CBJ gets to 93/94 points and gets IN!
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cbjfaninmo
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The way we've skated the last 2 games, it doesn't look promising. We look beaten and battered. Several guys look to be playing injured. Maybe this little break will help and we can put up a string of wins, then recharge again at the AS break, but atm, we look flat out exhausted. We seem to have 1 good period in us a night.
They will probably bounce back this week and take 2 out of 3. That is how they always seem to do it, counter punch when everyone thinks they are done. Although, I agree, no realistic shot at playoffs.
SuperGenius
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Oh come on. Nothing that happens anytime soon is going to 'seal the deal'
Maybe the playoffs are unlikely, even impossible, but since they have to trot out there every night and play, why not root them on? You've been beating this drum in several posts now. I don't see why you're so anxious to declare the season 'over.'
Where did he say he was going to stop rooting them on? Judging by his username he's been a fan for a very long time. Just because some of us are in the "lets tank" camp doesn't mean we're not going to be supporting the team for the rest of the season. It is simply a hope that we don't barely miss the playoffs and end up worse than we already are right now.
JKinCLE
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I hate seeing my team lose. Period. Which is why I hope they at least win all the games left on my ticket plan. Those are the only times I realistically have to "see" them lose. I don't have cable and I work second shift.
I can't help but hope for a lottery pick at this point, barring another 10-1-1 month. Doubt the Jackets have the Cavaliers luck when it comes to the draft lottery, so a 9/10th place finish is not appealing.
That being said, I will NEVER be upset about a CBJ win.
I can't help but hope for a lottery pick at this point, barring another 10-1-1 month. Doubt the Jackets have the Cavaliers luck when it comes to the draft lottery, so a 9/10th place finish is not appealing.
That being said, I will NEVER be upset about a CBJ win.
SuperGenius
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We're all fans, and I know Espen is, has been, and always will be. I don't however, understand the enjoyment that seems to come from spreading around the gloom.
I disagree that 'barely missing the playoffs' makes the team 'worse than they already are now'. That makes absolutely no sense.
There's some kind of prevailing wisdom that high draft picks somehow make a team automatically better that I'll never understand. It's magic beans. They certainly can help, but nothing is guaranteed. Experience, on the other hand, is a tangible benefit - both good and bad.
EspenK
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If the Jackets lose all three in regulation, that makes the requirement 24-9-6 going down the stretch. And that is if 93 points makes it. Technically you're right the Jackets would still be alive but I'll take the under on them making it if that is the scenario that unfolds.
And I do root for them but I also try to put a bit of reality into my perspective. If we win all three then the task is 21-12-6 which obviously is more doable.
I just try to counter balance the guys who think every low draft pick is the next coming of Henrik Zetterberg or Pavel Datsyuk or every first three round pick is assured of stardom.
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Why? Someone has to pick 15th. Has every organization that picked 15th ended in ruin? Some teams seem to survive well enough picking in the late teens and early 20s for a couple decades (see Detroit).
I understand where Espen is coming from about being realistic, and I'm realistic too, but I could never support a team that doesn't fight to the end and do the best they can. If that's finishing a point out of the playoffs, so be it.
88 points could see us picking about 10th, if not 7th, but certainly not 15th. Its close to Brassard-Voracek-Filatov territory. Whether you interpret that to mean Art Ross or prolonged futility is up to you. I think unless you are picking top two, a winning legacy is better for the club long term.
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I agree with this. A furious charge to the end that sees us narrowly missing and picking 15th would be more agreeable to me than anything less, perhaps excepting picking top two.
Robert
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First time ever.... I say tank.... there's no way the CBJ make the playoffs with an improved Metro..... We need a tank thread..
We must lose more than Edmonton, Carolina and Buffalo..... not hard... just do it for the best draft in a decade.
We must lose more than Edmonton, Carolina and Buffalo..... not hard... just do it for the best draft in a decade.
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OK, then.
Richards to team: "Boys, we really are out of it. It's not going to happen this year. It's time to start playing like Jeff Carter did when he played here. Any player showing any effort in backchecking, or forechecking for that matter, will be fined and have his ice time limited."
"If we stink up the joint like we're capable of doing, then we've got a great chance of finishing in the bottom 6 and having a 7.5% chance of landing Connor McDavid. If we continue on our course, we're bound to finish 12th and only have a 2.5% chance of getting him. So, WE'LL HAVE 3 TIMES THE CHANCE OF GETTING THE GREAT SAVIOR....a ONE in FOURTEEN CHANCE....OF GETTING THE 17 YEAR OLD WHO WILL LIFT YOUR SORRY A$$E$ TO GREATNESS IF WE JUST STOP TRYING...NOW!!!"
Dubi, Foligno, Joey, JJ, Wiz and Bob all nod in agreement. Hartnell does handstands out of sheer joy.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795
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EspenK
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I think this winning legacy thing is overblown when it means that one bad season when you have been decimated by injuries will set the team back for years and require massive therapy. I do agree that losing for years isn't good and should be avoided at all costs.
And I think Lee's point was a generalization that the worst was we just miss and pick 15th.
Although I do wish people could be more specific in their posts or at least use a similie to help those of us who don't always get the point.
Double-Shift Lasse
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"Realistic" is bunk. It's code for "what I believe is going to happen" and "you're wrong". I'm not saying there aren't legit reasons to hold said position, but you know "realistic" is bunk when it's always juxtaposed against "optimistic." "Pessimistic" is the opposite of "optimistic".
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Crede777
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I disagree, Lee. Fielding a team which is competitive and on the upswing, despite missing the playoffs, engenders the proper culture and exposes the young guys to the proper environment.
Obviously I want to make the playoffs. Obviously I won't object to a top-3 pick. But winning has its benefits even if we fall short of the playoffs. That's less about approach, though, and more about how I think the players will react. I don't think (and hope it isn't) the kind of group of players who give up. I want them to continue to fight and think they will. That's to say that we all know where this season is headed (and hence why some are properly worried about finishing 1 spot out of the playoffs and getting the 15th pick). It's a huge hole to fill, one which most don't think the team will be able to, but we all know they're going to try. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Don't rush guys. Don't rush the young guys like Rychel, Dano, and even Wennberg before they're ready. Don't rush guys back from injury like Murray. But let the guys who ARE there keep fighting and understand that's what they're going to do.
In my limited opinion, I was expecting the playoffs this year. Injuries did that hope in. I now believe that the season will be a success if we simply don't give up or hamper the futures of any of our young players. If we get a top pick, great. If we make the playoffs, better. If we treat this season as a learning experience and chalk it up to injuries, I am fine with that too.
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EspenK
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FWIW, I agree. I mean the difference between picking 14th (corrected for nits) with 88 points (or whatever the number is) and picking 5th or 6th may only be less than 10 points. Last year Washington was the highest non-playoff team with 90 points. The team picking 5th had 79 pts. Does anyone really think 6 extra losses will scar this team for years to come?
Interestingly Florida finished with 66 points (second worse) and are contending for the playoffs. I am surprised that they have recovered from their trauma so quickly. Maybe Aaron Ekblad is helping them turn it around?
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Better goaltender with far more defensive-based approach plus few free agent signings might also help...
I don't get the thrill of picking top-5 prospects. Draft is much more interesting to follow from seventh or tenth pick on when it's already far more open field for your scouting staff to operate.
WannabeFinn
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Maybe the thrill comes from selecting a player with the greatest chance to become elite, but yes.. leaving your scouting staff to find gems like Bjorkstrand in the draft is pretty exciting too.
