ya but the only reason Carolina would even consider this trade is to compete hard in the next 3-4 years, theoretically the trade does make a lot of sense for both teams
Friedman: Carolina is interested in JT Miller
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I doubt Kotkaniemi would be coming back in the trade if Pettersson is still with the Canucks. Remember it was Kotkaniemi who attacked Pettersson and tried to brake his leg
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Miller would be a perfect fit in Carolina and would be a key piece to push them over the edge in the next 2-3 years while they still have Aho/Slavin/Pesce on good, pre-UFA deals, but Carolina doesn't do deals like this. They don't pay significant prices for acquisitions and they don't pay big contracts lasting well into a players 30's.
Too bad because it's a great fit both ways in theory. Carolina's window is open right now and that team is begging for an acquisition to push them over the top. Miller would help their powerplay and could slot at centre or wing as needed. Meanwhile the Canucks will suck for the first half of Miller's contract which makes it pointless for us, and we could use any of Car's top d prospects.
Too bad because it's a great fit both ways in theory. Carolina's window is open right now and that team is begging for an acquisition to push them over the top. Miller would help their powerplay and could slot at centre or wing as needed. Meanwhile the Canucks will suck for the first half of Miller's contract which makes it pointless for us, and we could use any of Car's top d prospects.
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Lol no he hasn’t heard that Carolina is in conversation, where are you hearing that? He says himself he’s heard people reporting old rumors from the summer related to a Tkachuk/Miller three way trade that obviously never went down. That’s what this is.
Carolina lets Hamilton and Trocheck walk, only to take on a soon to be 30 year old Miller’s 7 year contract?
It’s inconsistent with how they’ve operated. Friedman doesn’t buy it. There’s not much here.
It’s inconsistent with how they’ve operated. Friedman doesn’t buy it. There’s not much here.
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There are definitely going to be GM's circling that think they are doing the Canucks a "favour" by giving us a cap dump and "relieving" us of the burden of the player who is 15th in league scoring since he became a Canuck. He is signed for 8 million a season until he is 36, which is a bit too long, but a totally reasonable cap hit in this landscape. Zibanejad is good comparable, who is signed for a similar time, same age and makes 8.5 instead of 8, with similar production (slightly fewer points).
If any team is serious about acquiring him, and not just circling to see if they can buy low, I see him being dealt as more of a hockey trade. The Canucks would be foolish to just dump him for nothing.
If any team is serious about acquiring him, and not just circling to see if they can buy low, I see him being dealt as more of a hockey trade. The Canucks would be foolish to just dump him for nothing.
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I mean, if a weatherman takes all the information available and says "yea it appears on this map here like there will be rain this weekend, but I don't see that happening." I'll believe, with his experience he knows something that isn't sitting right there.
Just like you said, maybe he has more information to come to that conclusion and knows what's being asked and in his experience it seems unlikely.
So, to answer your question, a lot of people care that he doesn't see it happening, including you, based on seeing you coming to conclusions on why he thinks that......
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Friedman should spend more time knocking back beers at the Water Buffalo Lodge with Barney Rubble and less time speculating about hockey moves.
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It’s against everything Canes management has done. They let all their ufa’s walk away. They never would’ve signed that extension.
Lol. Wow. Overstating things much? For the record what ACTUALLY happened is Pettersson attempted a reverse hit on Kotkaniemi, they got tangled up and went down awkwardly. After the game Pettersson, Green and Horvat all stated there was nothing dirty about the play and it was just an unfortunate result.
I dont care for insider's opinions, i want their information.
Friedman was really good with the Canucks and Horvat situation, he reported the Islanders interest before the trade got announced.
Same with Ethan Bear to the Canucks way before it happened.
Friedman imo definitely has a source in Vancouver.
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I think the Kadri contract, and light market for him is more likely. So 7m x 7 still a solid contract.
They don't want to lock up a soon to be 30 year old to 7.5 more years though. That doesn't fit at all. They go after bargains and keep the downside risk low if they are older i.e. one year of Pacioretty. They currently have only 4 guys signed for the 2024-25 season. I'm pretty confident they have zero interest in Miller post extension, seems like Friedman does too, as he presented this rumor as a favor to someone or to fill airtime I guess but is also putting out there that he doesn't believe it cause it hurts his reputation to share it without pointing that out.
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He says in his own podcast this is leftover summer crap. Why are you continuing?
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The Hurricanes generally seem to buy low on players. Look at the recent trades like Burns, Paccioretty, and to a lesser extent, trading for Trocheck and the Teravainen cap dump deal.
They rarely give up good assets in trades. They are only interested in Miller because they believe the circumstances of his contract make him basically neutral value and easy to acquire. They might even want Vancouver to retain.
They rarely give up good assets in trades. They are only interested in Miller because they believe the circumstances of his contract make him basically neutral value and easy to acquire. They might even want Vancouver to retain.
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Probably because Canucks don't want to take back KK
Now do his War from last year when he had 99 pts and was one of the top 5v5 producers in the league. ame with his first year here, and his second year he still had good 5v5 production. This year it started off slow, but he now has more 5v5 pts than PP.
Canes got a 1st to buy out 1 season of Marleau. You think an owner is just chomping at the bit (including Carolina's) to pay a guy 820k for 14 years to play somewhere else? KK is a cap dump through and through.
It makes no sense to me why not. The cup they won was because of deals like this. Acquiring Weight and Recchi cost a lot of futures, but no cup without it. Now they seem unwilling to do it, and they can't seem to get passed the second round these last 2 years. They seriously need to make win now moves before their window closes. They can't rely on "Anything can happen in the playoffs"
That's true that is based on my own speculation,
I just dont see Carolina taking a 56 mil contract without trying to dump KK's contract back...
Sat Shah who is also connected within the Canucks says it would take 1st and prospect to pry Miller out of Van which i just dont think is happening for Carolina, especially if KK is not involved.
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I am 90% sure that is what is happening. Carolina sees an opportunity to buy low. Canucks management don’t want to have egg on their face after signing the biggest contract of their tenure so far, at the expense of losing Horvat as well. This is an ego and PR issue for the Canucks management; not a logical decision.
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That’s if Carolina feels it should dump KK especially with Miller being a meh center, at best
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