GDT: Car at Fla - Am I still on the hook for the GDT?

Boom Boom Apathy

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Not that it's their fault alone (Rask not clearing early, Lindholm's errors here), but that Jagr line is owning the Pesce/Hanifin pairing when they are out there against them.
 

raynman

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You better knock on some wood right ****ing now before one of them gets a career ending injury this game.

Will do, though bad luck generally doesn't seem to show up until someone mentions it.

Jesus that Tripp/Teuvo interview got super awkward when Tripp tried to compare Lindholm to Hossa haha.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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Too bad we didn't get Jagr a couple years ago when we thought that was a possibility. Heck, I'd still take him next year. Guy is amazing.
 

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Jagr never ceases to amaze me. I can't believe I'm still watching the player that I loved as kid hold his own at the age of 45. It's incredible.
 

cptjeff

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That seems like a lot of speculation. Stuff like that happens when you have a stick that is too short also, and also when it's the right size. He's made a move like that a bunch of times and very successfully but sometimes the puck gets away with every NHL player. It happens. Puck hit's a bump, you lose sight of it for a second, etc..

No, stuff like that doesn't happen when you have a stick that's too short. He couldn't make the move because he couldn't control the blade closer to his body. When you have a long stick, you have less room to pull your elbow back, which means your control gets much more limited the closer the puck gets to your feet, especially when you have a low lie like Aho does, which means only the tip of the blade is going to be on the ice close in, and it's easy for a puck to slip under. Less range of motion + only a fraction of the blade able to contact the puck = pucks slipping off of blades.

The standard rule is that the elbow for your top hand should be at a right angle to allow you the greatest range of motion pulling your blade back towards your feet or to reach forward. Most NHLers go for an obtuse angle, and use sticks much shorter in relation to their bodies than you would expect, because it allows them to handle pucks much closer to their feet, catching passes between their feet, close in stickhandling, etc. A long stick will handcuff you in those situations.

A long stick gives you reach, which allows you to catch pucks far from you, helps with takeaways, and makes it much easier to break up an opponent's stickwork on defense, and by giving you more leverage, gives you a harder shot. There certainly can be advantages to it- but when your top elbow is in that acute angle to start, there's only so much more room to close it, which means that your range of motion can get extremely limited when you have the puck close to your body.


Edit: I should add that what Aho is doing has certainly worked for him so far, and it's often better to just go with what you're used to, simply to avoid relearning the mechanics. But I do think it might be something for him to toy around with during the offseason.
 

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No, stuff like that doesn't happen when you have a stick that's too short. He couldn't make the move because he couldn't control the blade closer to his body. When you have a long stick, you have less room to pull your elbow back, which means your control gets much more limited the closer the puck gets to your feet, especially when you have a low lie like Aho does, which means only the tip of the blade is going to be on the ice close in, and it's easy for a puck to slip under. Less range of motion + only a fraction of the blade able to contact the puck = pucks slipping off of blades.

The standard rule is that the elbow for your top hand should be at a right angle to allow you the greatest range of motion pulling your blade back towards your feet or to reach forward. Most NHLers go for an obtuse angle, and use sticks much shorter in relation to their bodies than you would expect, because it allows them to handle pucks much closer to their feet, catching passes between their feet, close in stickhandling, etc. A long stick will handcuff you in those situations.

A long stick gives you reach, which allows you to catch pucks far from you, helps with takeaways, and makes it much easier to break up an opponent's stickwork on defense, and by giving you more leverage, gives you a harder shot. There certainly can be advantages to it- but when your top elbow is in that acute angle to start, there's only so much more room to close it, which means that your range of motion can get extremely limited when you have the puck close to your body.

Adam Oates, is that you:sarcasm:
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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No, stuff like that doesn't happen when you have a stick that's too short.

Sure it does. Ice gets chewed up, pucks bounce, guys lose the puck, pucks get in guys feet, etc... It's not limited to only guys with long sticks (no jokes :) )

The standard rule is that the elbow for your top hand should be at a right angle to allow you the greatest range of motion pulling your blade back towards your feet or to reach forward. Most NHLers go for an obtuse angle, and use sticks much shorter in relation to their bodies than you would expect, because it allows them to handle pucks much closer to their feet, catching passes between their feet, close in stickhandling, etc. A long stick will handcuff you in those situations.

Yep, I'm well aware of and understand the standard rule. I played hockey for 30 years and coached it for 10. I also know that the standard rule isn't 1 size fits all because not everybody's body and ability is the same. Arm lengths, torso length, flexibility, etc..can be quite a bit different for guys the same height. I prefer to play with a stick shorter than the standard rule because I'm more comfortable with that. Some players do well with shorter sticks, some don't. It's a guideline, not a firm rule.

I do recognize that a shorter stick can be more effective for in tight puck handling, not arguing that and not saying it isn't a contributor. My point is that watching a highlight and saying a "longer stick" was the cause of a bobbled puck is speculation.
 
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