GDT: Carolina @ Tampa Bay 4 PM EDT USAN
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Svechhammer
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What's frustrating to me is that we are playing our worst hockey of the season in the playoffs. There are a myriad of reasons why that might be the case but that's just what is happening.
And it's a big stark difference from how the previous contending teams in our past played. 2002, 2006, 2009, and even 2019 we peaked at this moment. Each game we got better. But now? We are regressing as the pressure ramps up.
A part of me wonders if intentionally letting our foot off the gas and downplaying the opportunity to win the Presidents Trophy is playing a part in this.
Pittsburgh, Washington & Florida are home playing golf due to their GTending problems. Unfortunately, I expect the Bolts to finish us in 6 due to ours. In the playoffs, superior GTenders are differentiators. We do not have a SC type of GT on our roster.
Also, as I noted our special teams have killed us. First, we’re allowing Tampa to enter the zone and set up too easily. Coaching staff need to tweak the setup.
OTH, our PP has sucked for some time since teams have figured out how to stop us from entering the zone and setting up. Dougie is great in the zone but his slow feet is hurting us in getting in the zone and teams are game planning against us by focusing on the non-Dougie four.
If our PP was on all cylinders similar to earlier in the year we’re looking at a series lead.
In any event, it’s up to the staff and units to figure this out quickly.
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DougieSmash
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We also have home advantage over any team in the East...
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What's most frustrating to me is that these were all winnable games. We were the better team in Game 1, Game 2 was another close one, and we led 4-2 in Game 4. We absolutely could have been in a much better position in this series, if not have won it outright.
But sometimes, you just don't have Fortune's favor on your side. You could kind of tell throughout not just this series, but the Nashville one as well, something was just slightly off about our passes, our shots, just the general play of the team. Add in the officiating issues and the number of post hits, and you're left where we're at
But sometimes, you just don't have Fortune's favor on your side. You could kind of tell throughout not just this series, but the Nashville one as well, something was just slightly off about our passes, our shots, just the general play of the team. Add in the officiating issues and the number of post hits, and you're left where we're at
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While the Canes won during the season, they rarely won handily. Most were white knuckle battles until the end often due to their own issues - starting late, unnecessary penalties, lackadaisical play, etc. Maybe this choke job will be a hard lesson learned or the trend of laughing it off the next day without any real consequences will continue.
In many pressers, the players and the coach often addressed the need for mental breaks from the game. But, I agree easing up at the end was a mistake. You want to establish and constantly build on and maintain that intimidation factor so other teams fear you and get rattled when you play such as our current opponent has done. Not sure if it was a bit of arrogance or naïveté in their approach during the last few weeks but being comfortable as a confident front runner may take some time.
And for heaven’s sake stop being so stubborn if something or someone isn’t working and make adjustments. I get giving players some time in the regular season to improve in their roles but this is the playoffs and you’re already down a game. There’s no time for placating. Playing “our game” isn’t always going to get the win. Sometimes you have to be inventive and responsive to the situation at hand.
Let’s hope a return to normal in the fall eliminates some of the issues. They may have been doing their best just to get by during this weird time. Overall though, it has been a fun albeit teaser of a season...a taste of the good stuff instead of the whole bottle so far.
In many pressers, the players and the coach often addressed the need for mental breaks from the game. But, I agree easing up at the end was a mistake. You want to establish and constantly build on and maintain that intimidation factor so other teams fear you and get rattled when you play such as our current opponent has done. Not sure if it was a bit of arrogance or naïveté in their approach during the last few weeks but being comfortable as a confident front runner may take some time.
And for heaven’s sake stop being so stubborn if something or someone isn’t working and make adjustments. I get giving players some time in the regular season to improve in their roles but this is the playoffs and you’re already down a game. There’s no time for placating. Playing “our game” isn’t always going to get the win. Sometimes you have to be inventive and responsive to the situation at hand.
Let’s hope a return to normal in the fall eliminates some of the issues. They may have been doing their best just to get by during this weird time. Overall though, it has been a fun albeit teaser of a season...a taste of the good stuff instead of the whole bottle so far.
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To me it’s a combination of us looking like we’ve run out of gas at times, and them just being a better team. They weren’t firing on all cylinders during the season but they are now, they knew it didn’t matter who was the best then. We were sprinting most of the season proving we belonged. Even Necas looked slow yesterday.
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The Canes have not gotten any help from the zebras. I hate to blame them, but many of those calls were marginal at best.
Svetch has got to find a way to stay out of the box.
The Canes have not gotten any help from the zebras. I hate to blame them, but many of those calls were marginal at best.
Svetch has got to find a way to stay out of the box.
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He should stop doing illegal things. Those Nashville games were ridiculous. But it looks to me like Tampa is just being more disciplined.
It's particularly brutal when the penalty taken doesn't accomplish anything.
Svechhammer
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refs have been awful about calling penalties on our opponents, but there were few calls they made yesterday against us that weren't legit. You can argue we should have been on the PP more often, or at least had some 4 on 4, and that would be fair, but it's also completely fair to say that we need to stop committing boneheaded mistakes and penalties. Our inability to stay out of the box has been a recurring theme under Brindy. We have developed a reputation for it, and the only way it will stop is if we adjust, not the refs. Hamilton and Svech are 2 of the worst offenders here, and I'm most worried about Svech because it really seems to be impacting his development at this point.
bleedgreen
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Defenseman are taking penalties trying to stop scoring opportunities that everywhere around them. Most of them are needed, and some are the refs are calling penalties rarely seen in a playoff game. Some are penalties not being called on the other side of the rink.
