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GDT: Carolina Panthers 5: Young and the Restless Fans
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Daeavorn
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Svechhammer
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I mean the trade for #1 was all on Tepper. If it was Reich or Fitterer who wanted that move done, they would have known exactly who they were picking before they made the trade. The fact they were still debating it right up until apparently the week before leads me to believe that Tepper ordered the trade done and told the staff it was theirs to figure out.
Just all around stupid. This team is permanently f***ed as long as he's the owner. This is worse than the Dan Snyder shit in DC.
Just all around stupid. This team is permanently f***ed as long as he's the owner. This is worse than the Dan Snyder shit in DC.
Daeavorn
livin' that no caps life
He REALLY thinks he can brute force his way into success in the NFL. He just tried to bulldoze every standing tradition and decided he knows best.
We are seriously screwed.
HisIceness
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Lol this franchise is so, so badly run.
Really the only thing he got right was the Panthers logo finally at midfield and not the NFL logo. But that's old news
Really the only thing he got right was the Panthers logo finally at midfield and not the NFL logo. But that's old news
Tepper is a clown. As long as he’s owner, this franchise is f***ed.
Svechhammer
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I'm convinced more than ever that he has long term plans to move the team to the highest bidding city, and he's fully content with absolutely salting the earth in Charlotte to make it happen when its time to renovate/replace BoA
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Svechhammer
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Navin R Slavin
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I can assure you it's not. Equally bad, perhaps.
AhosDatsyukian
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Tepper is the worst owner across all 4 main professional sports. Since he took over as owner the Panthers have the worst winning % of any team across all 4 sports. Just such a shame for us fans.
Svechhammer
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I dunno, man... I'm half expecting a story to come out soon that he's using people who have been human trafficked to the US to clean his house for the money savings. Seems like the kind of guy who would do it
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HisIceness
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See this is the kind of article that should have been written about Michael Jordan but never was.
That said nothing is wrong here
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Tepper making Jerry Richardson and his horrible personal conduct look good is scary.
AhosDatsyukian
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Jordan was kinda shielded by it because he's the GOAT in his sport, from NC, first black owner, first billionaire athlete, etc. Tepper is just some rich doofus from up north who came down here and ruined our team. Completely agree Jordan wasn't any better than Tepper but it makes sense why this kind of article was never written about him.
WreckingCrew
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Seems to be a recurring theme...but remember "everything up North is SO much better...that we want to come live down in your State"
Svechhammer
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The craziest part is that its not like the Panthers have a long storied run of success that he's actively torching. They already weren't a well run organization, but he's somehow made what was bad into a complete laughingstock. At this point, moving the team away might be inevitable, because I quite frankly don't know how they are going to keep and cultivate the fanbase anymore. There's zero reason to watch this team, there's zero reason to follow them. They are a dumpster fire, they have an owner who is too impatient to roster build, but too meddlesome to wait and see on what works, and he's going to fire any coach or GM who doesn't turn his shit sandwich into an immediate winner within 8 months. Its insanity, I don't know why anyone would want to coach here, I don't know why any player would want to play here. If I'm Bryce Young I'm holding out this summer until I'm traded. This team is going to ruin his career behind that Offensive Line, and I wouldn't blame him at all for refusing to play behind it.
At this point, the only hope I have of following a good football team in the state of NC for the next 15 years is to buy Sunday Ticket. I had so much hope for that franchise when Richardson was forced to sell, but all that hope is now gone. I really just don't see how this team rebounds under Tepper. They'd be better off having the franchise move and starting over from scratch with an expansion team.
Daeavorn
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Theyll want to coach here because tepper will throw an ever increasing amount of money at them.
Svechhammer
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They'll coach here only when all other options are gone. This is a coach killing job. This is the last job you take as a coach before you either head back to college or go work in the booth or studio for a broadcaster. You won't have any control over the roster, you will be held hostage to the trades the owner wants, and you're expected to deal with it. The only perk is the super high buyout check you get when you're inevitably fired that allows you to hop over to retirement for at least a few years to figure out your next steps.
If you have any hope of wanting to be a long term coach, you are seeing if you can get one of the other jobs that will be open this year (likely the Raiders, Chargers, Commanders, Jets, possibly the Pats and/or Giants as well) and then taking a serious look at what might be available next year if the Panthers come calling. And hell, there might even be some college jobs which would be better, especially given the ballooning pay at the college level.
Navin R Slavin
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That still wouldn't top Snyder literally pimping out his cheerleaders.
Navin R Slavin
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Two years before Tepper bought them, the Panthers were in the Super Bowl, favored to win, with an MVP quarterback and a near perfect record. I wonder if folks really remember how hype that team was. Sure, the next two years didn't go that well, but at its peak, the Carolina org was pretty damned good.
They will never ever be that good again so long as Tepper is the owner. That much seems clear.
Svechhammer
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100% that was such a fun team to watch. Cam going ham on everyone that season was just glorious. But even that roster was still a bit of a house of cards because that OL was in way over its head that year, and it all collapsed the following.
It does make me sad knowing we aren't that far removed from Luke and TD shutting everything down on the defensive side of the ball with Cam able to keep them in any game, and it all just evaporated shortly after Tepper took over. Say what you want about the way Jerry ran the franchise, but the Panthers had an identity during that era of playing hard nosed defensive football with an emphasis on trying to control the LOS. It didn't always work, but that was always the goal, and when they hit their peaks in 2003 and 2015, it was based upon that.
What is the Panthers identity under Tepper? What is the kind of football he wants the Panthers to run? I honestly don't know if I can answer that question.
AhosDatsyukian
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Yeah the lead up to Richardson's last season as owner was actually a pretty damn good stretch of success. The team has never had back to back winning seasons but due to making the playoffs with a losing record one year did have a stretch of 4 playoff appearances in 5 years, with 3 getting to round 2 or further. JR's last year 2017 was a very good season all around -- 11-5 record and a very close road playoff loss to the Saints who were actually a pretty dominant team that year and for a few more years after. Tepper took over in 2018 and 2018 started off well with Rivera and a healthy Cam, started 6-2 before the wheels completely fell off losing 7 straight and ever since then the team has been trash.
Buenos Necas
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The outlook for this franchise is about as bleak as it gets, and it all starts at the top of course.
Whoever it is that Tepper can actually convince to take this job will be walking into such a mess, it'll be a miracle if they can manage any level of success. The only way out will require some extreme soul-searching from Tepper and him willingly handing off all decision making to people with actual experience running a team. In other words, it ain't happening.
Whoever it is that Tepper can actually convince to take this job will be walking into such a mess, it'll be a miracle if they can manage any level of success. The only way out will require some extreme soul-searching from Tepper and him willingly handing off all decision making to people with actual experience running a team. In other words, it ain't happening.
