Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!

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CapitalsCupReality

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I don’t think so. CapFriendly has him at a $70k AHL salary.

Unless there is something special about him being “on loan” that I’ve never heard about. I think it just means since he’s been sent down without waivers since he’s exempt.
Looks like since he’s still on his ELC, and that has salary language specific to the AHL, he gets his AHL salary.
 

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But...Goon told me he got paid and that's what he cared about.

What do you think Lavi is going to say?

"I talked to Connor and he was very pissed off about this. He hates that he made a quarter million dollars instead of 25K and is mad at me. I'm going to text him a smiling emoji later and hopefully he'll text me back."

Jesus.
 

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If you squint really hard, you can sort of see the reasoning behind both GM's and coach's decisions IF the team is making the playoffs. Remove that last part and none of it makes any sense.

Say, you lose Orlov. He is the best puck moving defenseman on the team and his primary role is to transition from defense to offense. You replace him with Irwin??? After years and years of drafting and developing defensemen, the best that this organization has to offer as a solution to a single injury is Irwin?
 

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Injecting life into this team is not the reason I would fire Lavi. If you’re firing Lavi if it’s because, as you said, they need to play the young kids and Lavi is not a development coach.

I don’t think this team is as bad as their record shows and I think they’ve had some rotten luck but I think it’s probably time for them to push the reset button. Get rid of guys like Eller, Johansson, Irwin, and Sheary for starter’s and then see what kind of shakeup you can make during the off-season.

I feel like Bruce Bodreau will be available soon. If memory serves me right he's pretty good at developing players and getting teams to score s lot which is good for Ovi.

We could probably go the Buffalo route of losing every game 6-5 instead of 3-2 like right now.
 
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Wasn't Bodreau just hired? He's already on the hotseat? wtf

If we wanted someone more permanent instead of a stop gap, I'd reach out to Burnette personally. Claude Julien seems like he'd fit the veteran coaching role.
 

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Jeff Halpern or Spencer Carberry are the interesting names for me as head coach.

One possible route to go would be to can the coaching staff now and get an interim. See if you can get a little more discipline, energy and commitment from the players by virtue of a coaching change. Then in the off-season, go after one of Halpern/Carberry.

It wouldn't hurt to have a good think about parting ways with BMac before hiring the next permanent coaching staff. It feels like his time in Washington is coming to a very natural end.
 

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I can’t believe it took them this long to send him down. Hopefully there’s a plan moving forward
I really think the only reason they didn’t send him down a month ago was because of injuries. CMM is serving as a warm body as much as NAK is. With Oshie and/or Orlov back on Wednesday it makes sense to send him down and hopefully he’ll play tonight for Hershey. Would have liked to see him go down earlier but there was another part of the dynamic.

Jeff Halpern or Spencer Carberry are the interesting names for me as head coach.
I could be wrong but i don’t think you can sign a coach (even if promotion) off of a current assignment. Would have to be in the offseason. Interim coach comes from within organization or someone not employed.
 
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McMicahel on ice for Bears wearing 14. Lots of Bears out injured including Veccicone, Ethan Frank, Pilon, and LuJo. Let’s see what CMM can do!

 
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Lapierre 3rd line? Thought he was lighting it up, figured he'd be the first line C.
 

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Lapierre 3rd line? Thought he was lighting it up, figured he'd be the first line C.
That line is working so no need to break it up. Rybinski has been solid. Ethan Frank was on that line for a bit too But out injured for last 3 games or so. Love that they put McMichale and center and moved Borgstrom to wing (he has been solid at Center).
 

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If they're going all-in on the 894 run and just running it back with names, I fully support the Bruce Boudreau hire. Could make the next couple years actually fun to watch, even if they don't win as much as we would like.

If they're hiring an up-and-comer, my preferences are (in order):
Spencer Carbery
Mike Vellucci
Marco Sturm
Jeff Halpern
 

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128 man-games lost in 20 games
so we're #1 at something!

Finally finished the 13g in 24 days and couldn't buy a break,
easily lost out on many pts, the 0-2-2 stretch alone was especially cruel losing leads past halfway in all 4, no OT/SO pts, coming away with 0 v DET and the late dagger v ARI for another heartbreaker for nothing in the standings

It is injuries.
It is the busy schedule.
It is losing key players in the 1st weeks after already having to piece-meal summer deals and deal with LTIR before the season even started.
It's that just as much as the on-ice performance (of which there's no shortage of critics)

Start of the season Caps were a bubble team... WC1/WC2, maybe Metro3rd, maybe missing out altogether; the Hockey Gods have not been kind to say the least

Curious how the team responds after finally getting more than 1 day btwn games and maybe getting Orlov/Oshie back
 

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If both Orlov and Oshie play we will ice a significantly better lineup and Oshie is a great leader. Hath will be back so I expect something like:

OV-Strome-Sheary
Milano-Kuzy-Oshie
Protas-Eller-Mantha (I liked this line a lot earlier)
Mojo-Dowd-Hathaway (been a good 4th line combo)

Snively-NAK extras
Dee as they were for practice

If that lineup can stay consistent I feel like we can go on a little run we are right there. 14 points in next 10 games and we are likely in the top 3 in the metro.
 
