Cap Space

[Stimpythecat]

I don't think we will have an issue hitting the cap floor. On an $81.5 million cap, the floor is ~$60.2 million. Next year, the kings are at just under $60.8 with 16 contracts. Walker is an RFA so he needs a new contract. Even 2021-2022 would not be an issue.

 

[AlphaBravo]

I don’t think we should sign anyone. it’s not really a cap issue but an issue of roster space. We have a ton of prospects and need them to play NHL games so that we know who stays and who goes. Not all of them will pan out and we need roster spots to see who will stay as part of our new cup team.

 

[fsanford]

I suspect ownership will encourage the Kings to allow the youth to develop.

Teams are going to lose big bucks this year and next.

 

[kilowatt]

We should use our cap space to get a good, young defenseman from a team up against the cap. Vince Dunn from St. Louis? Haydn Fleury from Carolina? Tyler Bozak or Jake Allen, James Reimer or Petr Mrazek. Let's make it happen.

 

[KopitarFAN]

I suspect ownership will encourage the Kings to allow the youth to develop.

Teams are going to lose big bucks this year and next.

For once, that's probably a good thing, no reason to sign established players that will block the young guys unless they are a clear upgrade.

 

[HeadInjury]

I don't think we will have an issue hitting the cap floor. On an $81.5 million cap, the floor is ~$60.2 million. Next year, the kings are at just under $60.8 with 16 contracts. Walker is an RFA so he needs a new contract. Even 2021-2022 would not be an issue.

We also gain over $9 million in cap space after the 20-21 season as Kovy's contract ends and Phaneuf's buyout drops by $3 million.

 

[Stimpythecat]

I imagine AEG is absolutely hurting right now. No concerts, no sports venues, no Coachella, just nothing going on. We've seen the kings let people go like Rosen in order to save money.

I would rather not spend the money on paying for cap dumps if that means being able to be a cap team when the kings really need to use that space. Bank the actual dollar savings until we can contend.

The silver lining in this rebuild is not having the cap and financial issues so many other teams have. Maybe that will make the kings more attractive UFA destinations when it's time to get supporting role players.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

I actually disagree - I think Lewis was more effective than Amadio. And I think Lewis might be worth a lot more in the locker room, especially with a bunch of young professionals coming up to the team. Having Lewis in the press box, ready to sub in if necessary, seems like a decent idea. Better than having a Grundstrom or a JAD in the press box.

Of all the Kings I have watched in 50 years I hate Lewis the most besides Dave Schultz. Thought Lewis pretty useless...ya he did score the odd once in the blue moon goal,but his game of taking the puck into the zone and not being able to dish and throwing it in the corners made me want to puke! Good riddance don't let the door hit you and your 2 Million dollar a year contract hit in the ass on the way out!

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

When Lewis was on the ice I wanted to gouge my own eyes out with a dull knife. He was terrible to watch and as I have said thousands of times before a waste of a 1st rounder might as well as thrown the dam pick away!

 

[Inner Turbulence]

[Mod: QDP]
Lewis was a hard-working team-first player appreciated in the lockerroom. Now his time has passed. No need to rag on a player who helped secure 2 Stanley Cups. Even if hands were made of stone.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

It's a team sport. No everyone can play like Kubalik.
Lewis was a hard-working team-first player appreciated in the lockerroom. Now his time has passed. No need to rag on a player who helped secure 2 Stanley Cups. Even if hands were made of stone.

Lewis had a minuscule part lets get the part right please

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

It's a team sport. No everyone can play like Kubalik.
Lewis was a hard-working team-first player appreciated in the lockerroom. Now his time has passed. No need to rag on a player who helped secure 2 Stanley Cups. Even if hands were made of stone.

I remember the game well,Stollie scored a great goal! My wife and I went to game 1 win in Vancouver! Drove 14 hours to get there through parts of the night. Great win,great series and of course the Cup win after so many down years was superb

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Lewis had a minuscule part lets get the part right please

You fail to grasp the entire concept of team building, what a team is, and the parts necessary in order for a team to succeed.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

You fail to grasp the entire concept of team building, what a team is, and the parts necessary in order for a team to succeed.

LMFAO

 

[regulate]

I imagine AEG is absolutely hurting right now. No concerts, no sports venues, no Coachella, just nothing going on. We've seen the kings let people go like Rosen in order to save money.

I would rather not spend the money on paying for cap dumps if that means being able to be a cap team when the kings really need to use that space. Bank the actual dollar savings until we can contend.

