Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2023 Off-season

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Just heard Friedman indicate that there will be some players not qualified tomorrow that will cause shock in the market.

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I’m confused. LOL

 

[Calicaps]

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Not sure if this is why you reposted the Bowling Green pic, but BMac has the same smirk in that one and the photo in the tweet. LOL

 

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Just heard Friedman indicate that there will be some players not qualified tomorrow that will cause shock in the market.


I’m confused. LOL

Ohhh free dumpster dives, I expect the Caps will grab one or two.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Ohhh free dumpster dives, I expect the Caps will grab one or two.

BMac on Saturday

 

[Langway]

Just heard Friedman indicate that there will be some players not qualified tomorrow that will cause shock in the market.

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Not sure who would cause shock. Troy Terry would. Vince Dunn. Trent Frederic. Not much else that might be in danger due to arbitration raises that moves the needle you'd think.

 

[Holtbyisms]

I said it last night... really getting the feeling were running it back when a few Hershey guys added to the mix. Like I've said since we started the "retool". We just don't have the right assets to do it. Our cupboard is mostly bare and our cap is maxed with bad contracts and entitled vets. That's a bad combination to try and build a winner in a hurry. I guess all we can hope for is that Carbery sparks some of the vets for a last hurrah and guys like Protas, McMichael, Malenstyn and Lujo can play valuable minutes. Even at that were a playoff bubble team unless Ovi has another MVP season left in him somewhere and Backstrom is miraculously recovered.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

I said it last night... really getting the feeling were running it back when a few Hershey guys added to the mix. Like I've said since we started the "retool". We just don't have the right assets to do it. Our cupboard is mostly bare and our cap is maxed with bad contracts and entitled vets. That's a bad combination to try and build a winner in a hurry. I guess all we can hope for is that Carbery sparks some of the vets for a last hurrah and guys like Protas, McMichael, Malenstyn and Lujo can play valuable minutes. Even at that were a playoff bubble team unless Ovi has another MVP season left in him somewhere and Backstrom is miraculously recovered.

Again, BMac doesn’t seem to be intent on doing that. Every year BMac says he is going to do something and he does it. I believe him.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Not that we will be able to pursue him but still something of note.

 

[ClevelandCapsfan]

Just heard Friedman indicate that there will be some players not qualified tomorrow that will cause shock in the market.


I’m confused. LOL

Someone earlier commented that GMBM failed to congratulate GMGM on winning the SC with Vegas. Just a reminder there is a long history between the two.

Not sure if this is why you reposted the Bowling Green pic, but BMac has the same smirk in that one and the photo in the tweet. LOL

Yep

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

One guy I wouldn’t mind the Caps giving a shot…Ryan Donato.

 

[Holtbyisms]

Again, BMac doesn’t seem to be intent on doing that. Every year BMac says he is going to do something and he does it. I believe him.

What he wants or tries to do and what he's capable of doing are two different things. The year before his big message was younger and faster... We got significantly older and in my estimation, slower.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

What he wants or tries to do and what he's capable of doing are two different things. The year before his big message was younger and faster... We got significantly older and in my estimation, slower.
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Fair. I think either way he ends up shaking up the top six one way or another…though what he considers younger may be different than what we are thinking.

 

[discobob]

What are the comparables for a Kuzy trade? What top 6 guys are being moved from struggling teams with new coaches?

Toffoli? He had a much better season than Kuzy... a career scoring year vs Kuzy's worst season since his first full campaign as a Cap. Calgary still only got one roster player and a mid-round pick, iirc. The return was not close to the true player value because of the known want-away status of Toffoli. Kuzy's in the same "motivated seller" boat, with reduced value due to 1/3 the production of Toffoli, on top of a horrid season AND various off-ice baggage. That's not even considering Toffoli's meager cap hit which is a bit more than half Kuzy's.

Johansen? A cap clearing move that returned an injured journeyman in Galchenyuk, whose been as frustratingly inconsistent as Mantha, and seems to have peaked 7 or so years ago.

Anyone else? Who's netting a king's ransom or even decent value right now, among teams going for a new start/system/coach and trying to move a boat anchor contract?

The team that trades for Kuzy needs to account for the fact that he comes with 10M of cocaine. So there's that...

