Prospect Info: Caps Top Prospects General Discussion Thread Vol. 2 - 2021-22

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Yeah... don't see any Russians drafted in the first-round.
Mintyukov will still go pretty high. Maybe the other two are impacted but I'm not so sure. They're both close to top ten talents when healthy. You've got teams drafting 20-32 that either have historically shown little aversion to Russian players or others with multiple picks that may figure it's still worth the risk given what else they've got in the bag. I think Trikozov, Perevalov and others may be more likely to be impacted.
 
I dont think teams will shy away from Russian players. Very few players are ready to play in NHL right away anyway. They will need a few years by which time hopefully things will settle down. I dont see teams passing up on obvious talent just because they may not be able to get to NA right away.
 

“I think a lot of us are worried,” MacLellan said during March’s NHL general managers meetings in Manalapan, Fla. “I don’t know that anybody knows what’s going to happen. Hopefully there’s a resolution by then, a peaceful resolution, but you never know what could happen. I mean, they could be asked to stay or forced to stay or just there’s all kinds of outcomes that could happen.

“I think there’s a lot of questions but no answers.”

But like all NHL teams, MacLellan had no right — contractually or otherwise — to prevent his players from leaving.

“It’s tough,” MacLellan said. “It’s up to them.”
 
I’m not a prospect guy but from what I’m reading Mateychuk would be a huge steal at #20. A lot of stats people have him as a top 6-8 player in this draft with a very high ceiling whose stock might fall because of size.

If he’s available at #20 that would really make me hesitate trading this year’s pick. It would need to be a slam dunk trade for a #1C or something.

Other players could slide but it seems like he’s the most likely to be this year’s Alex DeBrincat.

This will probably be the most interesting draft day for a Washington fan in many years. I’d be shocked if something interesting doesn’t go down.
 
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This Thursday/Friday draft thing gonna be weird.

As much as this draft is maybe panned at the top-end, I don't know that there's a great deal of separation between 1 and 25 per se. It's not a complete jumble. We have a pretty idea of the first dozen or so that should be off the board first. But ultimately a couple years down the line I don't doubt there are star players that go 15-40 that outperform some of the earlier picks. It's bound to happen.

Not a great year to have an early pick. Not a bad year to have many picks. At 20 they're bound to have a potential star level player talent available. It's a matter of how refined and well-rounded they already are and how dynamic they can be. Some will require more work than others but there's a lot to work with in this class. Mateychuk & Yurov are as close to plug-and-play as you're likely to get in that range most years. Others will need to clean some things up or bulk up to make the jump but aren't terribly far off.
 
Ohgren’s father, Andreas, is a well-respected strength and conditioning coach, who has worked with notable NHL players, including Nicklas Backstrom, Marcus Johansson and Andre Burakovsky. His son was able to keep pace with older SHL players and was noticeably stronger on the puck and in battles in 25 games this season with Djurgardens IF, despite just two points (1-1).
 
 
Lol, I always thought about asking, but never got around to it


Do the Caps not have Finnish scouts? Their aversion to drafting/signing/acquiring Finns is so odd. – Chris D.

The Caps keep the details of their scouting staff close to the vest but I know this: They’ve expanded their amateur staff in recent years and they’ve got a Finn, Matti Lamberg, listed on their website.

I have a hard time believing the Caps intentionally avoid Finns. But it’s been a while. In 2008-09, Washington had TWO suit up for a few games: Oskar Osala, the team’s fourth-round pick in 2006, played two games and Sami Lepisto, a third-round pick in 2004, appeared in seven. None since, to my knowledge.
 
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Caps didn't have a Finnish scout 3 years ago. Matti Lamberg must be a recent hire.
Hired in 2020.


