Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] D Jaccob Slavin signs extension with the Hurricanes (8 years, $6.396M AAV; begins 2025-26, salary deferred to 9th year)

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There is only so much you can pay a guy that puts up 5-6 goals and 35 pts a year

I think this is a pretty fair contract for what he brings
Dude would have gotten 8-9M+ on the open market.

He's an elite shut down defenseman who is also 23rd in 5v5 points among defenseman over the last 3 years, ahead of guys like:
  • Heiskanen
  • Carlson
  • Montour
  • Pietrangelo
  • Pionk
  • Doughty
  • Andersson
  • Seider
  • Gostisbehere
  • Burns
  • Orlov
  • Chabot
  • Matheson
  • Severson
  • Chabot
  • Barrie
  • Jones
  • DeAngelo
His 5v5 p/60 is roughly equivalent to Dahlin. He produces plenty of offense, he just doesn't pile up PP points because that's not his role.
 

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You do know there's more to being a defenseman than putting up points right?
I sure do.
Dude would have gotten 8-9M+ on the open market.

He's an elite shut down defenseman who is also 23rd in 5v5 points among defenseman over the last 3 years, ahead of guys like:
  • Heiskanen
  • Carlson
  • Montour
  • Pietrangelo
  • Pionk
  • Doughty
  • Andersson
  • Seider
  • Gostisbehere
  • Burns
  • Orlov
  • Chabot
  • Matheson
  • Severson
  • Chabot
  • Barrie
  • Jones
  • DeAngelo
His 5v5 p/60 is roughly equivalent to Dahlin. He produces plenty of offense, he just doesn't pile up PP points because that's not his role.
That’s fine. I understand that’s not his role. But are you really going to pay a guy 9 million a year that can’t qb a powerplay?
 

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We’re paying him until he’s 39. This doesn’t kick in until after next season when he’s 31. Yes he plays a game that may age well but there’s pretty big risk here too. Defensive dmen don’t get big money even when they’re amazing at it. I don’t see this as the huge discount other people do.

He’s generally worth the risk though.

Ps. Not sure why anyone would think he took a discount on the first one. Francis took heat for signing him for what he got back then. RF took the chance of signing a guy young for bigger money than you thought he’d earned with longer term with the hope it would turn out a bargain as costs went up. Which it did. Teams do this all the time now, but the Slavin and Pesce contracts were both considered surprises and a risk.
He's a two way Dman, not a just a defensive Dman. Guys who score 30+ points are contributing significantly on offense. I'd say he is a top 10 Dmen in the league, top 15 at worst. If i want to protect a lead, or put a guy out to counter a guy like McDavid, Mackinnon, or Kucherov, i am choosing him, not Makar, Josi, or Quinn Hughes.
 

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Congratulations to the Canes.

Fantastic deal and would have obtained approx. $8.5M per with another team. Top 10 DMan signed for likely the remainder of his career. Term might be a two years too long, but likely to reduce the AAV that would have resulted in 6 years @ $8.5M and the same total.
 

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That’s fine. I understand that’s not his role. But are you really going to pay a guy 9 million a year that can’t qb a powerplay?
Sure, why not? It's much easier to find a dime a dozen PP QB like Gostisbehere or DeAngelo than it is to find a Jaccob Slavin.

And it's not like Slavin can't QB a PP, they just prefer to save him for 5v5 and SH situations. When he did QB the PP more a few years ago, he was top 25 in on ice PP GF/60 among dmen, despite primarily anchoring the 2nd unit.
 

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So psyched. Slavin is my favorite player. I'm a total homer but he's by far the best defenseman to have ever suited up for the Hurricanes. I can't compare with Mark Howe as that was before my time.

It's a good deal but I don't think you can say a "steal" since it goes until he's 38 (39 if they make the 3rd or 4th round of the playoffs in the 8th year). It's also clear that Slavin wanted a fair deal and COULD have driven a harder bargain if he had wanted. He is by all accounts a chill dude.
 

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I dont believe that anywhere near as many players in the league are taking discounts to stay with their teams...that's a dumb, naive thing fans overblow and make up everytime something that appears team friendly happens, particularly with the earning potential in this sport being so much lower than the other major leagues.

I've never bought into the narrative of Slavin being the most underrated player in the league. I mean, it's clearly either that the league doesn't actually agree with that (hence him being paid like a good #2 defensemen and not a #1), or he/his agent got fleeced. I think it's the former...the league probably just doesn't see him in the same light as fans do, and the league is usually more correct than fans are.
When he signed his last contract, I'm pretty sure I remember he stated that he took a discount to allow more money for the team. He's a very religious and super nice person
 
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When he signed his last contract, I'm pretty sure I remember he stated that he took a discount to allow more money for the team. He's a very religious and super nice person
Half the players in the league will tell you they're taking discounts. Maybe 1% are talking the truth, if that.

I find the blind idealism around player/team discount hopium in sports to be cringey. He's making as much money as the Canes were willing to pay him, simple as that.
 
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Half the players in the league will tell you they're taking discounts. Maybe 1% are talking the truth, if that.

I find the blind idealism around player/team discount hopium in sports to be cringey. He's making as much money as the Canes were willing to pay him, simple as that.
I guarantee you that Hurricanes were willing to pay more than 6.5M for Slavin, lol are you serious?
 

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Yes, I'm dead serious about how f***ing silly it is that an absurd number of peope think every player who re-signs with their team is "taking a discount"
1. I'm not a hurricanes fan.
2. You have no idea what you're talking about. Slavin would have gotten a 9M contract as a UFA. The hurricanes just paid Orlov 7M, you don't think they would have given Slavin more if he demanded it?
3. It's very rare for players to take discounts, but Slavin is very clearly an exception.
 

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2. You have no idea what you're talking about

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Yes, I'm dead serious about how f***ing silly it is that an absurd number of peope think every player who re-signs with their team is "taking a discount"
Canes fans hardly act like every player takes a discount. Look at all our low cost signings...Dougie, Trocheck, Skjei...oh wait, that's right, they all left and got expensive long-term contracts elsewhere. Slavin is a notoriously religious person (who seems to also actually BE a good person) signed for a low-cost contract in 2017 when the Canes were not good. He stated at the time that the team meant more than personal gain. In 2024, he is clearly worth more than 6.4 million per, even considering his age at the end of the contract. This, right here, IS one of those few exceptions where a player takes a discount.
 

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Seems like an incredible deal imo. Slavin is awesome. Can’t wait for him to represent USA
 

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I’m a Canes fan and don’t really think he gave a discount. The deal doesn’t even start until after next season when he’s 31. So it’s his 31-39 years. We love to think his game couldn’t erode as easily as everyone else’s based on his reach/stick work but it’s as much about genetics and luck when it comes to fending off Father Time. If it was another team for seven years it would of course be a bit more AAV. You have to also consider that defensive minded players just don’t bring in as much AAV, even if they’re brilliant at it like Slavin is. Technically he’s a two way guy but his slant is really heavy on the D. He doesn’t make as many plays as he used to. RBA’s system involves lots of flips and banking it off the glass to get it out of the zone with heavy forechecking pressure, and Slavin very much sticks to the system these days. He’s already either lost a step of has been fighting injuries for a couple of years.

I’d be surprised if he isn’t LTIR’d for awhile towards the end of this deal. I like that we kept him, and he’s earned his retirement contract 100% but I don’t really buy into the thought he gave us a discount.
 

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