Svech is being stupid.
Svech is being stupid.
Svechhammer
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I wasnt only talking about the playoffs. Hamilton had has a knack for taking bad penalties all the time in the regular season.
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Overall I hate to read all things such "maybe Brindy is not the right guy", "Bean is the worst ever", "the core is mediocre", "you can replace Hamilton with Borer" and "Svech is not good, not to mention he's friend with Hamilton"
It does hurt but I like the direction. We need to upgrade the roster but we are almost on Avs/Tampa/Bruins level. I don't see Isles, Panthers or Vegas better than us.
It does hurt but I like the direction. We need to upgrade the roster but we are almost on Avs/Tampa/Bruins level. I don't see Isles, Panthers or Vegas better than us.
bleedgreen
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I think a lot of people were mislead by our divisional success this season into thinking we are further along our development than we are. The presidents trophy thing was a bit of a giggle. We arent that good yet. This season was weird because we didnt get to play anyone else. I think both our success as well as the Panthers success was a little misleading. Both teams are on the rise but a cut below Tampa in terms of skill depth, team grit and experience. We are headed in the right direction, we could still win this series but I think Tampa's skill level is showing right now. They can take advantage of weak moments better than we can. Their ability to exploit a bad moment was overwhelming yesterday.
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It's a 4 game sample size, 2 of which were "close". I don't know if that was a deliberate plan on Tampa's part to play down to Carolina, bank on the high end talent/elite goaltending to win the day, and only activate the buzzsaw if necessary, or if Carolina was genuinely that close to Tampa in those two home games. It's near impossible to hash out what is a genuine problem that needs to be corrected and what is a knee jerk reaction to a frustrating situation in a small sample size.
For whatever reason I'm drawn to Rod bitching about the refs has led the refs to refuse to give Carolina any benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's because it's something I've watched, game after game, for 3 years. Maybe it's something that is easily corrected and it's only nonsense. But I like it. /shrug
For whatever reason I'm drawn to Rod bitching about the refs has led the refs to refuse to give Carolina any benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's because it's something I've watched, game after game, for 3 years. Maybe it's something that is easily corrected and it's only nonsense. But I like it. /shrug
bleedgreen
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Listened to the post game interviews of Rod and Slavin. To them it's all about the penalties. They dont think Mrazek was the problem or anything else, they think the game came down to they gave Tampa's pp too many chances. Rod thinks Vasi just had a bad game, and that the Canes haven't figured him out or anything. Pretty spot on. Said he they thought about pulling Mrazek but know hes a battler who would want to stay. That to me implies they didnt think it mattered which goalie was in with the chances Tampa was getting on the PP.
and who gives a darn? That had no cap implications. We had to go through a whole playoffs without the guy. He's as fragile as a toothpick
Nah….switch one position; give Canes Vasy and Bolts get either Ned or Mrazek and we’re leading the series or just closed it out.
sheriff bart
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Tampa has enough skill to make us pay on the PP and Svetch is good for 2 a game. Too late to change that this year, but that has to get fixed
Nikishin Go Boom
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This is one team playing great and got their super star back at the right time and another not playing well and suffering injuries. It is a part of the the crapshoot that is the playoffs. This series doesn’t say we overachieved during the regular season.
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Nikishin Go Boom
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Post season and regular season should always be judged separately. Playoffs are a crap shoot. Too many factors that can affect a short 4-7 games. Just means we weren’t invincible and picked a bad time to not play all the time.
Svechhammer
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We didn't overachieve. But we also didn't make nearly as many mistakes as we make now. Between the cheap penalties and unforced turnovers we have absolutely killed ourselves this postseason. Yesterday was the bottom falling out and it all coming to a head. I'm just worried that this mental malfunction in the playoffs is becoming regular.
I could accept the last few years if we were just beaten when we got eliminated. But we are just so far off our own game that it's as if we never gave ourselves the chance. I know this team is supposed to be learning and developing, but I do worry that some bad habits are being engrained when they get to the playoffs. The team that is playing now is nowhere near as dialed in as the one which beat Washington and the Isles in 2019.
I could accept the last few years if we were just beaten when we got eliminated. But we are just so far off our own game that it's as if we never gave ourselves the chance. I know this team is supposed to be learning and developing, but I do worry that some bad habits are being engrained when they get to the playoffs. The team that is playing now is nowhere near as dialed in as the one which beat Washington and the Isles in 2019.
Woke up this morning and realized....oh, that was not a horrible dream; it happened lol.
Anyway, I have no idea how GDTs are determined and I know I am a noob, but just wanted to throw my hat in the ring as an option for Game 5. Understand either way.
Anyway, let's win
Anyway, I have no idea how GDTs are determined and I know I am a noob, but just wanted to throw my hat in the ring as an option for Game 5. Understand either way.
Anyway, let's win
Svechhammer
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Whoever takes it has it the rest of the way. Either you have it til we get eliminated or you bring us so much luck we probably should let you have it til the end of the run anyway.Woke up this morning and realized....oh, that was not a horrible dream; it happened lol.
Anyway, I have no idea how GDTs are determined and I know I am a noob, but just wanted to throw my hat in the ring as an option for Game 5. Understand either way.
Anyway, let's win
So whoever takes it.... No pressure or anything
