Prospect Info: Caps Top Prospects General Discussion Thread Vol. 2 - 2021-22

[usiel]

Four or five they're primarily interested in at 20, both forwards and defensemen. A winger that can score and potential PP defenseman were isolated out as organizational priorities. Of the D then you'd think that's mainly Mateychuk in that range. That's not per se the strong suit of a Bichsel or Pickering. Then the best scoring wingers are probably Yurov, Kulich, Ohgren & McGroarty. There's Lambert, Miro, Howard, Snuggerud & Firkus a little later but I'm not sure they'd be prime options all-around. Mostly I'd wager it coming down to Mateychuk, Yurov, Kulich or Ohgren then. I don't think they should altogether rule out Gaucher or Ostlund if available given their defensive instincts but it does seem like offensive upside will be a priority.

Edit: Then at 46 if they were to lose out on Mateychuk maybe the PPQB need could be filled with Havelid, Hutson, Luneau ,Casey or Nelson, All but Hutson are righties. Top goal-scoring options for the second round could be Lorenz, Lutz, Trikozov, Lund, Ingram, Perevalov, Goyette or DBB.

Would be nice to get a legit dman with legit PP skills but certainly doesn't feel like that at 20 at least. 2nd round might have some options with some players that are good at the PP side but maybe some question marks where they are on their own zone.

My personal hope for the first round pick is a center or goal scoring winger.

I'm finding Perevalov and Trikozov intriguing.

 

[Random schmoe]

I'm a big believer in drafting Best Player Available, regardless of position. You can always trade from positions of strength to shore up weaknesses down the road.

 

[Cush]

Tryamkin's Final 2022 Draft Rankings Guide (Top 225, Goalies and Sleepers)

Hey guys, here's my final draft rankings for this upcoming draft. I had a lot more time this year to watch junior hockey and have included a full list like previous years. I have writeups for the first round and my top 225 skaters that I have projected to be drafted. Below that I've included...

hfboards.mandatory.com

 

[Cush]

Capitals Must Use 2022 NHL Draft To Restock Prospect Pipeline - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

It feels as though the Washington Capitals are inching towards a rebuild. Brian MacLellan must use his draft assets wisely as a result.

thehockeywriters.com

3 Capitals Targets with 46th Overall Pick of 2022 NHL Draft - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Following another early postseason exit, the Washington Capitals must use their second round pick wisely at the 2022 NHL Entry Draft.

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5 Capitals Targets with 20th-Overall Pick of 2022 NHL Draft - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More

The Washington Capitals should have plenty of viable options available to them with the 20th pick in the 2022 NHL Draft.

thehockeywriters.com

 

[Silky mitts]

That person must post on HF

Not to have a Fin play for a team since 2008-09 is wild. That has to be the longest an NHL team has gone without playing someone from one of the five major nations. Can’t imagine another team gas gone 13+ seasons without icing a player from Finland, Sweden, Russia, Canada, or the US.

Only 5% of the NHL is Finnish, average of 1 per team, can’t be that odd

 

[Langway]

FWIW. Pronman and some other sources have linked the two at 16 previously, although Pronman doesn't have him there in his final mock. Three first round picks makes that a pretty calculated risk for BUF. Makes sense.

It's beginning to look a lot like Mateychuk. If one equates him alongside some of those prime goal-scoring wingers like Kulich & Ohgren then they must believe he's more than a limited #5 type PPQB. Otherwise you could just bypass him and focus on the relatively safe goal-scorers. Plus, at 46 it seems more likely there will be secondary PPQB types available compared to goal-scorers. So something must intrigue them and rightfully so. I don't think he's terribly far behind Mintyukov & Korchinski. He's just smaller. He did get exposed defensively in the Winnipeg playoff series but the whole team was overmatched. They didn't have the collective pace and depth to hang and got picked apart. There were some concerning elements positionally but given the limited games played and everything else I'm not sure I'd let one playoff series alter projections too heavily.

Always possible they may just be massive Owen Pickering fans instead but, uh, hopefully not. He's a big project athletically and that's a longer ETA probably. He's not a Chabot or Sanheim type athlete or much of a transitional type to where his pure physical tools suggest a really quick twitch monster jump is pending. Primarily in the first round I'm looking for a high degree of fundamental consistency, strong all-around reading of the game and plus athleticism. It's mainly why Yurov & Mateychuk top the list for me realistically. Ostlund in time could get there with more strength but it's enough of a factor to wonder a bit. Kulich & Ohgren could but ranking them vs. a Mateychuk is tough. Just how dynamic are they offensively beyond goal-scoring? How good defensively?

Yurov, Mateychuk, Kulich, Ohgren, Gaucher & Ostlund then would be my final primary short list. Lambert & Miroshnichenko seem more like trade down considerations. McGroarty's skating is outwardly enough for me to opt elsewhere. If Gaucher & Ostlund are top 15 types then it seems like Mateychuk, Kulich & Ohgren will be the primary candidates. That's maybe the most appealing floor group then in many years.