Gaucher & Ostlund top 15. Reid Schaefer has a relatively high floor but at 20 is a significant reach. It's also not like a couple of best forward prospects aren't former WHLers whose main attribute is their size. Schaefer is a better prospect than Protas/Leason but not by much and not to the point where his profile is desperately prioritized. Explosiveness hasn't been a concern for the Caps typically--as with those two picks--but selecting him over Yurov/Mateychuk/Ohgren/McGroarty/Lambert would be rough given the relatively modest upside. I have him as an early second rounder due to floor/defense/work ethic but his perceived safety is likely overstated. It's not like he can't miss. Ultimately he seems like a Nick Paul type winger, which carries value but to prioritize that over a more dynamic producer would be befuddling. Pickering has also been mentioned often for the Caps by Pronman and I think I'd be more open to that than Schaefer. A massive growth spurt with elements of smaller player talent in a developing large defenseman at least would show some ambition. I don't know about his instincts playing to that size or his IQ against high pace so much but it's something. Both still smack of a Generic WHLer Autosim.

IMO if it's not one of those five or Kulich/Bichsel/Nazar I'll be disappointed from an upside standpoint. Yurov & Mateychuk are legit top 15 talents.

Edit: Miro goes 31 to Tampa. He does seem more likely to slide and I'd get it. But, again, the Caps need to think about this pick primarily as an asset. Don't overthink it. Swing for the fences.
 
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Hired in 2020.


Gaucher & Ostlund top 15. Reid Schaefer has a relatively high floor but at 20 is a significant reach. It's also not like a couple of best forward prospects aren't large former WHLers whose main attribute is their size. Schaefer is a better prospect than Protas/Leason but not by much and not to the point where his profile is desperately prioritized. Explosiveness hasn't been a concern for the Caps typically--as with those two picks--but selecting him over Yurov/Mateychuk/Ohgren/McGroarty/Lambert would be rough given the relatively modest upside. I have him as an early second rounder due to floor/defense/work ethic but his perceived safety is likely overstated. It's not like he can't miss. Ultimately he seems like a Nick Paul type winger, which carries value but to prioritize that over a more dynamic producer would be befuddling. Pickering has also been mentioned often for the Caps by Pronman and I think I'd be more open to that than Schaefer. A massive growth spurt with elements of smaller player talent in a developing large defenseman at least would show some ambition. I don't know about his instincts playing to that size or his IQ against high pace so much but it's something.

IMO if it's not one of those five or Kulich, Bichsel or Nazar I'll be disappointed from an upside standpoint.

Edit: Miro goes 31 to Tampa. He does seem more likely to slide and I'd get it. But, again, the Caps need to think about this pick primarily as an asset. Don't overthink it. Swing for the fences.
Yeah would not be a fan of that Shaefer pick there. Going through Pronman's prospect ranking list either was not really a fan of either. Will be interesting to see which prognosticator wins out the most.
 
Lol, I always thought about asking, but never got around to it

That person must post on HF :laugh:

Not to have a Fin play for a team since 2008-09 is wild. That has to be the longest an NHL team has gone without playing someone from one of the five major nations. Can’t imagine another team gas gone 13+ seasons without icing a player from Finland, Sweden, Russia, Canada, or the US.
 


Four or five they're primarily interested in at 20, both forwards and defensemen. A winger that can score and potential PP defenseman were isolated out as organizational priorities. Of the D then you'd think that's mainly Mateychuk in that range. That's not per se the strong suit of a Bichsel or Pickering. Then the best scoring wingers are probably Yurov, Kulich, Ohgren & McGroarty. There's Lambert, Miro, Howard, Snuggerud & Firkus a little later but I'm not sure they'd be prime options all-around. Mostly I'd wager it coming down to Mateychuk, Yurov, Kulich or Ohgren then. I don't think they should altogether rule out Gaucher or Ostlund if available given their defensive instincts but it does seem like offensive upside will be a priority.

Edit: Then at 46 if they were to lose out on Mateychuk maybe the PPQB need could be filled with Havelid, Hutson, Luneau ,Casey or Nelson, All but Hutson are righties. Top goal-scoring options for the second round could be Lorenz, Lutz, Trikozov, Lund, Ingram, Perevalov, Goyette or DBB.
 
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20. Washington Capitals: Jiri Kulich, C, Karlovy Vary (Czech)

The Capitals could go defense here, but it would be hard to pass up the reigning MVP of the IIHF world under-18 championship, with nine goals in the tournament. This would make the third time in four years they drafted a center.

They have Yurov at #27 (Phoenix) and Miroshnichenko at 31 (Tampa)
 

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