Prospect Info: CBJ Prospect Thread XI

[SergeConstantin74]

Malatesta with 2 goals and 1 assist in a 6-2 win. He was named first star.

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[Cowumbus]

Foudy


China

 

[SavesEmNot]

Another goalie left bewildered by Chinakhov.

If Malatesta's shot is "violent", Chinakhov's is R-rated. What he does to goalies is that bad.

 

[Cowumbus]

SKA St Pete 4th leading scorer Kirill Marchenko scratched for today’s game (they lost). Seems to be getting the Podkolzin treatment…

“You’re going to the NHL? Why should we play/develop you?”

 

[CBJWerenski8]

SKA St Pete 4th leading scorer Kirill Marchenko scratched for today’s game (they lost). Seems to be getting the Podkolzin treatment…

“You’re going to the NHL? Why should we play/develop you?”

The only positive I guess that I can see is it will push him to us even further and maybe he’d be open to starting in Cleveland if necessary.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Any chance Angle gets games this season?

 

[majormajor]

Any chance Angle gets games this season?

There's a good chance that there will be a cluster of injuries at some point and he'll get a first look. I don't think Angle's debut is planned though. Even if the club sells off a couple players at the deadline, they'll still have more than enough if healthy.

 

[pled]

Thome new ncaa team is awful but whatever.
Boyd pick was awful.
Voronkov seem to try but nothing works.
Knazko sis till stuck in junior.
Holm having a hard time too.
Hjorth got loaned to Second Fin league and is doing well but that's not super high level. better than junior I guess.
at least Johnson and Marchenko are doing alright.
Richard is exceeding expectation I think, the coach seem to use him well.

 

[tunnelvision]

Svozil seems to be struggling as well with his team, Regina has now lost 5 in a row. He's -7 through 7 games. Based on highlights he's made surprisingly many bad reads on plays that have lead to goals against. Watch the highlights below, pay attention to #11 in white and then think this is the same Traverse city standout who played for CBJ blueline:

Highlights Oct. 16: Pats 3 ICE 6 – Regina Pats

 

[majormajor]

Thome new ncaa team is awful but whatever.
Boyd pick was awful.
Voronkov seem to try but nothing works.
Knazko sis till stuck in junior.
Holm having a hard time too.
Hjorth got loaned to Second Fin league and is doing well but that's not super high level. better than junior I guess.
at least Johnson and Marchenko are doing alright.
Richard is exceeding expectation I think, the coach seem to use him well.

This is all my general sense too, except I don't see any reason to care about Holm (or Svozil's) +/-. You play on a bad junior team it is going to happen.

Makarov actually is nearing his MHL point totals from last year's 50 game season, and he's only played 6 games. That is a surprising step.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

What if Chicago continues to suck this hard and their pick is #2 oa? (The pick is top 2 protected)

Do they:
A) Claim their #2 pick thinking the year was a fluke, and therefore risk losing a franchise player in Bedard/Michkov next year.
B) Give the #2 pick to Jarmo and prepare to tank just as hard next year.

I'm thinking option A) because Bowman's ego couldn't take option B), but it's a organizational suicide if they are truly this bad and lose Berard or Michkov to us in 23.

 

[Monk]

What if Chicago continues to suck this hard and their pick is #2 oa?

Do they:
A) Claim their #2 pick thinking the year was a fluke, and therefore risk losing a franchise player in Bedard/Michkov next year.
B) Give the #2 pick to Jarmo and prepare to tank just as hard next year.

I'm thinking option A) because Bowman's ego couldn't take option B), but it's a organizational suicide if they are truly this bad and lose Berard or Michkov to us in 23.

Do they get to choose?

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Do they get to choose?

