Confirmed Trade: [CAR/CGY] Eddie Lack, Ryan Murphy and 7th ('19) for Keegan Kanzig & 6th ('19)

[vandymeer13]

Kanzig big tough kid. If he has heart he can be a solid ahl enforcer. Probably will get moved to wing. If this was the good old days he would probably be the canes enforcers er him and kyle hagel are the only toughness in the organization.

 

[Raging Bull]

You would think that a team pumping out so many great defensemen like the canes would have already been successful with Murphy if it was possible. You just can't add on a few extra IQ points by practising harder.

As for lack, like I said, he's probably going to lose us games. He's up down and all over the place, and we have no luck with goalies as is, I can't name the last successful season by a goalie that wasn't kipper.

Fair enough. I don't think you guys will need an ace in net with the way your defense is shaping up, if Smith can give you a .925 I don't think your backup will have to play enough games to make a huge difference in the standings for Calgary. Either way they are a shoe in for the playoffs. Cheers

Edit: maybe 925 is reaching for the stars, how about a 920.

 

[Kybb79]

If anything, he is a warm body to step in on the bottom pairing when injuries inevitably hit.

Yeah the more depth the better.Lack was a fan favorite in Vancouver he feeds of the crowd.I think he will like it here.

 

[Lunatik]

I like that this doesn't preclude Gillies and Rittich from having a shot to win the back-up job, but still gives us insurance if they don't.

Murphy will likely still suck and not get a QO next summer, but there is always hope that a change of scenery might help. I'm expecting that he plays in Stockton. Hopefully Kanzig gets a better chance in the Canes organization than he got in the Flames.

 

[DFF]

If there's anyone who won't fix a previous goalie coach's screwup, it's Jordan Sigalet.

Yeah, Sigalet will help him exit the NHL forever

 

[JurassicTunga]

I'll take it as a flames fan.

 

[Booba]

...why?

I don't see why they'd want Lack as the backup. I hope he can rebound, not gonna hold my breath though.

He was solid during the last month of the season and 1,375 million is a relatively cheap cap hit/salary for a guy who is still young and was a 1B not too long ago.

Lack, Gillies and Rittich are going to battle it out for the backup role in Calgary this season.

Unless Lack really falters, I don't see Gillies or Rittich starting the season in Calgary. It's probably too soon to call them "NHL-ready" since they respectively only have 49 and 35 games of AHL experience under their belt.

One of them could always win the backup job during the season like Brossoit did with Edmonton last season. (However, it was more a case of Gustavsson losing his job than Brossoit outplaying the veteran.)

On another note, I'm surprised that McCollum wasn't moved in this trade. The Lack acquisition now gives Calgary 8 goaltender under contract for 2017-2018.

NHL : Smith, Lack
AHL : Gillies, Rittich, McCollum
ECHL : MacDonald
ECHL or CHL : Parson, Schneider

McCollum finished the 2016-17 season playing for Charlotte on loan from Calgary so he's already familiar with the organisation and, on top of that, Carolina is likely looking for someone who can mentor Nedeljkovic and Booth at the AHL level.

I thought it would have been a great fit...

 

[Snakepit]

He was solid during the last month of the season and 1,375 million is a relatively cheap cap hit/salary for a guy who is still young and was a 1B not too long ago.



Unless Lack really falters, I don't see Gillies or Rittich starting the season in Calgary. It's probably too soon to call them "NHL-ready" since they respectively only have 49 and 35 games of AHL experience under their belt.

One of them could always win the backup job during the season, like Brossoit did with Edmonton last season. (However, it was more a case of Gustavsson losing his job than Brossoit outplaying the veteran.)

On another note, I'm surprised that McCollum wasn't moved in this trade. The Lack acquisition now gives Calgary 8 goaltender under contract for 2017-2018.

NHL : Smith, Lack
AHL : Gillies, Rittich, McCollum
ECHL : MacDonald
ECHL or CHL : Parson, Schneider

McCollum finished the 2016-17 season playing for Charlotte on loan from Calgary so he's already familiar with the organisation and, on top of that, Carolina is likely looking for someone who can mentor Nedeljkovic and Booth at the AHL level.

I thought it would have been a great fit...

Where McCollum plays really isn't a concern for Calgary. He was brought in to meet expansion exposure requirements, if he's scratched every night somewhere, who cares.

NHL: Smith - Lack/Rittich
AHL: Gillies - Rittich/Lack/Parsons
ECHL: Parsons - MacDonald
WHL: Schneider (Just got traded to the Hitmen so likely he goes back to jr)

McCollum: Loaned out again or scratched somewhere in case of injuries

You're right that McCollum could have been decent minor G depth for the Hurricanes though. Wouldn't surprise me to see Calgary make a small move to offload him and/or MacDonald just to make room

 

[Remember2004]

How many years left on Lack? What happened from the time he was solid in Vancouver to Carolina? It almost seemed like he went downhill after he went to Carolina.

 

[Booba]

How many years left on Lack? What happened from the time he was solid in Vancouver to Carolina? It almost seemed like he went downhill after he went to Carolina.

Just one year.

Concussions might have hurt his play.

 

[VanJack]

Lack was a cap-dump by Carolina...one year left on his deal....the price was a young d-man in Murphy.....absolutely nothing coming back to the 'Canes from the Flames....another good deal by Treliving.....they're killing it this off-season.

 

[SB84]

IMO great trade for the Flames. Murphy still has that potential to be a go to guy on the powerplay. Just let him fly on your first unit in training camp and the first quarter of the season, if it doesn't work out, what's the downside?

