GDT: car @ nyi

[the halleJOKEL]

yay team

 

[Joe McGrath]

Well, he was at least 1/3rd responsible for the Gionta goal, so maybe you are on to something.

I posted this in the other thread...in the 3 games against the Isles this year, the Canes have scored 12% of their total goals on the season.

How much is it if you add Vancouver? 25?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

How much is it if you add Vancouver? 25?

17%

28 Goals in those 4 games out of 168 total.

 

[NotOpie]

Overall I thought Wallmark acquitted himself well. Nothing flashy and no glaring errors. Almost potted one two. Saw a couple of nifty passes as well.

Tonight will be a test, I think as the Isle's are likely to bring it.

 

[Breakdowns]

One game I was able to watch, and I decided to skip to get some sleep, **** me

And when I will watch next one (maybe tonight), we will lose like 2:1...

Awful goaltending, but very interesting game to watch!

NBC`s infographics were just wrong, many times, you can see that they don`t care about our team

 

[NotOpie]

One game I was able to watch, and I decided to skip to get some sleep, **** me

And when I will watch next one (maybe tonight), we will lose like 2:1...

Awful goaltending, but very interesting game to watch!

NBC`s infographics were just wrong, many times, you can see that they don`t care about our team

There's a shocker for you!

But Ray Ferraro bringing the Cam Ward hate was about as big of a truth bomb as I've heard any analyst, anywhere, bring to the table. I mean other than the Ho-Sang goal, all of them were saves you'd like your goaltender to make.

 

[RodTheBawd]

I still laugh when I think of that NYI guy that said we are a boring team. That was in between dropping 7 and 5 (and now 8) on them.

Thanks. So whenever there is a picture of a military tank, it's technically incorrect (this literal explanation is for Rod).

I see you BBA.

Overall I thought Wallmark acquitted himself well. Nothing flashy and no glaring errors. Almost potted one two. Saw a couple of nifty passes as well.

Tonight will be a test, I think as the Isle's are likely to bring it.

I was shocked to see Wallmark had 10 minutes, dude was invisible. It's not like he was put into a position to succeed, but I thought he was as useless as possible.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

There's a shocker for you!

But Ray Ferraro bringing the Cam Ward hate was about as big of a truth bomb as I've heard any analyst, anywhere, bring to the table. I mean other than the Ho-Sang goal, all of them were saves you'd like your goaltender to make.

Can't really put the Gionta goal on him.

1st goal: Even though Slavin tipped it, probably should have stopped that.
2nd goal: He stopped the wrap around which was his job, the 3 guys in front letting Gionta get the loose puck was the issue. That's not on the goalie IMO.
3rd goal: On Ward.
4th goal: Nothing he could do, bad TO by Ryan.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

There's a shocker for you!

But Ray Ferraro bringing the Cam Ward hate was about as big of a truth bomb as I've heard any analyst, anywhere, bring to the table. I mean other than the Ho-Sang goal, all of them were saves you'd like your goaltender to make.

That was so refreshing. Nice to have an independent analyst who can call a spade a spade without worrying about what the org thinks.

I really do wonder what Forslund was thinking when Ferraro went off.

 

[MinJaBen]

That was so refreshing. Nice to have an independent analyst who can call a spade a spade without worrying about what the org thinks.

I really do wonder what Forslund was thinking when Ferraro went off.

Probably taking advantage that he was not on camera by smiling and nodding his head in agreement.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Probably taking advantage that he was not on camera by smiling and nodding his head in agreement.

This. Forslund's a smart dude, he's gotta be tired of Tripp's apologism (put that in your Websters).

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Can't really put the Gionta goal on him.

1st goal: Even though Slavin tipped it, probably should have stopped that.
2nd goal: He stopped the wrap around which was his job, the 3 guys in front letting Gionta get the loose puck was the issue. That's not on the goalie IMO.
3rd goal: On Ward.
4th goal: Nothing he could do, bad TO by Ryan.

Glad someone else said it, since I can't without reeking of bias.

Not that allowing 2 goals any goaltender in the league should have is much better...

 

[geehaad]

I'm probably preaching to the choir, here -- that is the *exact* number of goals/SOG that Lack allowed when Peters called him out. The difference, of course, is that no one expects that Lack should have stopped any of those 4 goals. Ward's, on the other hand, ...

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'm probably preaching to the choir, here -- that is the *exact* number of goals/SOG that Lack allowed when Peters called him out. The difference, of course, is that no one expects that Lack should have stopped any of those 4 goals. Ward's, on the other hand, ...

Yep, that was the whole issue with the call-out for me. Selective accountability.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Glad someone else said it, since I can't without reeking of bias.

Not that allowing 2 goals any goaltender in the league should have is much better...

It's ok when the other guys give up 5 like that

 

[Joe McGrath]

17%

28 Goals in those 4 games out of 168 total.

I think you're missing the early season 3 goal blown lead. So 31 out of 168. Whatever that is. Once they drop 10 tonight that should get us there

 

[Breakdowns]

I think Ferraro did a good job of calling out both team goalies and defense on many occasion. He can do that. Of course Tripp is not stupid, he knows that goalie or D man made bad mistake, but Fox Sports pays him, to keep a viewer to TV, so he is searching for good things to say, when everything is **** You can see that some nights he really needs to search hard to find something good to tell because they have played so bad!