 

[Langway]

If they're going to sign a pretty mid stopgap type with their scant cap space only do it for a year, esp. if it's a mid winger type. At other positions maybe offering more term brings the AAV down a bit but I'd be wary engaging in that. They're going to want to avoid a Panik repeat. Signing a Bunting, Zucker, Engvall, JVR or Wood to any term isn't very appealing. They all might fare better than Panik but I'd definitely hesitate creating future blockages on the wings if it's not very worthwhile. Extending Wilson is one thing. Even if they can deal Oshie, in addition to Mantha, at some point any activity needs to be very deliberate.

With such a limited amount of space for themselves and around the league they need to be highly selective how they go about finalizing the roster. It sure sounds like they'd like to move Mantha. I think they'll be prepared to pay up to do it. I think San Jose might end up being a fit given what we now about Grier thus far. But even if they potentially free up a solid $5.7M they've got to be very targeted how they go about spending it. And potentially quite patient as the market shifts.

 

[Calicaps]

What he wants or tries to do and what he's capable of doing are two different things. The year before his big message was younger and faster... We got significantly older and in my estimation, slower.
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This is totally misleading. The overall age went up because they swapped two baby goalies for DK and Chuck and because all the existing vets were a year older. But all the other new guys that Mac brought in: Brown (I know), Strome, Milano, even NAK (plus Protas) made the skaters younger and faster. And he's since traded away two 30+ year old guys and swapped in an admittedly not so speedy 23 year old.

 

[twabby]

LeBrun rumblings: Buzz from the NHL Draft on Killorn, Nylander, Hanifin, Karlsson and more

A flattened cap is making trades and free-agent retentions tough for contenders. With free agency coming, will the big names start moving?

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The first thing that’s important to know on the William Nylander front is that Saturday isn’t any kind of real deadline for the Maple Leafs. The fact he has a modified no-trade clause (10-team list) kicking in isn’t seen by GM Brad Treliving as a moment when he must be signed or traded. There’s some leeway there.

But there’s still some urgency to find a resolution as soon as possible so the Leafs can continue to address other roster decisions. The problem, in my understanding of the situation as of Thursday, is that Nylander’s ask so far in contract talks is certainly above what the Leafs can live with in an extension. There appears to be a sizeable gap. But my sense is the Leafs will just keep hammering away at it hoping to find a path to an extension.

The other reality is that though it sounds good on paper to simply trade Nylander if they can’t sign him, look at what’s transpiring around the NHL right now, as far as teams’ not being able to move money. As talented a player as Nylander is, what the Leafs have found out this week is that his trade market isn’t nearly as robust as we might have predicted. There’s just no cap room out there, and any team trading for Nylander would want him extended.

If the Leafs do trade Nylander, they also have to have a plan for how they replace his offense. This is still a fluid situation, but it’s one that’s put the Leafs in a tough spot. They want to sign him — but at a deal that makes sense for them. Let’s see what the next week brings on that front.

In terms of legitimate top 6 targets that move the needle and could be available, William Nylander is about as perfect a fit as Washington can find and an ideal winger to play across from Ovechkin on the top line. Great playmaker, good scorer in his own right, dynamite in transition.

He makes ~$7 million against the cap, which is a bargain for what he brings and is manageable if Washington gets aggressive about shedding salary.

An extension would also be more than manageable. Mantha’s off the books either way after next year. Kuznetsov, Backstrom, and Oshie will only have a year left. And no big raises will be due anytime in the next few years.

Consider William Nylander my #1 trade target right now.

 

[Roric]

Please god yes nylander

 

[WanderingCapsFan]

My working assumption is that GMBM is not going to be able to work magic. We'll run back the same old guys (1 year older) with the kids around the edges. Hope Carbery can help remove Mantha's and Kuznetsov's heads from their a**es. Hope Backstrom has a miraculous recovery or realize that it's a lost cause and exit stage left.

And it will be ugly.

Or, maybe GMBM can work some magic over the next 3 months, and the stars will align.

Life is all about expectations. My expectations are low.

 

[MileHighCapsFan]

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Not sure who would cause shock. Troy Terry would. Vince Dunn. Trent Frederic. Not much else that might be in danger due to arbitration raises that moves the needle you'd think.

Has a qualifying offer been made to DeBrincat?

 

[WanderingCapsFan]

The QO was required to be at least $9 million. Apparently the Sens filed for arbitration...
The Senators filed for arbitration with Alex DeBrincat. History says they never get there.

