about him clearing waivers.

 

[Doggy]

Well, didn't see the game but Tarasov's numbers were not good tonight stopping just 25 of 30. Ouch!

 

[Napoli]

Hearing Waddell allude to wanting to make a hockey trade with regards to Provorov in the event of a playoff race in his interviews with Marek and Scheig got me thinking.

There have previously been talks of Provorov to Utah. If Utah too want to push for the playoffs, would a deal based around Provorov for Kesselring be at all likely? Utah have Durzi and Marino on the right-hand side that should be back soon as well as Lamoureux coming up. If they could add and re-sign Provorov, that would strengthen their left-hand side significantly, while Columbus get a young up-and-coming RHD to play in the top 4 moving forward.

I suppose Utah don't really need to rush anything and, since Kesselring is cheap, can keep him on the third pair or as a 7D. But that's a trade that would intrigue me.

Kesselring would be amazing but there's no way Utah trades, he's turned into an incredible young dman.

Id seriously kick the tires on Durzi in the offseason but that's unlikely too as he just signed a deal there.

I wonder what the Islanders would want for Dobson.

 

[CBJ goalie]

Well, didn't see the game but Tarasov's numbers were not good tonight stopping just 25 of 30. Ouch!

Yikes, not good.

I'm telling you (not just you Doggy) for this season we just need an experienced back up that can fill in, and let Merzlikins rest up.
And that guy is Jack Campbell.
He'd be an easy get, and would fill in perfectly in that role.
Let Jet get more playing time, and help Cleveland.
Next season, Jet takes the back up role.

 

[majormajor]

Kesselring would be amazing but there's no way Utah trades, he's turned into an incredible young dman.

Id seriously kick the tires on Durzi in the offseason but that's unlikely too as he just signed a deal there.

I wonder what the Islanders would want for Dobson.

Durzi is the kind of offensive D that we don't seem to have the minutes available for. And I hear much the same about Dobson, that he's the offensive guy and not so reliable defensively.

 

[Cowumbus]

If only we didn’t panic with Jiricek and could have used him as a trade piece.

People throwing Brindley’s name around as an add-in on trades have me punching air rn

 

[majormajor]

If only we didn’t panic with Jiricek and could have used him as a trade piece.

Jiricek at this point is more of a niche product, not a general commodity we could have spent at the market when we wanted something.

 

[Napoli]

Durzi is the kind of offensive D that we don't seem to have the minutes available for. And I hear much the same about Dobson, that he's the offensive guy and not so reliable defensively.

Durzi would have been great if we didnt sign Severson. Dobson has great analytics and would be another top dman who could help out Z. He'd excel in Evason's system but also would cost a lot.

Andersson would also be a great fit but cost a lot. A good stay at home guy who could give us more stability like Lauzon or Pelech could probably he had much cheaper.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I think the general assessment is that we need one guy to pair with an existing guy to make the d pairs work right.

Let’s assume we retiring Fabbro so that solves the pair with Werenski.

We need a steady vet to man then second pair with Mateychuk and we need a reliable stay-home guy on the third pair with Severson.

Roster still includes Gudbranson and Christiansen, and then Hunt I assume. Harris and JJ are gone Id expect.

What are the priorities? Or do you prioritize based on what you think you can accomplish?

 

[DankoCBJ]

One idea for next years defence:

Sign a good veteran LD like Olli Määttä who plays well defensively and takes a main PK role here maybe with Gudbranson. And also keep Fabbro, obviously.

2025-26

First pair: Werenski - Fabbro

And the other pairs you can flip either way Määttä-Severson and Mateychuk-Gudbranson or if it works Mateychuk-Severson and Määttä-Gudbranson.

And there is also option to play like Määttä-Mateychuk if they want to sit Severson yet again.

Hunt or Christiansen is the 7th defenceman.

This is Olli Määttä:



I know that this doesnt solve who playes with Mateychuk long term, but we are kind of stuck with Severson so one thing at a time.

