Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2023 Off-season

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Just on top of my head some names that might move, or have been in discussions through last months...

Adam Henrique
Elias Lindholm
Byfield (just for Twabby)
Logan Couture
Tomas Hertl
Anthony Duclair
J.T. Miller
Brock Boeser
Conor Garland
Clayton Keller
Nick Schmaltz
Mark Scheifele
Joel Farabee
Jake DeBrusk
Victor Olofsson
William Nylander

Id figure its a waiting game right now. None of these teams are in a rush to make a bad deal.

Wasn't there Hertl talk or was that just us speculating around here? Didn't he sign long term extension?
 

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Would you do that trade if you were Calgary?

I mean... is that 2nd round pick enough to get rid of Mantha without retention? Maybe, maybe not. I think it might be just enough for some team to take him. I don't think Calgary would.

That leaves the trade with Lindholm for McMichael. That's just silly. McMichael at this stage of his career value-wise is closer to hitting the waivers than value of Elias Lindholm.
I think the initial question is what's the added motivation for CGY selling Lindholm now as opposed to the deadline? Is it getting a particular ask or turning the page and not having distractions? If it's also to do a soft tank then a package like this could have appeal where part the value added is detonating their roster. Obviously they'd prefer a first to a second (or two) but I doubt CGY gets a significantly better prospect back for a pending UFA. Maybe they get a late first if they hold firm and are willing to wait. It's possible Lindholm could be one of the top rentals at the deadline. But McMichael IMO does have utility still as a middle six 5v5 producer to the point where he's not yet marginal value. More analytically-inclined organizations rightly should probably target him given some of their other recent change of scenery performances. I'd struggle to believe CGY would land a better C prospect. Even if they hold firm on their ask you're looking at a late first as the best asset and in any given year it's not necessarily a better player than McMichael. It's one they'd be able to select for themselves and groom but nonetheless...

The Caps may need to think about including 77 instead of 39. The clock is ticking on 77 I think with Wilson extended and various wings ready before too long. A x-19-77 third line also seems questionable. 19 centering any middle six line realistically seems like it may lack firmness. And 77 surely still retains positive value, particularly for a team looking for leadership or open to retaining to flip.

The Caps shouldn't trade their first for this level player I don't think. Any trade will be complicated by the cap with every competitive team needing to make it dollar-in, dollar-out. MacLellan making a deal probably would be easier if he had already dumped Mantha during the initial buyout period. Now he may need to find a team that has some degree of interest and with a guy like Tatar still needing a spot that may be unrealistic unless he shows a pulse early in the season.
 

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Pagnotta says he wants to stay in Calgary but it shooting for 9mX8y on his next deal. Too rich for him, don't want.
 

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Still think it's Lindholm and the hold up is Calgary wanting to re-sign him. Does Mantha, McMichael and a 2nd get it done? Is that more appealing than a late first and likely lesser prospect at the deadline?

I doubt a 23 year-old with upside ala Sandin is available at a relatively convenient price. Even Lindholm may not move as Calgary continues to try to get a deal done and make it work. The only other name that comes to mind that was supposed to move and hasn't is Scheifele but perhaps buying out Wheeler was enough change for them. They're trying but there's basically zero buzz at this point in the off-season. I can't think of any other teams on the record as actively looking make trades with any urgency. You never know but I wouldn't expect anything over the next five weeks at least. They've got assets at some point but most GMs seem to be in vacation mode.
Philadelphia is who I’m still looking at. I’d love to take a run at Konecny.
 
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Just on top of my head some names that might move, or have been in discussions through last months...

Adam Henrique
Elias Lindholm
Byfield (just for Twabby)
Logan Couture
Tomas Hertl
Anthony Duclair
J.T. Miller
Brock Boeser
Conor Garland
Clayton Keller
Nick Schmaltz
Mark Scheifele
Joel Farabee
Jake DeBrusk
Victor Olofsson
William Nylander

Id figure its a waiting game right now. None of these teams are in a rush to make a bad deal.
I’d add the Flyers forwards, assuming they are either healthy (Atkinson) or available (Konecny)
 

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Wasn't there Hertl talk or was that just us speculating around here? Didn't he sign long term extension?
Yes he did. 7yrs at 8.137m per. With an NMC. As much as he’d be great, I think that ship sailed.

