Prospect Info: Caps Prospects General Discussion Thread - 2024-25

Found this writeup on Thomas in the OHL site while looking up Lil Pro's stats:

Turns out he's 5th in OHL scoring right behind Pro. I'm going to be surprised if he isn't signed by the club in the offseason with that level of production.
 
Per a report on the Prospects board, Cam Allen got arrested.


As a result of the investigation, Cameron Allen, 20, of London, is charged with the following offences:

  • Impaired operation of a conveyance;
  • Impaired operation exceed blood alcohol concentration;
  • Fail to remain;
  • Fail to report accident; and,
  • Novice driver- blood alcohol concentration above zero.
 
We don’t know all the details. But yes drunk driving needs to be addressed harshly. Contract termination might be too much.
 
I'm not sure there is much precedent for terminating an NHL contract based "only" on drunk driving. Galchenyuk is the most recent one I can think of, and he had also reportedly threatened the police officer(s) involved which added a whole nuther ton of bricks.

That said, I suppose if they needed to they could just buy him out cheaply. $220K cap hit for two seasons, then $133K for two.

Regrettably though, I suspect Dr John is right, as far as the eventual disposition being dependent on how they see him as a prospect.
 
So the Blue Jackets had a prospect with a DUI last year and his contract wasn't terminated. This appears to be a shade more serious, but my guess is they don't terminate. I suspect they'll be talking a lot with the Hunters.

Now, whether or not they should terminate is a different question. I'm too mad at him right now to rationally evaluate that.
 
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Don't like seeing that at all but I'd better not see any of you goobers clamoring for Ryan O'Reilly either if that's how we're feeling about it.
 
To be clear when I say that'll probably do it for him I mean in terms of personally having any expectations for him as a prospect. The big task ahead for him was refining decision-making. If there's doubt as to professionalism and trustworthiness it only becomes a longer, narrower path. To be sure many players are no angels but this isn't an exceptional talent. There's supporting him and learning from it but immaturity these days isn't an excuse. And investing in a player should come with expectations as to personal conduct.

Regardless of consequences I wouldn't expect this player to become a Hershey mainstay for a while (if ever). And that's just the first big step. Termination or a buy out may not happen but a return to the OHL as an overager or starting in the ECHL seems way more likely if retained. The big knock on the guy already was the head on his shoulders...
 
And for the record I don't necessarily think that contract termination should be automatic. The team should (and I assume will) do some due diligence on the player and his maturity and professional behavior to determine if he is 'worth' the risk. Like it or not, I often don't, but risk basis is a core part of any analysis of alternatives.

I certainly made stupid decisions in the 90s, and some of those continue to haunt me to this day, both personally and professionally. But at the time I wasn't on an inside track to becoming one of the best ~1000 people in the world at a particular high visibility thing like a professional sport. That should demand a higher standard of conduct. Its also probably worth pointing out that public perception and thus expectation of some behavior has changed a lot in the past 25+ years.

But to be blunt - it's a very short leap from what he did to killing two brothers that are bicycling on the side of the road. Pure dumb luck is part of it.

From the management perspective, in similar situations I've spoken not only with the individual who made a transgression and those who spend time with them, but also those who don't like them and don't get along. Their opinion on someone's character should be part of the analysis.
 
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Don't like seeing that at all but I'd better not see any of you goobers clamoring for Ryan O'Reilly either if that's how we're feeling about it.

Many may have missed your reference...

Early in ROR's career he allegedly drove his 1950 vintage pickup into the exterior wall of the Lucan Ontario Tim Hortons (30 miles north of London) at 4:00 am and ran off. The Drunk Driving and Leaving the scene triral was in London across the street from where the Knights play.
 

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