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Rumor: Carolina Hurricanes offered 1 million USD to Spartak Moscow/KHL for D Nikishin

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stokes84 said:
A little different when you already have a contract and you aren’t being purchased from a Russian oligarch. That said, there are a lot of people who find that situation detestable too. I don’t know if you follow Hasek on twitter, but he is very vocal about it.
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Hašek is a garbage with complexes.
 
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notbias said:
Seems weird to me that an NHL team would be allowed to send a million dollars to a KHL team so a player didn't have to spend their own money. Is this common practice? I'd think this should not be allowed.
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what do you mean? They would be sending a million so Spartak would buy out Nikishin's contract. Canes cant sign Nikishin to a contract until his KHL contract is no longer.
 

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what do you mean? They would be sending a million so Spartak would buy out Nikishin's contract. Canes cant sign Nikishin to a contract until his KHL contract is no longer.
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I am just implying that the KHL is not known for its ethics, so I can see this being abused in some way. Not saying that is the case here.
 
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A prominent Russian hockey journalist denied it and calls this rumor a bunch of rubbish

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Павел Лысенков: «Каролина» не предлагала «Спартаку» никакие деньги за Никишина. Это просто запрещено, зашквар. Такого никто не делает»

Павел Лысенков опроверг информацию о том, что «Каролина» предлагала миллион долларов «Спартаку».
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A prominent Russian hockey journalist denied it and calls this rumor a bunch of rubbish

www.sports.ru

Павел Лысенков: «Каролина» не предлагала «Спартаку» никакие деньги за Никишина. Это просто запрещено, зашквар. Такого никто не делает»

Павел Лысенков опроверг информацию о том, что «Каролина» предлагала миллион долларов «Спартаку».
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Pavel Lysenkov: Carolina did not offer Spartak any money for Nikishin. It's just forbidden, scumbag. Nobody does that."​


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ViD said:
A prominent Russian hockey journalist denied it and calls this rumor a bunch of rubbish

www.sports.ru

Павел Лысенков: «Каролина» не предлагала «Спартаку» никакие деньги за Никишина. Это просто запрещено, зашквар. Такого никто не делает»

Павел Лысенков опроверг информацию о том, что «Каролина» предлагала миллион долларов «Спартаку».
www.sports.ru
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Guessing you do not want to discuss Lysenkov and his credibility. He repeates the general phrases, nothing concrete while having no inside information.

As a reply to Lysenkov, Zislis explains:
-unofficial talks about it
-it would be a player´s bonus re-paid to Spartak
-different from NHL TA (Sweden, Finland etc), all 3 parties need to agree: player, NHL club, KHL club. If speaking about NHL TA, you do not need an approval from Swedish, Finnish, Czech club.

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If it was another team and right now I could see it working, but SKA has the money to keep him.
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it was when he was a Spartak player.
 

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With no formal agreement but the KHL contract process involving the player buying their own way out of remaining years, this is an interesting topic to dive into. If there is no wrong-doing here in terms of contractual stuff, this could get weird.
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Not weird, but if there are no cap implications if they succeed, teams will probably start talking to KHL teams before drafts to see if it is possible to buy out their contract and bring them over sooner. Could see less players like Kaprisov drop to the 5th round.
 
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Grinner said:

Pavel Lysenkov: Carolina did not offer Spartak any money for Nikishin. It's just forbidden, scumbag. Nobody does that."​


Prominent? Must work for RT
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That’s an incorrect translation, he didn’t use the word ‘scumbag’ there, especially directed at anyone. The word he used means a club would be putting a blemish on their reputation had they done it.

vorky said:
Guessing you do not want to discuss Lysenkov and his credibility. He repeates the general phrases, nothing concrete while having no inside information.

As a reply to Lysenkov, Zislis explains:
-unofficial talks about it
-it would be a player´s bonus re-paid to Spartak
-different from NHL TA (Sweden, Finland etc), all 3 parties need to agree: player, NHL club, KHL club. If speaking about NHL TA, you do not need an approval from Swedish, Finnish, Czech club.
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Lysenkov has a much better reputation especially among Russian NHLers
 
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Chainshot said:
With no formal agreement but the KHL contract process involving the player buying their own way out of remaining years, this is an interesting topic to dive into. If there is no wrong-doing here in terms of contractual stuff, this could get weird.
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What’s he problem? Is just…money…being paid…for an asset…that doesn’t count on the cap..

wait…

no this can’t be right because even the nhl can’t be this stupid
 

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There is no transfer agreement between the NHL and KHL and to be honest, I don't blame the KHL for not wanting to be part of it. So if the player does not have a NHL contract and his rights are not owned by any team, not sure if the NHL can block this. Not 100% sure but this would be between the Canes and the KHL team to come to agreement and the KHL team has final say on the player they have under contract.

The $1M would come out of the Canes pocket and not factored in the cap. It's no different than the Leafs spending $10M on their AHL club where other teams spend less.
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There is a CBA for players. You can't go and pay players outside of the CBA just because it's through a proxy.
 
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Siludin said:
There is a CBA for players. You can't go and pay players outside of the CBA just because it's through a proxy.
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His NHL rights appear to be own by the Canes. But lets not pretend players are not signed as free agents and enter in our CBA contracts. The only thing holding this back is his current KHL contract so if you come to agreement on buying out the contract, you can make this happen.
 
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