I'd assume so based on a similar situation few years back. Ottawa had an option to pick at #4 in 2018 or give their 2019 pick to Avs. Ended up taking Tkachuk over Byram

 

[stevo61]

I'd assume so based on a similar situation few years back. Ottawa had an option to pick at #4 in 2018 or give their 2019 pick to Avs. Ended up taking Tkachuk over Byram

I think as long as the pick is not top 2 Columbus gets it this year

 

[Jovavic]

If the Hawks are in that position then it would be a different person making that decision as Bowman would (should) be fired, especially considering this past off-season and "reloading" to take advantage of the closing Kane/Toews Cup window.

 

[Doggy]

How is this even a discussion, if the Blackhawks pick #2 they use the pick (unless they are trading it for a boat load). No way they give it to the CBJ…that would be moronic.

 

[majormajor]

If the Chicago pick comes in at #3, #4, or any number other than #1 or #2, then it's Columbus' pick. There is no choice.

 

[Monk]

If the Chicago pick comes in at #3, #4, or any number other than #1 or #2, then it's Columbus' pick. There is no choice.

The question was if they got 1 or 2 if they could choose to give it to CBJ instead of keeping it. Don't care if they would or not (don't think they would) but I was curious if they actually could make that choice.

 

[stevo61]

The question was if they got 1 or 2 if they could choose to give it to CBJ instead of keeping it. Don't care if they would or not (don't think they would) but I was curious if they actually could make that choice.

The fact they made the top 2 condition part of the deal should answer both questions

 

[DarkandStormy]

The question was if they got 1 or 2 if they could choose to give it to CBJ instead of keeping it. Don't care if they would or not (don't think they would) but I was curious if they actually could make that choice.

Jones traded to Blackhawks by Blue Jackets

If Chicago's first-round pick in 2022 is one of the top two selections, the Blue Jackets will receive the Blackhawks' first-round pick in 2023.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

I think as long as the pick is not top 2 Columbus gets it this year

Yes, it is a top 2 protected draft pick. I know that. But even if the pick is top 2, Hawks likely have the opportunity to waive the protection and give the pick. At least this was the case with the pick Ottawa gave away in 2018 for Duchene.

So the question was: If it is the #2 pick, do Chicago decide to waive the pick protection, so they don't potentially lose Michkov or Bedard in 2023 (Who are considered to be significantly better prospects than the ones available at #2oa 2022)

 

[Monk]

Jones traded to Blackhawks by Blue Jackets

So the Blackhawks and Jackets can't agree to effectively cancel it. Cool.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

So the Blackhawks and Jackets can't agree to effectively cancel it. Cool.

Yeah could very easily be so, but I wouldn't trust nhl article to get these kind of details right. We'll likely only find out for sure if it does become relevant around the lottery

 

[Doggy]

Yes, it is a top 2 protected draft pick. I know that. But even if the pick is top 2, Hawks likely have the opportunity to waive the protection and give the pick. At least this was the case with the pick Ottawa gave away in 2018 for Duchene.

So the question was: If it is the #2 pick, do Chicago decide to waive the pick protection, so they don't potentially lose Michkov or Bedard in 2023 (Who are considered to be significantly better prospects than the ones available at #2oa 2022)

Do you have any idea how incredibly bad a team would have to be to be in position to draft #2 overall two years in a row? Not to mention the luck needed in the lottery?

I am not a statistician but the odds have to be insanely low. No team is going to bypass a #2 overall pick in one draft in hopes of getting the following year’s #2 overall pick. For a GM that would be career suicide.

As bad as the Kings, Sabres, Sens and Wings have been the past two years, none were able to snag back to back top five picks these past two drafts. The Ducks and Wings were closest: Ducks were 3 & 6 and Wings were 4 & 6.

Yes the Rangers went 1 & 2 in back to back years a few years back but that was a crazy fluke considering the nutty lottery the league did the year of the pandemic-shortened bubble post-season. They had to win two lotteries that one year to jump from like 12 to 1. Not something any GM should be betting will happen to them.

In short...again...no way the 'Hawks pass the #2OA in 2022 to the CBJ in hopes of getting a top two pick in 2023.

edited for clarity of my thoughts

 

[Cowumbus]

Kent Johnson deflects one in vs #17 WMU