Let him fly as our PP QB to start the season? Absolutely not. The downside is having a terrible PP and risk missing the playoffs while making Brodie, Gio, Hamilton upset because they're told to sit on the bench while a kid who has done absolutely nothing to deserve that right, in fact just the opposite, hops over the boards. He should not be on an NHL roster. Let him develop and work with our coaches in the AHL to see if he can resurrect his career. Maybe let him man the PP in the minors first.

 

[Bank Shot]

Lack was a cap-dump by Carolina...one year left on his deal....the price was a young d-man in Murphy.....absolutely nothing coming back to the 'Canes from the Flames....another good deal by Treliving.....they're killing it this off-season.

What?


This deal was Carolina passing Treviling an empty McDonalds bag and saying, "Here, Hold this."

 

[Leafidelity]

Ryan Murphy was one of the worst Canadian WJHC players I've ever seen

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Lack was a cap-dump by Carolina...one year left on his deal....the price was a young d-man in Murphy.....absolutely nothing coming back to the 'Canes from the Flames....another good deal by Treliving.....they're killing it this off-season.

this must be sarcasm, right?

Picking up a borderline NHL goalie, a borderline #7 dman and downgrading a 6th round pick into a 7th is killing it?

You're either joking, have low expectations or are stuck 4 years in the past where Lack is still decent and Murphy still has potential.

 

[Snakepit]

What?


This deal was Carolina passing Treviling an empty McDonalds bag and saying, "Here, Hold this."

Hardly

Calgary gets a guy with NHL experience to compete with their youngsters for the backup goalie job, and a young dman to compete with their youngsters for the 6/7 D spots. All they gave up was a 6th round pick and a career ECHLer.

Carolina gets to clear some space and cap.

Worst case scenario, neither Lack or Murphy achieve anything next year and move on in free agency. In which case Calgary is no farther behind than they were with Kanzig and a 6th rounder.

There might not be anything to get excited about in this deal, but there's nothing to talk trash about either

 

[Wolfpuck]

Lack can at least possibly bounce back. Murphy is a Hail Mary to become anything at this point.

 

[NeutralFan88]

I didn't think Bt could go into this season with worse goaltending than last, but he did it!

 

[Bank Shot]

Hardly

Calgary gets a guy with NHL experience to compete with their youngsters for the backup goalie job, and a young dman to compete with their youngsters for the 6/7 D spots. All they gave up was a 6th round pick and a career ECHLer.

Carolina gets to clear some space and cap.

Worst case scenario, neither Lack or Murphy achieve anything next year and move on in free agency. In which case Calgary is no farther behind than they were with Kanzig and a 6th rounder.

There might not be anything to get excited about in this deal, but there's nothing to talk trash about either

Lack had negative value.

Murphy had zero value.

Brad traded for nothing.

He could have gotten equal or better players for the same price in free agency for nothing.

Maybe he's doing Carolina a solid. I dunno.

 

[tmurfin]

this must be sarcasm, right?

Picking up a borderline NHL goalie, a borderline #7 dman and downgrading a 6th round pick into a 7th is killing it?

You're either joking, have low expectations or are stuck 4 years in the past where Lack is still decent and Murphy still has potential.

We got warm bodies for nothing and Canes cleared space. Win win

 

[Snakepit]

Lack had negative value.

Murphy had zero value.

Brad traded for nothing.

He could have gotten equal or better players for the same price in free agency for nothing.

Maybe he's doing Carolina a solid. I dunno.

He also gave nothing, so what's your criticism exactly?

 

[Bank Shot]

He also gave nothing, so what's your criticism exactly?

another good deal by Treliving.....they're killing it this off-season.

That part.

I don't see why he's getting praise for picking up two players that no one else wanted.

 

[tmurfin]

Lack had negative value.

Murphy had zero value.

Brad traded for nothing.

He could have gotten equal or better players for the same price in free agency for nothing.

Maybe he's doing Carolina a solid. I dunno.

Nothing? Flames got a goalie who can compete for the backup position, and either push our prospects to be better or shelter them for a year, and a warm body on D to compete for the 6/7 spot and help if/when injuries hit. And they gave up nothing, Kanzig is an ECHLer and a 6th to 7th is nothing.

Wouldn't say "killing it". But it's a solid unspectacular move for both teams

 

[Roboturner913]

Lack was a cap-dump by Carolina...one year left on his deal....the price was a young d-man in Murphy.....absolutely nothing coming back to the 'Canes from the Flames....another good deal by Treliving.....they're killing it this off-season.

Dude, it's pretty much the exact opposite of that. Murphy was somebody the Canes needed to get rid of, Lack at 50% retained was the price to do it. He can still be a solid NHL backup and is not that far removed from NHL success. Murphy has never had anything close to resembling success in the NHL and was not even really all that good in the AHL.

 

[Bank Shot]

Nothing? Flames got a goalie who can compete for the backup position, and either push our prospects to be better or shelter them for a year, and a warm body on D to compete for the 6/7 spot and help if/when injuries hit. And they gave up nothing, Kanzig is an ECHLer and a 6th to 7th is nothing.

Wouldn't say "killing it". But it's a solid unspectacular move for both teams

Flames got possibly the worst back up in the NHL over the last two seasons.

And a waiver wire pick up.

How is that solid?

I know why Carolina does it. They are trying to dump salary.
Seems like Calgary just picked up contracts for the sake of picking up contracts.