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Prospect Info: Caps Top Prospects General Discussion Thread Vol. 2 - 2021-22

AlexBrovechkin8 said:
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He's on the 1st line in the K.

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Is he really getting top line minutes? 2 points in 12 games is a bit underwhelming if he is seeing a fair amount of ice time
 
It’s going to take time with Miro and I like how they have deployed him this year. First in juniors, then in next level then limited duty in KHL. He is improving and growing. Missed a lot of games and he needs to get a lot of games. Keep progressing young man!

I still think he will play next year in KHL as well which i have no problem with. Will be in North America at 20 after playing almost 2 years with men in KHL.
 
DWGie26 said:
It’s going to take time with Miro and I like how they have deployed him this year. First in juniors, then in next level then limited duty in KHL. He is improving and growing. Missed a lot of games and he needs to get a lot of games. Keep progressing young man!

I still think he will play next year in KHL as well which i have no problem with. Will be in North America at 20 after playing almost 2 years with men in KHL.
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Good that they're taking some time with him, but I hope Ovie still has a couple years left in the tank when he comes over. What an experience that would be for the kid.
 
DWGie26 said:
It’s going to take time with Miro and I like how they have deployed him this year.
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Definitely. And it's this kind of play that makes me really optimistic about Miro. That's an intelligent, savvy move, letting the puck drift an extra second to allow the D to clear, opening up a clean passing lane to the doorstep. If he plays the puck right away, the D can take a whack at it and that opportunity vanishes.

He's showing the right kind of talent to translate to the NHL. Suzdalev is lighting it up, but in a much more "man among boys" kind of way like Burakovsky did at a similar point in his development. Nice to see, but not a lock to translate to the next level.
 


Hofer headed to Memorial Cup host Kamloops along with Zellweger.
 
I'm still not convinced with him. For me he is just too small to be generational player, he is shown as 5´9 but as they always add bonus to them, he is likely 5'8 or even 5'7. Next Patrick Kane sure, superbly talented one way offensive player with little to no defense, sign me in.
 
Peeri said:
I'm still not convinced with him. For me he is just too small to be generational player, he is shown as 5´9 but as they always add bonus to them, he is likely 5'8 or even 5'7. Next Patrick Kane sure, superbly talented one way offensive player with little to no defense, sign me in.
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I see your point, but he's built quite robustly so that might not be a problem. I expect him to end up somewhere around 200 lbs.
 
Peeri said:
I'm still not convinced with him. For me he is just too small to be generational player, he is shown as 5´9 but as they always add bonus to them, he is likely 5'8 or even 5'7. Next Patrick Kane sure, superbly talented one way offensive player with little to no defense, sign me in.
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Eh. He's taller than 5'7''. He's generational in the sense that he's the best prospect since Matthews. Beyond that is probably a stretch. He's basically Matthews & Marner rolled into one offensively. And, like Marner, he's got time to figure out the defensive end. The tools are shy of McDavid but the offensive toolbox is pretty elite.

Durability could be an issue. We'll see. He won't have the same room and ease manipulating defenders but he's also not a finished product. And you'd take your chances with that elite a release and overall dynamic offensive impact.
 
Langway said:
Eh. He's taller than 5'7''. He's generational in the sense that he's the best prospect since Matthews. Beyond that is probably a stretch. He's basically Matthews & Marner rolled into one offensively. And, like Marner, he's got time to figure out the defensive end. The tools are shy of McDavid but the offensive toolbox is pretty elite.

Durability could be an issue. We'll see. He won't have the same room and ease manipulating defenders but he's also not a finished product. And you'd take your chances with that elite a release and overall dynamic offensive impact.
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I think it's hard to call someone generational when it's not clear what position he'll play in the NHL. Some think he'll be a center, others think he doesn't have the size or strength and will eventually find a home on the wing. He seems a lock to be a 100+ point guy, a perennial All-Star, and a great building block but is he a Crosby, McDavid, or Ovechkin? Remains to be seen. Pretty high and near impossible bar for someone to hurdle.

It's also harder to be generational as a wing than it is as a center since you have a lesser impact on the game. I think it's right that he's a generational talent and I think he's certainly capable of rivaling or surpassing McDavid as the best player of his era (like Sid vs Ovi) but he's got questions to answer about his size/strength and position. If he's a wing he'll already start at a disadvantage in many people's opinions (which probably don't count for much).
 
"Generational" is overused. McDavid is clearly head and shoulders above all of his peers. So yeah. The bananas thing about Ovi/Sid is that they both are legitimately generational talents who by some miracle came into the league at the exact same time. (Who knows where Sid would be on the all-time lists if he were more durable.) But I don't think you can say that about someone before they have even played a game in the Bigs. Lots of kids who should be great flame out or just don't ever meet expectations. There's so many factors beyond the tools/toolbox they come with: durability, emotional maturity, coachability, drive/competitiveness, psychology, and on and on. Potential may be generational, but actual generational talent IMO is a function of hindsight in many ways. Remember, people said 99 was too small to survive the NHL. And the game as it was played then broke Lindros, and now he's a footnote.
 
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Calicaps said:
"Generational" is overused. McDavid is clearly head and shoulders above all of his peers. So yeah. The bananas thing about Ovi/Sid is that they both are legitimately generational talents who by some miracle came into the league at the exact same time. (Who knows where Sid would be on the all-time lists if he were more durable.) But I don't think you can say that about someone before they have even played a game in the Bigs. Lots of kids who should be great flame out or just don't ever meet expectations. There's so many factors beyond the tools/toolbox they come with: durability, emotional maturity, coachability, drive/competitiveness, psychology, and on and on. Potential may be generational, but actual generational talent IMO is a function of hindsight in many ways. Remember, people said 99 was too small to survive the NHL. And the game as it was played then broke Lindros, and now he's a footnote.
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This!! Bedard is the best player in the last couple of drafts. He is not McDavid, OV, Sid who are true generational players. But yeah, he’ll be good.
 
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