 

[tunnelvision]

Let’s assume we retiring Fabbro so that solves the pair with Werenski.

We need a steady vet to man then second pair with Mateychuk and we need a reliable stay-home guy on the third pair with Severson.

I think I'd feel quite satisfied going into next year if Waddell managed to fill only one of the two roster spots with a right type of defensive dman. That and and better goaltending should make a difference in goals against. Acquiring just one veteran D would be less risky cap-wise, giving them flexibility to do changes if some of the pairs or individuals don't seem to work out eventually. It would also allow Hunt/Svozil/whoever to make the jump from AHL to NHL if any of them appear to be NHL-ready.

There could be at least two good ways imo to construct the bottom-4 D for next season:

#1 (this may include buying out or trading Gudbranson):

Mateychuk - Veteran RD
Christiansen/Hunt/Svozil - Severson

#2:

Veteran LD - Severson
Mateychuk - Gudbranson

 

[CBJx614]

If only we didn’t panic with Jiricek and could have used him as a trade piece.

People throwing Brindley’s name around as an add-in on trades have me punching air rn

Meh, I think we got a pretty good return for him. Hunt has some potential to be that solid two way guy that we need. If we end up dumping Provorov I could see him stealing a spot out of camp. Gudbranson will be back next season as well which should add some grit. I still think we need another body or two for injuries. As JJ should not be on this roster next season.


But I agree, I have absolutely 0 interest in trading Brindley or LDBB. And certainly no interest in trading Lindstrom.



Any chance Ekblad or Gavrikov hits the market? If so I go after both assuming we only get one. Ekblad wouldn't be likely to come here but he plays #1 PK minutes in Florida and the could definitely eat minutes here (we can't always put it all on Z)

Maybe Gavrikov comes back with all the Russians and new FO? Doubtful, but it would be nice.

 

[cslebn]

For those discussing Kesselring, ask do you want a hybrid Severson - Boqvist? Because that's what he is. He drives me nuts every game and he belongs on the third pair if/ when we get Marino and Durzi back in Utah.

He has a better shot and takes it to the net well but gawd the turnovers in the slot or behind our own net are awful. Third pair is where he belongs after coming into the season as the expected 7th man.

That Utah D corps has been so ravaged that Maatta is playing top pair (and is a godsend) and Cole (who is cooked) is second pair. Guys like Kolychonuk have no business in the NHL or are bottom pair like Valamaki

 

[SimpleJack]

Wow....you guys have so much young talent. I'm so curious about this roster/its potential. Just now starting to find out about some of these players and realizing just how talented your team is and how bright the future looks. I think this franchise deserves a nice stretch of championship caliber hockey, maybe a Cup run or 2. I just have so many questions like where do all these players fit when everyone is healthy and just how serious are the chances of adding someone like EP? How good can this team become? Very exciting stuff as a neutral fan, and I can't ever remember thinking this about the Blue Jackets before. One of the most entertaining teams to watch league wide. Fun times ahead for your fans. Lots of young, high end talent all coming together led by the beast Werenski having a career year.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[SteelCityCannon]

I think I'd feel quite satisfied going into next year if Waddell managed to fill only one of the two roster spots with a right type of defensive dman. That and and better goaltending should make a difference in goals against. Acquiring just one veteran D would be less risky cap-wise, giving them flexibility to do changes if some of the pairs or individuals don't seem to work out eventually. It would also allow Hunt/Svozil/whoever to make the jump from AHL to NHL if any of them appear to be NHL-ready.

There could be at least two good ways imo to construct the bottom-4 D for next season:

#1 (this may include buying out or trading Gudbranson):

Mateychuk - Veteran RD
Christiansen/Hunt/Svozil - Severson

#2:

Veteran LD - Severson
Mateychuk - Gudbranson

I actually think Guddy would be the perfect partner for Mateychuk short term. Only problem is that means one of Gundbranson or Severson would be 2nd pair.

