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I believe all but a few of his assists this year have been primary assists. Steal of the draft.
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I believe all but a few of his assists this year have been primary assists. Steal of the draft.
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Nice….we could use some ruthless finishers fast….
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He made the extra touch to settle that down so fast, that was impressive.
Miro could have had 2-3 goals again tonight. Feels like every game it's been that way so far. He's a threat every shift he's on the ice. He's going to be a freaking stud. The way he backchecks is quite a nice look for his game too. Gibby played really well tonight, was impressed with him too. Didn't face much pressure until the third period but he was good when he needed to be and earned himself the bears head. Good job Gibby! Bears took 3 in 3 nights. Teams rounding out well already. So much depth.
Watched most of the bears game today. Miro does look good. Top 3 lines are set. Shuffling some guys on 4th line but they moved NAK to 4RW which i like. Both Caps and Bears like a strong 4th line. Across the weekend they had Rybinski, Hofer, Trienyev all played. Then you have Napvronic and Strome as well. And then of course Suzdalev. He really needs to go somewhere to play. And i agree with the earlier posts in that he should be in WHL. He will grow getting top minutes with kids who are still his peers.
Got some guys winning awards this week. Chase Clark finally getting a chance to play gets the Atlantic hockey goaltender of the week award after stopping 60/65 this weekend. Cristall got the WHL player of the week award after 9 points in three games. 1G and 8A. All 8A were primaries.
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He's turning out great, he really took the development stuff to heart.
You can see it in his highlights right now versus some of his film from last year, his skating is stronger and more aggressive and then he switches to that nifty edgework when he's started pushing people deeper in the zone, and it allows him room to make easier passes like the little backhand from the other day. It's not procedure anymore, it's a weapon to use. That's better as far as projecting him and a big step.
It's really exciting to have a prospect for whom the only real question mark was skating and... size, I guess, but not even really size. This is a guy who if that just keeps improving, and the strides so far (haha) are impressive for such a short period of time, could be really excellent
Haven't watched him at all but what's the ceiling for Cristall? Im getting Mitch Marner with less defense vibes, is that somewhat accurate?
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Wayne Gretzky.
(Just kidding, I don't know)
It is wild that guys passed on him because they didn't think an 18 year old could learn how to skate better.
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Defense and off puck play are still issues for Cristall I think from what I've seen. Not extreme issues but they're still not real strengths either. It was never just the skating but also all-around compete for a smaller player. Combine the two issues and it does often lead to slides. Nick Robertson is another recent example. Cristall is a bit more feisty and engaged at times now but still pretty junior-y to me from what I've seen. He dominates that level on the puck with his skill/IQ and it also helps that Kelowna looks to be deeper compared to a year ago.
It'll be interesting to see how he fares in presumably earning a WJC selection camp invite. You'd think he's got to be in an offensive role or else there's little use carrying him. But he could earn a spot as a 13th forward if he shows basic reliability and maturity. He's still kind of a Hollywood junior player IMO. Given that he'll most likely return to Kelowna again next year he'll need to work to a higher standard to make key pro strides. He's put in the work to get stronger but his game still seems pretty similar. It's improved thanks to getting to spots a bit easier but despite the production he could still be even better yet. He's on the right track to be sure but I'd still pump the brakes a bit in terms of where he's at, what he still needs to add and how high his pro potential is. He's still likely to be a pretty small one-way finesse talent on a team that sorely lacks defensive impact. That's still quite valuable potentially to have cheap production for a few years coming through the ranks along with Miro & Leonard. But ultimately his ability to earn a 18+ minute a night NHL role is probably going to come down to just how complete a competitor he decides to be.
It'll be interesting to see how he fares in presumably earning a WJC selection camp invite. You'd think he's got to be in an offensive role or else there's little use carrying him. But he could earn a spot as a 13th forward if he shows basic reliability and maturity. He's still kind of a Hollywood junior player IMO. Given that he'll most likely return to Kelowna again next year he'll need to work to a higher standard to make key pro strides. He's put in the work to get stronger but his game still seems pretty similar. It's improved thanks to getting to spots a bit easier but despite the production he could still be even better yet. He's on the right track to be sure but I'd still pump the brakes a bit in terms of where he's at, what he still needs to add and how high his pro potential is. He's still likely to be a pretty small one-way finesse talent on a team that sorely lacks defensive impact. That's still quite valuable potentially to have cheap production for a few years coming through the ranks along with Miro & Leonard. But ultimately his ability to earn a 18+ minute a night NHL role is probably going to come down to just how complete a competitor he decides to be.