 

[Cush]

Somewhat related:

Wild's Kirill Kaprizov remains in Russia amid reports of fake military ID, flight to U.S.

Wild GM Bill Guerin told The Athletic that Kaprizov has not returned to the U.S., contrary to reports.

theathletic.com

 

[Langway]

I don't know if that last quote is a reasonable conclusion to draw just yet and so I'm not sure it's applicable to the draft. Is there something just stemming from CSKA-related players afoot? Or is it more widespread? I don't think there's evidence pointing to the later so far. It may get there but to this point I don't think it has.

 

[trick9]

Only 5% of the NHL is Finnish, average of 1 per team, can’t be that odd

It's not really odd if you didn't even have a scout there until 2020.

The fact that you didn't even have a scout there during 2010-2019 is more stupid than odd given there has been lots of talent coming in from Finland in the recent drafts.

 

[Langway]

It's not really odd if you didn't even have a scout there until 2020.

The fact that you didn't even have a scout there during 2010-2019 is more stupid than odd given there has been lots of talent coming in from Finland in the recent drafts.

It's unlikely they had zero presence there over that time period. They have a couple crossover European scouts that travel around. Now they employ a Finn but certainly he takes in more games than just there.

 

[trick9]

It's unlikely they had zero presence there over that time period. They have a couple crossover European scouts that travel around. Now they employ a Finn but certainly he takes in more games than just there.

It's still far different to have crossover European scouts visit there here and then as opposed to having someone based there for most of the season.

 

[Langway]

I don't think it's overly common to have that level of specificity. Scouting staffs don't tend to be that huge and it comes at the expense of having much overall input outside of one league. They historically also haven't employed a Russian scout either and it hasn't stopped them from drafting them frequently. Higher profile talents are typically involved in international events and the like so it's not like they're hiding and haven't been seen. Or that there isn't video if need be in a lot of cases. Maybe not having one dedicated to watching their junior league specifically makes it less likely that there's real conviction about a Finn but that's still ultimately more about overall tendencies than views/presence.

 

[Hivemind]

When I looked thru teams' scouting staffs in 2019, only four other teams didn't have a Finnish scout.

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Only 5% of the NHL is Finnish, average of 1 per team, can’t be that odd

If there’s an average of 1 per team and one team hasn’t had one in 14 years then yeah, it seems like it’s a bit odd. If I get bored later I’ll go through rosters and see the longest streak outside of Washington just because I’m now curious.

 

[um]

It's not really odd if you didn't even have a scout there until 2020.

The fact that you didn't even have a scout there during 2010-2019 is more stupid than odd given there has been lots of talent coming in from Finland in the recent drafts.

I didn't know that, that's crazy.

How do you not have a Scout in a top 5 hockey country?!?!?

 

[Langway]

It's not really odd if you didn't even have a scout there until 2020.

The fact that you didn't even have a scout there during 2010-2019 is more stupid than odd given there has been lots of talent coming in from Finland in the recent drafts.

Actually looks like they did up until 2016:

Petri Skriko at eliteprospects.com

Eliteprospects.com staff profile of Petri Skriko, 1962-03-13 Karhula, FIN Finland.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[Random schmoe]

Color me surprised.

My guess is that he gets picked again.

Boy, I really suck at this.

Well, at least Hershey (likely) gets to keep him.

 

[Cush]

edit: wrong thread

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

So who do we have to follow in college hockey next year? I assume I am missing someone but I think it's Ryan Chesley - Minnesota, David Gucciardi - Michigan State, Mitchell Gibson - Harvard, and Brent Johnson - North Dakota.

 

[YellowPanda]

Does anyone know when they will release the Development Camp roster?

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Does anyone know when they will release the Development Camp roster?

Today. Dev Camp starts tomorrow.

Edit: I stand corrected, roster released tomorrow (Monday) morning.

 

[DWGie26]

 

[Random schmoe]

Undrafted UND defenseman Ethan Frisch is apparently confirmed as coming. He of course plays with Caps 2021 3rd rounder Brent Johnson, so I'll bet the team has had several good looks at him.

Defenseman and alternate captain Ethan Frisch will participate with the Washington Capitals. Frisch, who is entering his senior season, is coming off of a strong junior year. Frisch scored nine goals and tallied 15 points in 36 games, becoming a force on UND's power play.

Five undrafted UND players to participate in NHL development camps

Mark Senden, Ethan Frisch, Louis Jamernik, Chris Jandric and Riese Gaber will get a look from NHL teams at camps this summer.

www.grandforksherald.com

 

[John Price]

 

[trick9]

Peter Laviolette trying out?

Backstrom -replacement maybe?