 

[Napoli]

For those discussing Kesselring, ask do you want a hybrid Severson - Boqvist? Because that's what he is. He drives me nuts every game and he belongs on the third pair if/ when we get Marino and Durzi back in Utah.

He has a better shot and takes it to the net well but gawd the turnovers in the slot or behind our own net are awful. Third pair is where he belongs after coming into the season as the expected 7th man.

That Utah D corps has been so ravaged that Maatta is playing top pair (and is a godsend) and Cole (who is cooked) is second pair. Guys like Kolychonuk have no business in the NHL or are bottom pair like Valamaki

Analytically and eye test wise he's miles better defensively than both those players. This is also his breakout year, we're not talking about a multi year veteran. He'd be a serious welcome addition to this team, not that I imagine Utah would ever trade him.

 

[tunnelvision]

I actually think Guddy would be the perfect partner for Mateychuk short term. Only problem is that means one of Gundbranson or Severson would be 2nd pair.

I have doubts about their ability to do controlled exits vs aggressive forechecks this year but as long as Mateychuk is up with CBJ it's certainly worth trying it out. When was Gud supposed to come back again?

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

One idea for next years defence:

Sign a good veteran LD like Olli Määttä who plays well defensively and takes a main PK role here maybe with Gudbranson. And also keep Fabbro, obviously.

2025-26

First pair: Werenski - Fabbro

And the other pairs you can flip either way Määttä-Severson and Mateychuk-Gudbranson or if it works Mateychuk-Severson and Määttä-Gudbranson.

And there is also option to play like Määttä-Mateychuk if they want to sit Severson yet again.

Hunt or Christiansen is the 7th defenceman.

This is Olli Määttä:



I know that this doesnt solve who playes with Mateychuk long term, but we are kind of stuck with Severson so one thing at a time.

Lacking foot speed is where it lost me.

 

[LJ7]

Was typing a response to this in the LDBB thread but it featured too many non LDBB details so I will put it here:

Looks to me like Luca has earned the right to stay, not sure who that bumps where but I'd much rather have LDBB centering KJ with Sillinger Centering Fantilli on the third line or maybe put LDBB on the wing when Monahan gets back. Good problem to have.

I agree, definitely would have liked to see KJ, LDBB, and JVR together for longer. With how often we break pucks out with passes up the wall I prefer LDBB at center in this system so I am glad he is at least in the middle, but swapping Cole and LDBB would make the middle six look more harmonious in my opinion.

When Monahan and Chinakhov are back I would like to see:

Voronkov-Monahan-Marchenko: They just play well together, three players seemingly made for one another with their close supportive plays in the zone

Johnson-Del Bel Belluz-Van Riemsdyk: Gives some stable yet smart players to KJ, guys who can play off of him comfortably

Sillinger-Fantilli-Chinakhov: Fantilli is turning a corner lately with center play lately, and if Sillinger and him are on a line I prefer Fantilli in the middle since Sillinger is a little stouter, and Fantilli is faster. I would like for them to use Sillinger on the wing more in this system because of his strength, wingers can afford to be a bit slower footed if they are jacked enough under Evason.

 

[majormajor]

Sillinger-Fantilli-Chinakhov: Fantilli is turning a corner lately with center play lately, and if Sillinger and him are on a line I prefer Fantilli in the middle since Sillinger is a little stouter, and Fantilli is faster. I would like for them to use Sillinger on the wing more in this system because of his strength, wingers can afford to be a bit slower footed if they are jacked enough under Evason.

I'm honestly not sure if Fantilli is any better at center lately. It's wild to see how much less offensive zone time the top line gets with him at center. Roughly half as much!

 

[Doggy]

Several thoughts...

• I am surprised it was just two games...one weekend. But Tarasov might have only agreed to a one weekend assignment.
• It blows their "conditioning assignment" avoiding waivers so they better get him into some games sooner rather than later.
• Curious move after Jet plays one of the best games the CBJ have seen all season.