 

[Langway]

Evolving-Hockey

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Excellent free agency overview. Engvall does shine here but then if that's something that pushes Milano into the top six I'm not sure it does much. They could put Engvall in the top six instead as more of a two-way forechecker but that's also well short of what's needed. On the back-end at LD I think there's a bit more value to be had, in part because questions of overall fit are less crucial.

When it comes to some of their projected worst value contracts many of their projections seem very likely to be overinflated given the lack of cap space across the league. With the market so squeezed a lot of UFAs are at risk of being frozen out. The very top will still cash in: Orlov, Bertuzzi, Killorn, Domi, Compher, Bunting, maybe ROR and Tarasenko should have robust markets regardless I'd wager. But the rest? Much harder to say and it may create pockets of value.

 

[The Instigator]

Evolving-Hockey

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Excellent free agency overview. Engvall does shine here but then if that's something that pushes Milano into the top six I'm not sure it does much. They could put Engvall in the top six instead as more of a two-way forechecker but that's also well short of what's needed. On the back-end at LD I think there's a bit more value to be had, in part because questions of overall fit are less crucial.

When it comes to some of their projected worst value contracts many of their projections seem very likely to be overinflated given the lack of cap space across the league. With the market so squeezed a lot of UFAs are at risk of being frozen out. The very top will still cash in: Orlov, Bertuzzi, Killorn, Domi, Compher, Bunting, maybe ROR and Tarasenko should have robust markets regardless I'd wager. But the rest? Much harder to say and it may create pockets of value.

Brutal prediction system. He had Corey Perry's salary predicted at less than 25% of what he got.

 

[hockeykicker]

What I’m hearing about the Capitals ahead of free agency: Tom Wilson, coaching staff, more

After selecting six players in this week’s draft, the Capitals' focus has turned to other pressing offseason matters.

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• Wilson has one more year on a contract that averages $5.16 million per. He’s eligible to ink an extension as early as Saturday, and the team has “good” discussions with Wilson’s agent, a league source said, but nothing is imminent. In other words, don’t expect any announcements regarding Wilson’s future this weekend.

• This should not come as a surprise at this point but the Caps do not intend to re-sign pending unrestricted free agents Conor Sheary, Craig Smith or Matt Irwin.

• Connor Brown remains on the Caps’ radar but it sounds like he will go to market. It’s possible the 29-year-old winger will circle back with Washington if he doesn’t find what he’s looking for. The Caps will go shopping when the market opens Saturday but fans can expect them to be frugal — unless they create cap space via a salary dump, which seems unlikely. Per CapFriendly, they currently have 17 players under contract for next season and only $7.3 million in cap space to flesh out the roster. The roster maximum is 23.

Prospect Riley Sutter will also receive a qualifying offer. Meanwhile, the team is still deciding what to do about minor leaguers Kody Clark, Gabriel Carlsson and Henrik Borgstrom — all of whom are also restricted free agents. AHL playoff MVP Hunter Shepard is expected to sign a two-year extension. The 27-year-old pending unrestricted free agent went 14-6 with a .914 save percentage and 2.27 goals against average en route to the Calder Cup.

 

[Misery74]

LeBrun rumblings: Buzz from the NHL Draft on Killorn, Nylander, Hanifin, Karlsson and more

A flattened cap is making trades and free-agent retentions tough for contenders. With free agency coming, will the big names start moving?

theathletic.com

In terms of legitimate top 6 targets that move the needle and could be available, William Nylander is about as perfect a fit as Washington can find and an ideal winger to play across from Ovechkin on the top line. Great playmaker, good scorer in his own right, dynamite in transition.

He makes ~$7 million against the cap, which is a bargain for what he brings and is manageable if Washington gets aggressive about shedding salary.

An extension would also be more than manageable. Mantha’s off the books either way after next year. Kuznetsov, Backstrom, and Oshie will only have a year left. And no big raises will be due anytime in the next few years.

Consider William Nylander my #1 trade target right now.

William Nylanders next contract could net him close to $10m per season.

As good as Nylander is, until Backstrom is gone, we just cannot pay that.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

What I’m hearing about the Capitals ahead of free agency: Tom Wilson, coaching staff, more

After selecting six players in this week’s draft, the Capitals' focus has turned to other pressing offseason matters.

theathletic.com

I'd hold on to Gabriel Carlsson for defensive depth.