The silver lining in this rebuild is not having the cap and financial issues so many other teams have. Maybe that will make the kings more attractive UFA destinations when it's time to get supporting role players.

Concur. And it's not just the Kings. The appetite for most owners will not be to bleed cash with poor contracts, not right now, not in this environment. It's likely the Kings will have another internal CAP next year. The revenue uncertainty is real, especially for AEG and the Kings ownership. They have to be bleeding millions every week without revenue worldwide in their businesses, and until some sense of normalcy returns (fans in the stands at all types of stadium events), I wouldn't look for the Kings to be spending one more dime than necessary.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Concur. And it's not just the Kings. The appetite for most owners will not be to bleed cash with poor contracts, not right now, not in this environment. It's likely the Kings will have another internal CAP next year. The revenue uncertainty is real, especially for AEG and the Kings ownership. They have to be bleeding millions every week without revenue worldwide in their businesses, and until some sense of normalcy returns (fans in the stands at all types of stadium events), I wouldn't look for the Kings to be spending one more dime than necessary.

Yeah, paying for Dion Phaneuf with one of three nights of Taylor Swift isn't a thing right now, haha.

 

[volcom92886]

When Lewis was on the ice I wanted to gouge my own eyes out with a dull knife. He was terrible to watch and as I have said thousands of times before a waste of a 1st rounder might as well as thrown the dam pick away!

Hate on the guy all you want but he had a role on the team and played it well. Helped the team win two cups. People bag on him for being a 1st rounder, however The Hockey Guy did a redraft of his Lewis' draft year and he was slotted in like 5 or 6 slots after where the Kings chose him. It was a weak draft class, cant fault Lewis for where he was drafted.

 

[volcom92886]

You fail to grasp the entire concept of team building, what a team is, and the parts necessary in order for a team to succeed.

Valid point, you need blue-collar players on the team, those who will PK, forecheck and play a grinding role.

 

[tbrown33]

Don’t understand the Lewis hate. Played his role well, reliable, not a big salary cap hit, contributed positively and consistently praised by teammates and coaches, two time cup winner, admirable off the ice as well. Don’t need to re-sign him necessarily but to call him a bust is ridiculous.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Trevor Lewis has had a better career than anyone drafted after him in the first round except Claude Giroux, but basically everyone from #5-22 screwed that up, and we got the 2nd most valuable dude in that range. Could maybe make a case for Foligno and I would hear it but still.

It's not just about your draft pick, it's about your draft pick in context. Lewis didn't boom like a badass first rounder, but he didn't bust out of the NHL altogether like just about everyone around him.

 

[Rorschach]

For once, that's probably a good thing, no reason to sign established players that will block the young guys unless they are a clear upgrade.

I was going to say, signing wouldn’t be “blocking” per say but then I remembered the OP wants to overpay for some reason... that means the guys who we sign would be difficult to remove. That certainly would be blocking.

 

[Rusty Batch]

I was going to say, signing wouldn’t be “blocking” per say but then I remembered the OP wants to overpay for some reason... that means the guys who we sign would be difficult to remove. That certainly would be blocking.

The reason to overpay was to get them on a short term contract. Overpay on AAV in order to reduce the term.

 

[Statto]

The reason to overpay was to get them on a short term contract. Overpay on AAV in order to reduce the term.

It’s a strategy you have to be vary careful with as it can easily become a contract you want to move but can’t. You’d have to be really confident whomever you sign like this is going to deliver. However given where we are in the teams development I don’t think it’s worth a risk on 3-4 years. Maybe on a 2 year....

 

[Rusty Batch]

It’s a strategy you have to be vary careful with as it can easily become a contract you want to move but can’t. You’d have to be really confident whomever you sign like this is going to deliver. However given where we are in the teams development I don’t think it’s worth a risk on 3-4 years. Maybe on a 2 year....

My idea was to sign a true impact player on a short term contract. This aligns with the period of time where we will be far under the cap and it will end before we have to start re-signing our current pool of prospects that will be coming off of their ELCs.

Some people on this board want to give money to mid tier FA's that very likely could fall off or be unusable in a year or two. I want one impact player, that will be highly unlikely to turn unusable in say 3 years.

 

[Statto]

I want one impact player, that will be highly unlikely to turn unusable in say 3 years

That’s the trick isn’t it. I agree though, if Blake can do the right deal this is the sort of player we’d want. The current cap crunch in the league may work for us in this regard.