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overly simplified view….as Langway points out….there’s plenty more there to improve.
There's certainly some things to work towards on his defensive side but given his IQ it really is about his compete level and how much better he wants to become in his own zone. The only thing holding him back is himself. We'll see how he develops over the next couple years but if the work he's put into his skating already is any indication of his compete level and dedication to improving then I think things are looking up. Tremendously lucky to get him in the 2nd round even if his defensive game doesn't really mature. He'll always be able to put points up on a scoring line.
Boy this prospect thread is more popular than usual, I wonder why 
Does anyone know what Caps prospects should be at the world Juniors this year? I fear we may need some good hockey in December.
Does anyone know what Caps prospects should be at the world Juniors this year? I fear we may need some good hockey in December.
Leonard has also been really good and press seems to love his game which has some edge to it. Chesley also playing very solid but lacking offensive numbers. Been deployed as first pair. Would like to see him turn pro and play in Hershey next year.
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Right but these issues should have dropped him to #10 or maaaaaybe #20 overall. Him dropping to #40 is insane, and great for us Caps fans!
In 5-6 years time we can finally decide whether advanced stats or the eye test is the best evaluator
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Early 20's is I think a fine beginning point. Benson didn't go until 13 and he was clearly the more well-rounded, superior talent. One has to go up the board to around 20 with Moore/Perreault to find a higher ceiling (at least factoring in positional value in Moore's case). That said, I doubt a winger triumvirate will be enough to steer things squarely back on the ascent so I'm not sure it's quite the robbery needed. Even if it's very strong value there's a limit how far wingers can drive them if they're still getting very suspect play at C/D. Maybe they get very fortunate in UFA over the next year or two and can sign a stud at C/D but it's hard to count on (a two-way stud top six center especially at the level needed).
In this year's draft they probably need to factor in positional value to some extent. Not overwhelmingly so but I would wonder an awful lot about stacking the wings further while the more crucial, heavy lifting positions look to sort of rot. While Leonard & Miro are both physical and industrious Ws those more crucial positions really need a standard bearer with the total package setting the tone all over the ice. Until they secure a stud to that degree it's hard to believe there's enough promise on the way. It's better than it has been for some time but it's at least partially offset by how daunting a task may be ahead of them in restructuring firmly enough
If they do suck this year maybe they're able to land someone of that magnitude. If it's something like Demidov vs. Dickinson/Levshunov/Silayev, though, I'd certainly lean blueline upside over a skilled wing. This isn't to discount Cristall, a very fine prospect with just the sort of upside they need in a quasi-rebuild situation. It's just that the way back up may be pretty steep.
Man completely forgot about Chesley and hadn't checked in on at least his statistical progress. First pairing though ultimately is great to see.
Is there a website with each teams prospects and their grades/potential?
Years ago, like 10, there was a site that had this but stopped updating back when Kuzy was a prospect.
Years ago, like 10, there was a site that had this but stopped updating back when Kuzy was a prospect.
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Elite Prospects is cool.
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Andrew Cristall - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Andrew Cristall, 2005-02-04 Vancouver, BC, CAN Canada. Most recently in the WHL with Kelowna Rockets. Complete player biography and stats.
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Why are you so butthurt about something that is very conventional, stuck out, and was true? All Cristall seemed to talk about was increasing the strength and drive of his lower body this offseason courtesy of the Caps' camp staff, and it's paying off.
You can moan about it all you like but Cristall was a lateral East-West skater that rode his edges a lot and left himself open to being trucked, a problem when you don't have elite wheels, and they've made a concentrated effort to improve that... he's no longer producing in spite of that draft profile, because they're developing the player and he's looking better in the areas they want to see.
Can't always teach that though, so of course other teams took other players. Sometimes kids actually can't learn how to skate better.
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To be fair I'm not butthurt, and that's because the Capitals got him. My butt is feeling really good right now!
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