 

[A Star is Burns]

Lack since returning: 7GP 2-3-1 2.44 .906 1SO
Ward same time frame: 9 2-4-3 3.24 .888 0SO

And it wasn't just being called out making Eddie play better. From Lack returning to the call out, Eddie was better statistically. But, Peters pretty much said he hopes not to call out players like that again, so no matter how trash Ward is, he won't get called out now. Not that he was ever going to for reasons anyways.

And yes, I think Ward's performance in this game was much worse than Eddie in that Tampa game, but the team bailed him out. Granted, I feel weird defending Lack since I want him gone as well for poor overall performance.

 

[Ole Gil]

I'm probably preaching to the choir, here -- that is the *exact* number of goals/SOG that Lack allowed when Peters called him out. The difference, of course, is that no one expects that Lack should have stopped any of those 4 goals. Ward's, on the other hand, ...

Seems more likely Lack getting called out was from the culmination of his awfulness. That was his 8th game of the season, and he'd given up 4+ in 4 of them. On the back of last season, which was also a disaster.

Theoretically, on a normal hockey team, if a mediocre starter like Cam is off their game, you can call on the backup to spell them for a bit. I'm sure Peters got tired of not having that option, because Lack couldn't seem to give up less than 4 2 nights in a row.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Seems more likely Lack getting called out was from the culmination of his awfulness. That was his 8th game of the season, and he'd given up 4+ in 4 of them. On the back of last season, which was also a disaster.

Theoretically, on a normal hockey team, if a mediocre starter like Cam is off their game, you can call on the backup to spell them for a bit. I'm sure Peters got tired of not having that option, because Lack couldn't seem to give up less than 4 2 nights in a row.

Your points are certainly valid, but the defense was pretty awful at the beginning of the season, along with the goalies, which is when Lack picked up some of those. Ward was sporting about a 3 GAA when Lack went down. And in his first 5 games of the season, Ward let up 4+ 3 times. Ward deserved a heck of a lot of praise for a long stretch of great play, but he deserved criticism as much as Lack early and late in the season, and doesn't seem to get much from staff.

 

[ONO94]

So--for all of the other U-24 d-men--I know none have more points than Slavin short handed--but do they have any? Provorov, Werenski, Parayko, Eckblad, Lindholm?

 

[NotOpie]

Can't really put the Gionta goal on him.

1st goal: Even though Slavin tipped it, probably should have stopped that.
2nd goal: He stopped the wrap around which was his job, the 3 guys in front letting Gionta get the loose puck was the issue. That's not on the goalie IMO.
3rd goal: On Ward.
4th goal: Nothing he could do, bad TO by Ryan.

Didn't that first goal, despite getting tipped, slip in 5 hole. Also, it felt like he was a little deep there too.

My problem with the wrap around was with the overall defense too. However, and I might be asking too much but I thought Ward should have covered up after the initial shot. His glove is right there; it looked like he thought he had it but he didn't.

I'd likely give him the benefit of the doubt if he hasn't been such a tire fire since Jan. 1. Of the 23 games he's played in he's had a SV% below .900 in 13 of them.

Seems more likely Lack getting called out was from the culmination of his awfulness. That was his 8th game of the season, and he'd given up 4+ in 4 of them. On the back of last season, which was also a disaster.

Theoretically, on a normal hockey team, if a mediocre starter like Cam is off their game, you can call on the backup to spell them for a bit. I'm sure Peters got tired of not having that option, because Lack couldn't seem to give up less than 4 2 nights in a row.

This seems to be exactly right. Peters was clearly frustrated and clearly felt badly about it afterward.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Didn't that first goal, despite getting tipped, slip in 5 hole. Also, it felt like he was a little deep there too.

Right, as I said, probably should have stopped that so I put that one on him.

My problem with the wrap around was with the overall defense too. However, and I might be asking too much but I thought Ward should have covered up after the initial shot. His glove is right there; it looked like he thought he had it but he didn't.

Meh...That's easier said than done and asking a bit too much if you ask me. The player slammed the puck with force and covering it up is very unlikely unless the player traps is there with his stick. It was bang-bang and it popped out.

I'd likely give him the benefit of the doubt if he hasn't been such a tire fire since Jan. 1. Of the 23 games he's played in he's had a SV% below .900 in 13 of them.

I'm just calling it like I see it rather than analyzing a play with built in bias.

 

[NotOpie]

I'm just calling it like I see it rather than analyzing a play with built in bias.

That is not built-in bias. That's "earned" bias.

 

[caniac247]

"The Carolina Hurricanes have the worst goaltending in the league" - Ray Ferraro

This is one statement I can say I 100% agree with. Sadly it was refreshing to hear this. I hope GMRF heard as well. Lack and his what, 10 games are not why this team is out of the playoffs. He's part of the problem, but the one who must have nude pictures is quite terrible as well.

NBC was probably licking their chops at this game. It had everything they like: high scoring and a penalty shot. Not sure why they don't air Carolina more than once a season, we usually give them high scoring games: 5-0 win last year with Chicago, now this 8-4 game.