CBJ Prospect Thread III

[Sore Loser]

According to EliteProspects, Dano was drafted by Prince George in 2011. I don't know how long teams hold the rights for a player.

They can only carry (2) European players after the cutoff date, which I believe (correct me if someone knows better?) is October 15. As of right now, they hold the rights to three; last year the players they retained rights to were Ronalds Rosinskis (LAT) and Joonas Korpisalo. They selected two new players at the Euro draft last week. In retaining Rosinskis and Korpisalo, they gave up the rights to any other European player they had ... which would mean, with certainty, that Dano is no longer on their protected list. It looks unlikely that Korpisalo will ever report, so come October, they will probably drop his rights also.

What this means for Marko Dano is that he could play in the American Hockey League this year as a 19 year old, should he be so inclined.

 

[Sore Loser]

Nice run down of players SL. What I like most is the organization seems to be developing the depth of skilled players that you can withstand some disappointing misses at the top of the list and still have the talent behind it.

Off of this list, there are probably realistically 10-12 guys that could be regular NHL players. Some are long shots, some may never see NHL ice, but I really think that 10-12 of these guys see extended time in the NHL. Jarmo mentioned that if you can come away with three players from any draft that make your team, then that draft is a home run. I think from 2011 and 2012, we will see at least that many, and from 2013, I think we not only see 3-4 guys become NHL players, but potentially those 3-4 guys become core players. That's a damn good first draft, no matter how you look at it.

 

[candyman82]

They can only carry (2) European players after the cutoff date, which I believe (correct me if someone knows better?) is October 15. As of right now, they hold the rights to three; last year the players they retained rights to were Ronalds Rosinskis (LAT) and Joonas Korpisalo. They selected two new players at the Euro draft last week. In retaining Rosinskis and Korpisalo, they gave up the rights to any other European player they had ... which would mean, with certainty, that Dano is no longer on their protected list. It looks unlikely that Korpisalo will ever report, so come October, they will probably drop his rights also.

What this means for Marko Dano is that he could play in the American Hockey League this year as a 19 year old, should he be so inclined.

I think that they would still keep his rights. I was under the impression that a team could have more than two imports on their roster but could only play two in one game. Last year, the Quebec Remparts carried three imports but could only dress two per game.

 

[EspenK]

As I read the HF definition of a prospect Erixon and Prout are still considered prospects. Where would you slot them in SL's list? I guess we all will get to vote in the Prospect Poll but just curious now.

I'd slot them before the two goalies at 5 & 6 respectively given that both are probably in the NHL again this year, the goalies are still unproven in NA and hopefully the 4 guys above them will have more productive NHL careers.

 

[FOG Sports]

First visit to Columbus was for this years Development Camp Great city and awesome facility.
Had an opportunity to speak 1 on 1 with Jarmo and took it. Very down to earth and quite personable. CBJ fans are gonna love this team in another 3 or 4 years Lots of big skilled young guys coming along.

 

[Sore Loser]

I think that they would still keep his rights. I was under the impression that a team could have more than two imports on their roster but could only play two in one game. Last year, the Quebec Remparts carried three imports but could only dress two per game.

This may be the case, but I've simply never seen a team carry more than two guys after the cutoff date; they are usually in a big hurry to get below that limit.

As I read the HF definition of a prospect Erixon and Prout are still considered prospects. Where would you slot them in SL's list? I guess we all will get to vote in the Prospect Poll but just curious now.

I'd slot them before the two goalies at 5 & 6 respectively given that both are probably in the NHL again this year, the goalies are still unproven in NA and hopefully the 4 guys above them will have more productive NHL careers.

I would probably put Erixon at 5, just below Kerby Rychel, and Prout at 8, just behind Dansk and Forsberg, if it were me. I don't consider them prospects any longer though, as both look to be full-time NHL players from here on.

I think we've seen exactly the type of player Dalton Prout will be; a third line, physical, stay at home guy that puts in about 14-16 minutes a night. I don't see his value going up too much from where it is.

 

[FANonymous]

I think we've seen exactly the type of player Dalton Prout will be; a third line, physical, stay at home guy that puts in about 14-16 minutes a night. I don't see his value going up too much from where it is.

Surely all that sand and jampaper in his game could elevate him to the 2nd pairing someday!

 

[Sore Loser]

Surely all that sand and jampaper in his game could elevate him to the 2nd pairing someday!

I think he's a good #5 guy, nothing wrong with that. He's a guy that can play spot duty if someone gets hurt, but it's not a role I'd want him in long term. Every team needs guys like that, he'll keep the opposing players honest and make them work for their space.

 

[major major]

As I read the HF definition of a prospect Erixon and Prout are still considered prospects. Where would you slot them in SL's list? I guess we all will get to vote in the Prospect Poll but just curious now.

I'd slot them before the two goalies at 5 & 6 respectively given that both are probably in the NHL again this year, the goalies are still unproven in NA and hopefully the 4 guys above them will have more productive NHL careers.

