Post-Game Talk: CAPTAIN MORGAN!!! | LEAFS WIN 4-3 IN OVERTIME

[CabanaBoy5]

One team that has to walk on egg shells while the other gets to play rockem sockem playoff hockey and this is just the way it is, nothing to see here...

This is so bang on. You can tell through parts of the third and OT that we were a bit tentative in our forecheck for fear that we were going to get a cheap call against us. On the other hand, Tampa got the message that they could do whatever they wanted and be able to get away with it. Bush league reffing again.

 

[willmma]

I feel like the Leafs thought they will get called and penalized for anything. They played a very safe game to avoid penalties.

Tampa thought they can be extra physical without being penalized.

That's how the game played out.

 

[Shooter2x]

Wanna be bold and start Woll ?

It won’t happen ?

And Sammy played amazing after the first.

He stopped pucks Woll wouldn’t have

Ilya has secured the crease indeed.

Like I said, remove Ilya from the game and game 3 goes down in history as a total shit show for O'Reilly and pretty much everyone because his late goal becomes meaningless after an overall massively mediocre game. I'm not too strict on xGF% in playoffs but if you're hanging out around 15-17% all game, then yes that's a red flag that needs to be investigated. They (line 3) were dominated for 90% of the game.

Matthews and Marner need to start owning possession. Yes, the zero results with 90% xGF the past few years was annoying, but xGF% is fool proof as a predictor. That high xGF meant that if we got out of round 1, Matthews and Marner would start putting up 1-3 points a game as the XGF normalizes.

Now it's the total opposite. They are underwhelming driving offence but racking up goals. So if we get out of round 1, the underwhelming will take over.


I hope this helps others who are trying to say the same thing as that but didn't find the right words and are getting bullied by the Marner homers because of it.

* I singled out xGF as a time saver, eye test is better for the underwhelming. Matthews is just doing cardio right now. There's no big money plays

 

[Dekes For Days]

Says the guy who said Nylanders points the past few years are deceptive to his total impact on the game relative to Matthews and Marner
gtfo, Most of the posts aren't trolling Marner. There's an explanation for the cause for concern. Some of us want 16 wins, not just 4.

Yes, says me, the guy who has been saying that looking exclusively at discrepancies in small sample playoff point totals can be deceiving for years, while the people now blasting the playoff leading scorer previously claimed that points are all that matter and Marner was trash because his point totals didn't live up to their expectations for reasons that they'll conveniently ignore.

Marner consistently brings it in the playoffs, and his underlying metrics are excellent as well. There are people here who didn't want to hear it and claimed points were perfectly representative when the points underrepresented Marner, but now are all too happy to talk about how the points are currently overrepresenting Marner. We all want 16 wins, not 4, and Marner will be a big part of that, not a "cause for concern".

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I blame you for game 1. Be better.

Don’t worry I’m not making anymore GDTs. We should be good from here on out.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Circumstantially Tampa comes back home after being curb stomped in game 2… they were going to respond tough.

The Leafs had trouble with that pace all night, unable to get up on the forecheck and missing passes.

But they did well in maintaining their overall composure, trying to slow the game down, and staying structured so they could grind it out.

Hopefully they have better legs tomorrow.

Nice to see Matthews get a goal.. but I was disappointed that he couldn’t use that as a jumping point to start dominating.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[al secord]

Don’t worry I’m not making anymore GDTs. We should be good from here on out.

The ghost of Darcy Tucker haunted us after being compared to Bunting. Wait, Tucker's still alive? I take that all back.

 

[Drytoast]

 

[NJG]

I am thrilled right now, but can't help but worry that Tampa was all over us most of the third period and OT, and we get two lucky goals to help us out.

Either way, up 2-1.

Many good teams who have won the cup have won games they shouldn't have won, or games they didn't play that great. That's what it takes to win. And that's what happens when two good teams play each other they will outplay you at times and you will outplay them at times, that's normal. You have to find ways to win when it's the other team's turn to outplay you.

 

[thewave]

Marner plays amazing but the pucks won't go in: He sucks, points are all that matter.
Marner plays amazing and leads the league in playoff scoring: Points are deceptive. Willy and his half as many points is carrying the offense.

After that trash win, they better look themselves in the mirror and start putting together strings of good shifts. We're the better team and so far have not performed like it. I am tired of Matthew and Marner and JT for that matter tossing stat padding lob shots on the net from a mile out. Vas is even letting some of that trash in right now.

Matthews is going to Alexander Semin v Stamkos? Marner with shots from 50ft out. Garbage dump in's all night long? That's a cup team? Keefe better learn to coach or get his team into a winning frame of mind because they ain't going anywhere playing like they did last night.

 

[stats1]

The optimistic thing is, there is no way we play that badly again. You take the W and run. You gotta think the team will be a lot better tomorrow. Imagine being up 3-1 heading home to finish it off… ohh baby

 

[Gary Nylund]

Not. Even. Close.

Go on, I'm listening.

That’s definitely true.

But we got schooled so bad in the second period. It’s not even funny. Tampa has imposed their will / game on us. They’ve dictated play.

When they scored, they changed the play again to preserve the lead.

The team that plays their game, usually wins.

