Proposal: Carolina-Canucks: Skinner to Vancouver

[deckercky]

Not to the Canes.

I mean...we're weak upfront but in terms of what we have in the pipeline on D and where we drafted a lot of them (2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds)...we're defenseman university. Our D pool isn't great just because we keep taking D in the 1st round...it's also great because we keep finding Pesces and Slavins on the 2nd day of the draft and know how to develop them. We do a great job developing defensemen.

We don't need to trade for pricey vets that aren't as good as our kids.

I think you underestimate how good in scrums Sbisa is...

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Can Vancouver fans please stop with this delusion that Sbisa has a lot of Value.


It's simply mind-boggling how bad some of these trade proposals are.

He doesn't this is bad. [MOD] I was thinking more like Edler for Skinner straight up would be the offer but I don't get it as I feel the Canes have a decent D core. *shrug*

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

It's a bad proposal, but to be fair, he did put a "+" after Cassels, which could be a 1st rounder or something more valuable.

Also posts like these:

Cassels is terrible.

sbisa sucks, cassels is echl caliber

Are so short-sighted. Yeah he struggled in his first season in the AHL, but that happens to a lot of players (see Shinkaruk, Mantha, etc.). He also was recovering from an injury in the off season after winning the Memorial Cup, which meant he had much less time to workout and train before the season started. Give the kid some time; if he's as bad in the AHL this season, then I'll agree that he looks like a bust.

 

[CanesCupWin]

As a Canes fan, I approve this trade 100%.

 

[Roboturner913]

I was big on Cassels his draft year because I loved his dad. Wouldn't mind some sort of prospect swap there.

 

[DaveG]

I was big on Cassels his draft year because I loved his dad. Wouldn't mind some sort of prospect swap there.

Cassels for rights to Collin Olson and Gregory Hofmann

 

[quat]

Absurd? Like I said, Skinner is what you hope Boeser becomes. To me its fair value to ask for Boeser and a pick, hedging against Boeser not reaching his potential.

That is a fair asking price. Doubt the Canucks would do it (Benning though ...?) but that's certainly the ballpark for getting Carolina to trade Skinner.

Not sure what the other poster is thinking. Maybe Principal Skinner?

The first proposal is frankly just bizarre.

 

[quat]

Boeser is also cost-controlled for a lot of upcoming years, while Skinner makes 6 mill. Skinner is also a year removed from scoring 18 goals. He's also had multiple concussions. I'm not saying Sbisa can get him, and I'm not saying he's a bad player. I'm just saying there is no way the Canucks move their only top line prospect for him.

No, the Canucks shouldn't do that trade, particularly since they're no where close to competing for anything ... but that's pretty much the value for a player of skinner's age, pedigree and injury history and the same goes for Boeser's value. It's very reasonable both ways.

 

[Grazzy]

Skinner has had concussion issues, but his ability to score and his age still makes him a desirable add. I think you gotta look at a prospect that you don't wanna trade to get him (Ie: Demko/Boesser). Personally, I wouldn't make that trade, but that's probably the value

 

[member 147413]

Good Lord, that is as bad a counter-proposal as the original proposal. That is...I mean, that is incredibly bad.

And for the record, almost all Canucks fans understand exactly what Sbisa is, and want to be rid of him. The only deal that is remotely possible is for E. Kane, and only if Buffalo is terribly desperate.

You think it's a BAD proposal to trade a not even Top 25 prospect for a proven 30 goal scorer under 25!!

That's ridiculous!

Skinner value > Boeser value

 

[go comets]

Carolina has no need for sbisa, cassels is a fourth line ahl player, whom had a horrible year. And Gaunce shows up for about a dozen games a season.....

 

[Homesick]

To Vancouver : Skinner ($1M retained or straight up) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=116085

To carolina : Sbisa, Cole Cassels + (Gaunce/Hansen if needed)

Sbisa is a horrible defenseman with a horrible contract. The only value he has is to get him as far as possible off your roster.
Cassels might have some sort of sentimental value to the Canucks but he's not a decent prospect at all

Horrible. It's going to take the Canucks3-4 years to get out of this hole despite what Bennings dreams are

 

[McHortton]

Can Vancouver fans please stop with this delusion that Sbisa has a lot of Value.


It's simply mind-boggling how bad some of these trade proposals are.

No one thinks Sbisa has any value... Except this guy I guess. I mean his post was solid until the actual proposal.

 

[aufheben]

And I was just thinking how desperate Carolina is for defensemen.

 

[thenextone]

I wonder why we allow proposals on this board...

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

I'm not sure what's worse, the proposal in the OP or that it seems he put some thought and effort into making it.

 

[JWEKD]

The more I think about this I actually think Carolina would be getting the short end of Boeser and a 2nd or something for Skinner. Unless Carolina is trying to dump salary. Oh well.

 

[VoodooChile]

Canucks fans are overcompensating for how little Benning values his own players

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Hurricanes would be needing Horvat+, Boeser+, or Juolevi+ just to pick up the phone. Not sure Vancouver has a single asset as valuable as Skinner

 

[niel094]

So apparently the Sedins are worth two 1st round picks and a top NHL ready prospect. Sbisa is worth E. Kane. And boeser has more value than skinner. Someone also proposed something like tanev and a 2nd for hall... I'm not saying anything I'll just let these proposals speak for themselves

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

So apparently the Sedins are worth two 1st round picks and a top NHL ready prospect. Sbisa is worth E. Kane. And boeser has more value than skinner. Someone also proposed something like tanev and a 2nd for hall... I'm not saying anything I'll just let these proposals speak for themselves

as far as trade board proposals go

that is p much status quo

 

[StormCast]

Of all the misinformed comments here I think this is my favorite in reference to Skinner:

"He has been shopped for years while Carolina gets younger"