Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2018-19 We Are The Champions Edition - Pt. 1

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twabby

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So how long would it take to make bura a Pker? While yes you don’t want some guys killing because yo want them on the next shift out or fresh for pps, but not everyone can just get thrown in there. Some are better than others

Honestly I think he’d be fine at it. Same with Vrana or Connolly or Kuznetsov. But I don’t want them blocking shots and risking injury.
 

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I am genuinely interested in seeing if Connolly could kill penalties. It would significantly increase his total utility, and help accomodate for the losses of Beagle, DSP, and Chiasson.
 
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Not QOing DSP makes no sense to me at all.

Being scared of arbitration doesn't make any sense to me. 1) Vast majority of cases don't make it there. 2) They can just trade him before that 3) The reward won't be that high anyway.

I would give more credence to the White House thing except I think Leonsis is a big Democrat right?
 

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I am in the minority here but I don’t see a need to bring back DSP. During the regular season, DSP played like a $750K 4th liner. He was not good. At all. He generated no offense and his line could not maintain possession. At times, he struggled to maintain his composure and he committed stupid penalties. If it weren’t for ~10 minutes in the playoffs where DSP made a handful of awesome plays, nobody would be talking about bringing him back. IMO.
 
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Not QOing DSP makes no sense to me at all.

Being scared of arbitration doesn't make any sense to me. 1) Vast majority of cases don't make it there. 2) They can just trade him before that 3) The reward won't be that high anyway.

I would give more credence to the White House thing except I think Leonsis is a big Democrat right?

 

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If I was an average team with a heap of space I’d offer Kempny 4x4 based on what I saw from his time with us.

You get a player who may be a solid defender at a high rate but not silly, you get some knowledge about what it takes to be a winner and you can offer top 4 minutes and possibly even a crack at a PP.

It could be that we end up overpaying for him and not resigning Orpik or we resign Orpik and let Kempny go.
 
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I am in the minority here but I don’t see a need to bring back DSP. During the regular season, DSP played like a $750K 4th liner. He was not good. At all. He generated no offense and his line could not maintain possession. At times, he struggled to maintain his composure and he committed stupid penalties. If it weren’t for ~10 minutes in the playoffs where DSP made a handful of awesome plays, nobody would be talking about bringing him back. IMO.

Yeah if he didnt do that really good and important thing he wouldnt be good and important
 

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Kempny definitely might get 4x4. Not from us and it probably would not work out but a desperate GM might do it for sure.
 

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I think the Connolly situation was different because we were so tight against the cap and he scored 15 goals so we were rightfully afraid of arbitration.

Not with DSP.

It's june 25th. We dont know how much of the cap gmbm is using. It might all be used up. Tomorrow he could acquire karlsson. Point is, he likely has a use for every 100k and he must be thinking of doing something if he is worried about dsp contract
 

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I don't know if I'd go quite so far as to say "anyone with NHL level talent can be an effective PKer." I would be scared if Djoos was sent out there as a primary option on the PK, for instance. That would be playing fully against his strengths as a player and putting him almost purely into a situation of in-zone coverage (which is the weakest part of his game).

That being said, I also don't think the PK skillset is exceedingly rare, especially for defensemen.
i tend to agree here on this issue. Sure I think most defensemen in the NHL can be a PKer, but there is a difference between being able to, being effective at it, and excelling at it.

There is the question of scheme as well. This can drive who you use on the PK or those who PK can drive your scheme. The Caps have used their Defensemen to block shots mostly on the PK so that has been important to them. If they had guys less adept or willing to block shots they may prefer a pressure system that tries to force turnovers rather than weathering the storm.

For all his worts, Orpik is still a great shot blocker. That part of his game will be missed no matter who they get to fill it (assuming it isn’t him). They could obviously still choose to tweak the scheme, especially if Lambert is gone.

Either way for the PK. There is a wide range of player types that can be effective at it and there are a wide range of schemes too. It is about marrying the two correctly.
 

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Not QOing DSP makes no sense to me at all.

Being scared of arbitration doesn't make any sense to me.

It's probably a combination of factors, or maybe they're close to a deal. But the reasons to not qualify him...
  • Mac might just want to avoid the wait and uncertainty. He has lots of moves left to make and arbitration is a nebulous, unpredictable science. In DSP's case, the potential variance could be 100% (we think he's worth 1m but they skew based on the playoffs and award 2m). Tying up 1m in cap money in some "undecided" category for a month or more isn't ideal for us right now.

  • What's he really worth? We're "OMG! NO QO 4 DSP???" over a few playoff goals. Before those goals he was perpetual scratch bait. He's got good thump to his game, but he's slow. He PKs well positionally, but he's slow/lackadaisical with his stick and has no pounce for the quick clear. We won the Cup, so we've politely forgotten the goals he cost us on failed clears. This is a pretty textbook case of potentially paying for past performance that likely won't be repeated.