Konecny so the guy I keep coming back to. He’s got 2yrs left, and 5.5m per. We’d have to deal Mantha and futures.

Is 24 1st, any 2nd, and say Lapierre enough?

Would that even make sense to anyone?
 

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Would that even make sense to anyone?
I'd pass given what's on the way between Leonard and Miro. A left shot or someone that can also play center makes more sense. Or a legit stabilizing LD but that seemingly isn't a priority.

They should keep their standards very high as far as wingers go. Otherwise they ought to be able to have solutions internally with some patience. Better to save at that position and invest more freely at C/D if they want a legit chance of making noise at some point in the playoffs.
 
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I'd pass given what's on the way between Leonard and Miro. A left shot or someone that can also play center makes more sense. Or a legit stabilizing LD but that seemingly isn't a priority.

They should keep their standards very high as far as wingers go. Otherwise they ought to be able to have solutions internally with some patience. Better to save at that position and invest more freely at C/D if they want a legit chance of making noise at some point in the playoffs.
Hmmmm. I’m thinking about what BMac is trying it do. We truly don’t need another C *for this season*, unless Kuznetsov is headed OUT. Which I don’t see happening. I think it’ll be Mantha.

Which means?

Or do you think it’s Kuz they are dangling?
 

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Hmmmm. I’m thinking about what BMac is trying it do. We truly don’t need another C *for this season*, unless Kuznetsov is headed OUT. Which I don’t see happening. I think it’ll be Mantha.

Which means?

Or do you think it’s Kuz they are dangling?
My tea leaves say that Mac would prefer to move Kuz and Mantha if he gets good enough offers, but I agree Anthony is probably more likely to get dealt.
 

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Given uncertainty around Backstrom it makes sense to add someone that would at least be a capable top six C replacement in a pinch. Not necessarily someone that dislodges 19 or 92 per se but versatility that offers insurance at the position. Hence Lindholm. He's not ideal but he is good at faceoffs and he can score.

Presumably they're shopping something like Mantha++ but to add all that much it needs to be more than a change of scenery type. Otherwise they ought to just wait and see how it plays out. Maybe Carbery is able to get more out of him? Who knows. As much as they'd like to strengthen their chances it may be worthwhile to see how various fits work out and then strategize more aggressively as they have a firmer sense of what they have in practice. Unless they're convinced it's not workable with Mantha...in which case they (again) probably should have just dumped him when they had the opportunity.
 
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Would people be more annoyed if Edmundson player 2 games or 82?
Oh easily 82, because that means if he actually performed they didn't trade him at the deadline.

Of course if they're genuinely competing maybe that's okay but if we're just gambling on probabilities, short of a full return to form I'd expect he'llk be somewhere between injured a lot and not great.

So yeah, if he manages to go 82 games I don't think that will be a win overall. Especially if it's due to coaching bias, although I don't expect that to be the case here.
 

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I wouldn't mind him playing 82 decent games on the third pairing whilst mentoring guys like Fever, AA, Sandin etc. Not sure if he's a mentor type but there might be a little bit of Orpik in there.
I'd rather he play however many games until the trade deadline and then he can finish up his season elsewhere.
 
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Aktell surprisingly gets a mention. For all of the handwringing over Jones this may be another intriguing option in the mix. Edmundson will probably have to play his way out of the lineup, of course, but they already have a number of alternatives if need be.
 

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HHA, Nemec, Kulich, Nikishin and Safonov.

It's qualified as the most NHL-ready so no Reinbacher or Michkov, though Reinbacher probably should still be on it. HHA is a bit older as well but it's noteworthy nonetheless. He had a 71% goal share last year and you wonder if he kills it in camp if he won't force a decision (despite being waiver-exempt).
 
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Aktell surprisingly gets a mention. For all of the handwringing over Jones this may be another intriguing option in the mix. Edmundson will probably have to play his way out of the lineup, of course, but they already have a number of alternatives if need be.
Totally forgot about Hardy Häman Aktell.
 
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