I'd slot Erixon ahead of even Rychel. I just really like what I saw in Erixon's smarts. Prout is a valuable player for us, and I'm not ruling out second pair duty for him. It feels a bit arbitrary, but because his upside is lower I can't rank him higher than Murray, Jenner, Wennberg, Erixon, Rychel and Forsberg, and because we'd be lucky if Heatherington or Goloubef became as valuable as Prout we can't rank him lower than either of them.

murray
jenner
wennberg
erixon
rychel

forsberg
prout
heatherington
dano
goloubef

 

[FOG Sports]

Everyone seems to have nothing to say about Anderson.. The kid was the first forward CBJ took last draft, has a complete 200 foot game is a very good skater, not afraid to fight and doubled his points last season. Takes defence to win and he in my opinion is going to be a solid 3rd line power forward that will be a fan favourite with the Jackets just like he currently is with the London Knights. For those who only looked at his playoff points they don't realize he was assigned as a shut down guy and was playing on a wonky knee that others would have watched from the stands with.
As a coach he can play on my team any day...See him as a Boll type in a few seasons

 

[pete goegan]

Everyone seems to have nothing to say about Anderson.. The kid was the first forward CBJ took last draft, has a complete 200 foot game is a very good skater, not afraid to fight and doubled his points last season. Takes defence to win and he in my opinion is going to be a solid 3rd line power forward that will be a fan favourite with the Jackets just like he currently is with the London Knights. For those who only looked at his playoff points they don't realize he was assigned as a shut down guy and was playing on a wonky knee that others would have watched from the stands with.
As a coach he can play on my team any day...See him as a Boll type in a few seasons

I presume you've seen more of him in action than most of us, is his skill level comparable to Boll or might he provide a bit more offense?

 

[FOG Sports]

Having seen Boll play several times during his time at the same age with the Plymouth Whalers my opinion is Anderson has much more offensive upside than Jared
Just my opinion though.

A third year with the Hunters coaching in London and the experience of a 3rd straight Memorial Cup as the host team this year wont hurt his development either.
He's a quiet under the radar dependable and effective player.

 

[CBJx614]

Having seen Boll play several times during his time at the same age with the Plymouth Whalers my opinion is Anderson has much more offensive upside than Jared
Just my opinion though.

A third year with the Hunters coaching in London and the experience of a 3rd straight Memorial Cup as the host team this year wont hurt his development either.
He's a quiet under the radar dependable and effective player.

Like I said awhile ago, could be a Boone Jenner Pt 2. If he takes another step this season he could very well be ready to make an impact at the AHL level next season.

 

[Sore Loser]

Having seen Boll play several times during his time at the same age with the Plymouth Whalers my opinion is Anderson has much more offensive upside than Jared
Just my opinion though.

A third year with the Hunters coaching in London and the experience of a 3rd straight Memorial Cup as the host team this year wont hurt his development either.
He's a quiet under the radar dependable and effective player.

I've mentioned various times that Anderson is a good player. The problem he has is that, he hasn't established himself as doing anything above just being a little above average at everything. He has "good" size. He has "good" hands. He had a "good" year offensively. This upcoming season is the most important for Josh as he tries to make a name for himself ... is he an AHL 'tweener, or can he be an effective player in the NHL?

I like the kid, but I'm always left yearning for more.

 

[Brock]

http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2013/07/30-teams-in-30-days-columbus-blue.html

A review of the Jackets' OHL prospects (season review and future outlook).

 

[pete goegan]

Here's a link to a blog with the Traverse City Prospects tourney schedule:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTH/Sabres-To-Defend-Traverse-City-Crown/6/52842#.UeV0Jsu9KSM

 

[major major]

http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2013/07/30-teams-in-30-days-columbus-blue.html

A review of the Jackets' OHL prospects (season review and future outlook).

Thanks.

Dansk can play in the AHL/ECHL next year?? Really? If so, I'd love to get him out of Erie. I think we might come to regret letting him play there.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Thanks.

Dansk can play in the AHL/ECHL next year?? Really? If so, I'd love to get him out of Erie. I think we might come to regret letting him play there.

I dunno, at least he gets lot of training there with lots of shots per game. And gets to WJC on a good team to boost his confidence. And then possibly in AHL playoffs, if Erie suck.

 

[candyman82]

Thanks.

Dansk can play in the AHL/ECHL next year?? Really? If so, I'd love to get him out of Erie. I think we might come to regret letting him play there.

I think he can since he wasn't drafted out of the CHL

 

[Brock]

I think he can since he wasn't drafted out of the CHL

Correct.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

when are we voting on our top prospects as a board?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

when are we voting on our top prospects as a board?

You mean so we can have thread after thread where some posters tell the rest of the forum that isn't where they'd put player X? The selectively use the subsequent HF prospect ranking update to validate their position or bsh it for agreein with the voting? Oh, joy.

Samkow usually starts those late-July or early-August. Last year's first poll was posted July 30.

 

[blahblah]

You mean so we can have thread after thread where some posters tell the rest of the forum that isn't where they'd put player X? The selectively use the subsequent HF prospect ranking update to validate their position or bsh it for agreein with the voting? Oh, joy.

Samkow usually starts those late-July or early-August. Last year's first poll was posted July 30.

haha, DSL loves the opinion polls.

This years should be far more interesting for the top 5 and, I'll be honest, outside of just someone going way off the board I could see a lot of validity with the justification of 4 of 5 players getting voted in at the top spot. HF still has Cam and Erixon has prospects and if use their criteria they will be on the list.

After the top 5 or 6 this year, it will just get painful.

 

[EspenK]

haha, DSL loves the opinion polls.

This years should be far more interesting for the top 5 and, I'll be honest, outside of just someone going way off the board I could see a lot of validity with the justification of 4 of 5 players getting voted in at the top spot. HF still has Cam and Erixon has prospects and if use their criteria they will be on the list.

After the top 5 or 6 this year, it will just get painful.

I agree with 7-12 but I've got 13 nailed.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

haha, DSL loves the opinion polls.

This years should be far more interesting for the top 5 and, I'll be honest, outside of just someone going way off the board I could see a lot of validity with the justification of 4 of 5 players getting voted in at the top spot. HF still has Cam and Erixon has prospects and if use their criteria they will be on the list.

After the top 5 or 6 this year, it will just get painful.

I do love the opinion polls. The collectivist methodology is their appeal. What I loathe is the constant second-guessing. Getting a collective opinion is the point, people!