  • He's good despite his flaws, but he's tying up a spot we could be using to develop prospects with more potential upside, speed, and forechecking. A couple of them can PK, too.

  • Druce comparisons cut both ways. He was clutch once, followed by 6 points in 37 playoff games for the rest of his career. Hindsight becomes foresight.
The only thing that concerns me is whether he has any trade value, but if Mac was looking to shop his rights he'd have done it by now. So maybe there's no interest. *shrug*

I like the guy, but I'm fine if he walks.
 
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txpd

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I dont think so. When they come out and say that they (GMBM) want something, it usually happens. Have not heard a thing by them about Beagle or DSP. But they specifically stated Kempny. And also a bought out Orpik.

So..... I’d trust that. You usually take GMBM for his words. Not sure why you wouldn’t now?

Kempny has rejected MacLellan's offer so far. We will see. Who bought out Orpik? That is Colorado. MacLellan has already said that he would like to resign him after July 1 and put him back on the 3rd pair.
 

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I am in the minority here but I don’t see a need to bring back DSP. During the regular season, DSP played like a $750K 4th liner. He was not good. At all. He generated no offense and his line could not maintain possession. At times, he struggled to maintain his composure and he committed stupid penalties. If it weren’t for ~10 minutes in the playoffs where DSP made a handful of awesome plays, nobody would be talking about bringing him back. IMO.

Yeah, but those 10 minutes....gold Jerry. Gold!

Removing those 10 min is like removing 2 of the 6 winning lotto balls. Gotta take it in it’s totality.
 

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The only reason would be to sign a guy with a little more special teams usage ability. There has to be a drop dead number on Kempny that you do not pass.

I agree. We have a logjam at LHD on the farm, Orlov is locked in, and we have a couple potential 3LDs on the roster already. Overpaying on cash and term to lock up the 2LD spot for several years when we have 3 solid LD prospects in the pipeline may not be the best move for us. If he's getting bid up and looking for real term, I'd punt, look hard at the farm, and rent a temporary fix if need be.

In an ideal world I'd like to see him take 3rd pair money, with the hope that we have a kid or two that'll leapfrog him in the lineup soon. At a price like that term wouldn't matter to me. But I think his pricetag has increased beyond that and I have no problems with him taking advantage of an offer like that. Just not in DC.
 
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Thoughts on Kempny. Did Djoos do well with Carlson.... is Jerabek expected back, what about Orpik. Are Siggy or Lucas ready? I assume we will let Bowey cut his teeth again this year so RD may be set. LD will quickly become a clogged pipe. I may be alone but consider Jerabek and Kempny as close to equals. Does Reirden want vets or kids?

The kids must hate seeing vets signed in front of them.

Djoos will get to play. How he played last season should only be a base for how plays with a year under his belt.

Orlov Niskanen
Djoos Carlson
Oprik Bowey
is what I see coming
 

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Kempny has rejected MacLellan's offer so far. We will see. Who bought out Orpik? That is Colorado. MacLellan has already said that he would like to resign him after July 1 and put him back on the 3rd pair.

Kempny hasn’t rejected anything. He has our offer. It may be accepted. They may counter. It’s only June 25th.

I think he can re-sign Orpik now. Anyone can. He’s an FA now, I believe, since his current team cast him adrift. He doesn’t need to wait til July 1st.
 
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I believe we will see Bowey possibly traded. They may be looking to move him to allow a forward back that may carry a little price tag. Hence the DSP reluctance.

I fully expect to see the defense look like it did in the playoffs. Perhaps w a new 7th (not named Jerabek).
 

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I thought Djoos was really good in his limited role. If they can get him a steady partner he’ll just continue to improve. Bowey might not be that guy yet, but I think we’ll se that pairing again to start preseason. They might get more leash If Kempny is back playing with Carlson
 

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If Kempny gets an offer that's too lucrative to pass up, then good on him and godspeed. But I hope he's back, the D was clearly better with him in the lineup (and I think he could still improve some with a full season on the team). Counting on djoos to play a consistent top four role on a team trying for a repeat seems suspect to me.
 
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I guess it's all just hypothetical now, but what is a reasonable range for what DSP would have gotten in arbitration? $1.5-$2.0 M per? I'm 100% on board with not overpaying for a bottom 6 guy who had a heater in the playoffs. But we do have about $13M in cap space, right? Even if you allocate $8M of that to just Wilson and Kempny (which has to be pretty safe, no?), that's over $5M in cap space left for, what, Orpik/#6 veteran D, a 4th line center, a backup G, and DSP/3rd line winger? Is it really so bad to allocate a third of that remaining cap space to DSP? Especially when multiple of those slots could be filled by cheap youngsters from within the org? Or is this all about guarding against cap uncertainty heading into next week?
 

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Djoos had some shaky moments but then again what rookie D did not in a cup win?

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