Yeah that second period wasn't pretty. But hey, Sammy stood tall and in the end we did enough to win.

 

[Strangle]

I’m going to pick a random page and like every positive post on it in this thread!

It’s a celebration!!!

f*** it, 100 likes!

 

[thewave]

The optimistic thing is, there is no way we play that badly again. You take the W and run. You gotta think the team will be a lot better tomorrow. Imagine being up 3-1 heading home to finish it off… ohh baby

I hope that as well. If they can just play better than them 50% of the game, we've got the talent to win easily barring luck is on our side.

Like last night, what did we have like 10 shifts where we were pressuring? It was pretty bad.

 

[notDatsyuk]

For the record, Knies-O'Rielly-Nylander was together for just 1:13 at 5v5, they got outshot and out chanced, and Nylander didn't factor into the winning goal at all.
Nylander's questionable moments had nothing to do with Tavares.

Nylander played 20:33 at even strength, so according to you he played 19:20 with Tavares (and had 3 shots) and 1:13 with ROR and Knies (and had 3 shots), and set up the tying goal and was with them for the winning goal, but played worse with them.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Looks like the NHL picked the three stars at the end of the second period. Hagel and Raddysh as the second and third stars? No Samsonov?

I will freely admit that I did not think Schenn would be anywhere near as good as he has been.

Sammy with the steal, Willy with a job on the tying goal, ROR was excellent, and I don't know what to say about Knies.

JT after a very good game Thursday was back to normal.

 

[Dekes For Days]

After that trash win, they better look themselves in the mirror and start putting together strings of good shifts. We're the better team and so far have not performed like it.

Over the series at 5v5, we have the better expected goal share and equal goals.
Over the series in all situations, we have the better expected goal share and more goals.
We're up in the series 2-1, despite absolute clown show officiating and DOPS.
Looks like the better team to me.

I am tired of Matthew and Marner and JT for that matter tossing stat padding lob shots on the net from a mile out. Vas is even letting some of that trash in right now.

Yeah, how dare Matthews/Marner/Tavares keep scoring goals.

 

[SprDaVE]

Imma be real honest. I don't think I noticed him more than a couple times.

I guess he's doing something?

 

[Shooter2x]

Ilya has secured the crease indeed.

Like I said, remove Ilya from the game and game 3 goes down in history as a total shit show for O'Reilly and pretty much everyone because his late goal becomes meaningless after an overall massively mediocre game. I'm not too strict on xGF% in playoffs but if you're hanging out around 15-17% all game, then yes that's a red flag that needs to be investigated. They (line 3) were dominated for 90% of the game.

Matthews and Marner need to start owning possession. Yes, the zero results with 90% xGF the past few years was annoying, but xGF% is fool proof as a predictor. That high xGF meant that if we got out of round 1, Matthews and Marner would start putting up 1-3 points a game as the XGF normalizes.

Now it's the total opposite. They are underwhelming driving offence but racking up goals. So if we get out of round 1, the underwhelming will take over.


I hope this helps others who are trying to say the same thing as that but didn't find the right words and are getting bullied by the Marner homers because of it.

* I singled out xGF as a time saver, eye test is better for the underwhelming. Matthews is just doing cardio right now. There's no big money plays

*I'm not calling them out either. They will start. It's a guarantee. Those 2 and Nylander are the team.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

I've got to give credit to Keefe. He sees that we have something special in Knies. This is a kid who has had maybe one full practice with the team and he's on the ice in the last minute on the 6 on 5 and on the ice for the OT goal. Keefe also tried him out with Matthews and Marner. Keefe sees the things we see. Knies is not only a big body, but he has nifty puck skills, That move in the dying seconds of the 2nd period was elite. The confidence this kid has is off the charts to be doing these things in a pressure packed playoff against an elite experienced team.

 

[kb]

Hate to be Debbie downer I need more from mathews.
OReilly on the other hand wow he brings it
OReilly teach Mathews, Marner and Nylander that fire you have in your belly

I disagree. He played with purpose, he just didn't get the looks because TB is clamping down on him. Cirelli is his shadow everywhere.

 

[mcleex]

Anyone else feel like they've been hit by a truck?

All that adrenaline rush wearing off, I feel exhausted

I’m sure with how big this GDT is this was already posted but if not, lol enjoy

How did Dubas get a Tim Hortons coffee in Tampa

 

[napoleon in rags]

The Brayden Point melodrama brought this to mind...

 

[Dragao6]

Yes, says me, the guy who has been saying that looking exclusively at discrepancies in small sample playoff point totals can be deceiving for years, while the people now blasting the playoff leading scorer previously claimed that points are all that matter and Marner was trash because his point totals didn't live up to their expectations for reasons that they'll conveniently ignore.

Marner consistently brings it in the playoffs, and his underlying metrics are excellent as well. There are people here who didn't want to hear it and claimed points were perfectly representative when the points underrepresented Marner, but now are all too happy to talk about how the points are currently overrepresenting Marner. We all want 16 wins, not 4, and Marner will be a big part of that, not a "cause for concern".

This thinking is exactly why we have players that overpaid and why we also haven’t won a series in more then a decade

U think we can keep winning games like last night your dreaming but fingers crossed