DancingPanther
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Send them both to the gulag. One figuratively, and the other literally
Confirmed with Link: Carter Hart Officially Charged With One Count Of Sexual Assault (Per His Lawyers); Non-roster, salary cap info in OP
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Gregor Samsa
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For the first time ever the Flyers have a good goalie tandem and now possibly this…but it is just a sport after all and if Hart is guilty I hope he never plays for the Flyers again. The timing of everything doesn’t look good. Would the Flyers end his contact if it isn’t good?
bennysflyers16
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Flyers news will get buried a bit with the Eagles meeting.
flyerslducks
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Life of a flyers fan. We have suffered enough. I miss giroux, voracek.
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Even if he is one of the ones that turns himself in, it still needs to go to trial and he/they would need to be convicted. I would think they would just suspend him indefinitely pending the results of a trial. But who knows?
bennysflyers16
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Hart will be terminated, come back in a few years for a Flyers rival when we actually good and win the cup. The script is written.
On the practical side of this, aside from any morality, I think we are all thinking that this is going to seriously mess up a potential Hart trade. Just a couple of thoughts on that.
We don't know that the Flyers were going to be willing to move him before signing him to a new contract - this situation, whatever it is, means they almost surely will. That is a positive from a team-building standpoint, as the numbers in that hypothetical new contract wouldn't suit our timeline at all IMO.
We don't know what kind of value we could extract in a trade of Hart. Any value back in a trade is better than nothing - with the exception of the Giroux trade, where we received an abomination in addition to a first - so it sucks that his value is likely to tank if not disappear altogether. But we have plenty to deal and get back draft capital. So it's not great, but it's also not necessarily crippling.
Not trying to bury the lede on this story - just thinking about other sides of it.
We don't know that the Flyers were going to be willing to move him before signing him to a new contract - this situation, whatever it is, means they almost surely will. That is a positive from a team-building standpoint, as the numbers in that hypothetical new contract wouldn't suit our timeline at all IMO.
We don't know what kind of value we could extract in a trade of Hart. Any value back in a trade is better than nothing - with the exception of the Giroux trade, where we received an abomination in addition to a first - so it sucks that his value is likely to tank if not disappear altogether. But we have plenty to deal and get back draft capital. So it's not great, but it's also not necessarily crippling.
Not trying to bury the lede on this story - just thinking about other sides of it.
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bennysflyers16
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Terminating is contract without a guilty verdict would bring lawsuits in I imagine.
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Presser at 11 but it was scheduled a while ago. I doubt he talks about it unless Hart turns himself in this morning.
JojoTheWhale
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Scheduled to speak around the top of the hour, but I would assume they have competent legal counsel…
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I think this probably makes him untradeable unfortunately. If he is involved, the league will suspend him indefinitely and no one will want to touch him unless a trial clears his name.
ponder719
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Now, Jojo, I know you're not new here, why are you attempting to link the word "competent" to the Flyers so recklessly?
Hollywood Cannon
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If Voynov was suspended for years for domestic abuse, expect them to be banned for life if they are found guilty.
GKJ
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He was already untradeable for it, or else he likely would’ve been traded in the summer. It was enough that some people thought he actually had.
ponder719
Abols to Abols, Dust to Dust
One can hope. Obviously, the legal process must play out, but professional sports has a long, sordid history of looking the other way at heinous crimes as long as someone was talented. It would be a net positive to society if we normalized the idea of talent not being a "get out of consequences free" card.
Curufinwe
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His deal is over after this season.
Time to move on with Ersson, Petersen, and next season Kolosov.
Embiid
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Feels like Celebrity Jeopardy right now awaiting the names.
Theyve had promising young players get cancer, retire early for a migraine disorder, get detained by an authoritarian regime, and one refuse to play here. Might aswell add this to the list.
BrindamoursNose
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Another wise PR move by the Flyers
If something horrible has to be talked about, do it when there's another miserable story in the news
Sad but true. If Hart is one of the five called, and is found guilty, that's that. Pay for the crime. I am fan neutral when it comes to offenses such as this. Even if cleared, however, he will still retain a scar in the eyes of the public, which happens almost across the board, unfortunately.
But, if he is indeed guilty - sayonara and good riddance.
JojoTheWhale
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This org has a history.
@BiggE The one thing I wanted least out of this dopey fandom was the Tibbetts debates again. They're going to happen.
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