Carolina - 50 picks since 2019

[Big Daddy Cane]

How Carolina compares to a sample of how other successful teams approached it after making the playoffs the first time:

Team	Years	R1	R2	R3	SUM	R4	R5	R6	R7	SUM	TOTAL
Pittsburgh	07-11	4	3	4	11	5	6	6	2	19	30
Boston	08-12	5	4	4	13	4	4	5	5	18	31
Washington	08-12	6	3	3	12	6	5	5	6	22	34
Chicago	09-13	5	9	6	20	5	5	6	7	23	43
Los Angeles	10-14	3	5	4	12	5	6	6	5	22	34
St. Louis	12-16	3	8	3	14	7	6	5	4	22	36
Tampa	14-18	3	8	6	17	5	3	7	6	21	38
Toronto	17-21	3	5	4	12	7	5	6	7	25	37
Colorado	18-22	5	2	5	12	2	4	4	4	14	26
Carolina	19-23	3	9	8	20	8	6	8	8	30	50

The Canes have amassed a volume of picks by (1) only dabbling in the rental market as a contender (2) not being afraid to trade players for futures (Skinner, Faulk, Nedeljkovic, Bean, DeAngelo) and (3) trading down regularly.

How is HF feeling about this strategy? The Canes continue to have a top half type prospect pool despite late 1st round records, based on volume. However, they routinely get bad grades at the deadline as their inaction is seen as preventing ultimate success.

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[Szechwan]

Canes are the smartest guys in the room imo.

 

[I am Canadian]

I think they are a model franchise - they tend to be good year after year. I'd want them to go all in on Hellebuyck for example. They need a goalie to stand of his head to win a cup imo. Goaltending is average being propped up by good team defense.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Getting a new owner and coach helped too.

 

[Connor McConnor]

How Carolina compares to a sample of how other successful teams approached it after making the playoffs the first time:

Team	Years	R1	R2	R3	SUM	R4	R5	R6	R7	SUM	TOTAL
Pittsburgh	07-11	4	3	4	11	5	6	6	2	19	30
Boston	08-12	5	4	4	13	4	4	5	5	18	31
Washington	08-12	6	3	3	12	6	5	5	6	22	34
Chicago	09-13	5	9	6	20	5	5	6	7	23	43
Los Angeles	10-14	3	5	4	12	5	6	6	5	22	34
St. Louis	12-16	3	8	3	14	7	6	5	4	22	36
Tampa	14-18	3	8	6	17	5	3	7	6	21	38
Toronto	17-21	3	5	4	12	7	5	6	7	25	37
Colorado	18-22	5	2	5	12	2	4	4	4	14	26
Carolina	19-23	3	9	8	20	8	6	8	8	30	50

The Canes have amassed a volume of picks by (1) only dabbling in the rental market as a contender (2) not being afraid to trade players for futures (Skinner, Faulk, Nedeljkovic, Bean, DeAngelo) and (3) trading down regularly.

How is HF feeling about this strategy? The Canes continue to have a top half type prospect pool despite late 1st round records, based on volume. However, they routinely get bad grades at the deadline as their inaction is seen as preventing ultimate success.

Yet they can’t get past the 2nd round more than once

 

[MessierII]

That’s great how close are they to actually winning a cup? How many deep playoff runs?

 

[MikeyMike01]

Hasn’t turned into any championships so it’s hard to praise the strategy

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Yet they can’t get past the 2nd round more than once

You must be talking about the Oilers. Because the hurricanes have gotten to the ECF twice in the last 5 years, winning 7 playoff series in that span.

 

[Grifter3511]

What Carolina really needs are a few game breakers beyond Aho. Everything else is there. Just one or two more ppg kinda guys who can keep the scoring alive in those grinding playoff battles.

 

[Connor McConnor]

You must be talking about the Oilers. Because the hurricanes have gotten to the ECF twice in the last 5 years, winning 7 playoff series in that span.

And they have never been close to winning a single Cup. Edmonton atleast has had a legit chance a few times but ran into the eventual Cup winner. Carolina is a RS juggernaut and that’s about it. Paper tigers.

 

[Victorias]

You must be talking about the Oilers. Because the hurricanes have gotten to the ECF twice in the last 5 years, winning 7 playoff series in that span.

Swept both times though…

Either way, their recent playoff history doesn’t have anything to do with their draft pick accumulating as the only guy from 2019 onwards who is a regular is Seth Jarvis (13th overall).

It all depends on how these picks turn out.

 

[Joe McGrath]

And they have never been close to winning a single Cup. Edmonton atleast has had a legit chance a few times but ran into the eventual Cup winner. Carolina is a RS juggernaut and that’s about it. Paper tigers.

With that defense and goaltending Edmonton hasn’t had a legit chance anymore than Carolina. What an insane take.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

And they have never been close to winning a single Cup. Edmonton atleast has had a legit chance a few times but ran into the eventual Cup winner. Carolina is a RS juggernaut and that’s about it. Paper tigers.

Go ahead and ignore the fact that you were already wrong. But the Hurricanes have been just as close to the Oilers, and they've done it twice.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

And they have never been close to winning a single Cup. Edmonton atleast has had a legit chance a few times but ran into the eventual Cup winner. Carolina is a RS juggernaut and that’s about it. Paper tigers.

This is a terrible argument.

As for the rest of it, people who live in glass houses shouldn't undress, or something.

 

[BigEezyE22]

Canes are the smartest guys in the room imo.

They've had the parades to show for it.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I'd rather have a cup but if they do win one, I'd bet on that organization to sustain it. Smart smart franchise, but sometimes you need guts more than brain.

 

[themelkman]

I always love their drafts, but to be honest not that many of those awesome picks ever seem to pan out.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

And they have never been close to winning a single Cup. Edmonton atleast has had a legit chance a few times but ran into the eventual Cup winner. Carolina is a RS juggernaut and that’s about it. Paper tigers.

Huh? The Oilers didn't have a shot against the Avs.

 

[DearDiary]

And they have never been close to winning a single Cup. Edmonton atleast has had a legit chance a few times but ran into the eventual Cup winner. Carolina is a RS juggernaut and that’s about it. Paper tigers.

Oilers with their trash goaltending, 1 way forwards and questionable defence had a legit chance at the cup, not just once but a few times? They have never even sniffed a chance at winning a cup

 

[The Crypto Guy]

It clearly isnt working so..

 

[OKR]

It clearly isnt working so..

This is such a stupid thing to say. They’ve finished 1st in their division every year since 2019, 31 teams fail to win a Cup every year.

It’s clearly working so..

 

[Peat]

I mean that is hella impressive

But I do suspect that at some point to get over the line, they're going to have to spend and spend to get over the top

 

[BLNY]

They're the kings of trading down.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

This is such a stupid thing to say. They’ve finished 1st in their division every year since 2019, 31 teams fail to win a Cup every year.

It’s clearly working so..

No cup = fail

 

[Breakers]

we do the exact opposite in Vancouver

The perpetual death cycle that Aquilini has Vancouver in

1) Spend in free agency like a drunken sailor
2) proceed to question why they don't have cap space
3) spend picks to clear cap or use buyouts
4) wonder why have no cost controlled assets or draft picks
5) spend in free agency

and repeat, repeat, repeat