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If both Orlov and Oshie play we will ice a significantly better lineup and Oshie is a great leader. Hath will be back so I expect something like:

OV-Strome-Sheary
Milano-Kuzy-Oshie
Protas-Eller-Mantha (I liked this line a lot earlier)
Mojo-Dowd-Hathaway (been a good 4th line combo)

Snively-NAK extras
Dee as they were for practice

If that lineup can stay consistent I feel like we can go on a little run we are right there. 14 points in next 10 games and we are likely in the top 3 in the metro.
I’m not gonna go full on optimist, but besides NJD, the rest of the Metro is packed in pretty tight. It’s not like it would take some miracle to move up in the standings.

It just might take a miracle for this group to play well on a consistent basis. Getting our best overall D back in Orlov is not nothing. Plus, it gets Irwin off the ice, and the pairs back to some semblance of normalcy.

And yea, sure Oshie is slow and I don’t even know what’s ailing him specifically - but our problem has been finishing. Isn’t he our second best finisher after Ovi? Isn’t he a guy that takes pride in his play and won’t loaf around?

Plus his presence on the PP can’t be overstated. We’ve seen Oshie come in and fix the PP before. One PP goal/game would make such a difference, and it’s really the best recipe for success as it maximizes our old players’ strengths.

I also hold a glimmer of hope that Wilson’s return will fix the top line. He creates a lot of space for 8-92 to operate, so maybe Kuzy will start having fun again, rather than constantly arguing w/ the refs that he’s being slashed/hooked.

All that being said, we all know this, so not sure what I’m trying to talk myself into, lol. The only benefit of being in the playoff chase is the games won’t be so miserable to watch.

Bottoming out, firing Lavi, and getting a good spot in the lottery are much better for the long term. It’s just gonna be a whole lot of the suck.
 
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If both Orlov and Oshie play we will ice a significantly better lineup and Oshie is a great leader. Hath will be back so I expect something like:

OV-Strome-Sheary
Milano-Kuzy-Oshie
Protas-Eller-Mantha (I liked this line a lot earlier)
Mojo-Dowd-Hathaway (been a good 4th line combo)

Snively-NAK extras
Dee as they were for practice

If that lineup can stay consistent I feel like we can go on a little run we are right there. 14 points in next 10 games and we are likely in the top 3 in the metro.

Ooouf. I think they dug a deeper hole than that. Caps are pacing for 70 points right now. It's not insurmountable but they have to play at about ~105 point pace the rest of the way to have any chance.
 
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CapitalsCupReality

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Ooouf. I think they dug a deeper hole than that. Caps are pacing for 70 points right now. It's not insurmountable but they have to play at about ~105 point pace the rest of the way to have any chance.
105 pt pace is 1.28 pts per game…..14 in 10 is 1.4. 1.4 the rest of the season gets them to 100…
 

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While I'm not holding my breath, if this team starts getting better and healthier, it's nowhere near a lost cause

I generally look at seasons in 10-game increments (8x10 + gms 81/82)
if we're getting at least 12 pts per 10 (6-4-0 avg) like a normal year
that's 72 points in last 60 games + 2 or 3 pts for gms 81/82,
that puts at 91/92

This being the season of parity, I think the magic # could be as low as 94 pts. (NYR --current WC2-- is pacing for 95 pts.)

cpl of decent streaks where we can get 14-15 pts in 10 gms and this could be an interesting season
 

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no coaching staff has really done that here….not for more than short stretches at best.

I think this team is done with disciplinarians, at least for now. We need a modern hockey mind behind the bench. If we're going to ride or die with so many of our vets, it's time for them to hold each other accountable so we can employ a coaching staff that gets us playing a more modern, dynamic, and less predictable game.

Time to find out what we have in MacLellan, too. So much about the "our coach hates young players but our GM doesn't" argument simply doesn't track. If he's part of that equation, it needs to stop. So many of the personnel gaffes we've made have appeared to be more coaching related, but Mac always either acquires, re-signs, or keeps the vet that coach needs to make the shortsighted decision in the first place.

These are among the very top things we need to address in the offseason; maybe just as important is the infusion of new talent. The thought of Mac giving Laviolette an extension -- suggesting neither is even on the hotseat -- gives me dry heaves right now.
 
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