William Hylander
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Salary Cap: Cap Situation Entering Free Agency
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The CyNick
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@Jeffrey Pedler -
Don't put words in my mouth... they taste awful...
Leafs played in a division with a lot of awful teams. Let's see how the D stats look when they play a proper schedule.
Don't put words in my mouth... they taste awful...
Leafs played in a division with a lot of awful teams. Let's see how the D stats look when they play a proper schedule.
SprDaVE
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This is a good sensible take of what the Leafs could target but I think they can do better than Mikheyev and Galchenyuk if healthy in their top 6. I also think Kerfoot will be with Tavares and Nylander again since they were very good as a unit. Mikheyev never seems to do well in a scoring role.
I think you'll see the Leafs go after a quality top 6 LW like a Granlund or Schwartz or Saad or something along those lines. Galchenyuk might be brought back, but it will be as a depth piece more than a full time one.
I do think Wennberg is a viable option and a good one to target.
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Leafs are rolling back with the same garbage team as last season plus a few bargain additions. Whipty f***in do.
ULF_55
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Thanks for the feedback.
Love to see your suggestion.
Mikheyev is the only question mark I have in my line-up, but I know he will go into corners, isn't a banger or crasher, but will go into those areas.
I actually really like my 3rd. line, I think it would be much better than anything they've had there for a while, and other than Simmonds is less than 30 years of age.
ULF_55
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I think the cap will drive some moves, if Hyman is getting those offers we might be moving out of pandemic reduced salary offers.
Hyman is a decent middle 6 forward, who is getting $40 million.
Galchenyuk probably can't demand a big contract, so he'd be a good depth forward with some upside.
I thought about Kerfoot with Nylander, and could easily flip him to with Galchenyuk.
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ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
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A goalie and one of the top six LWs will get the bulk of that, but the always are sitting fairly comfortably heading into free agency based on their availability+ needs.
That said, fixating on a fixed roster before we've even had the entry draft is a bit silly. We could easily see a couple forwards moved in the next few weeks
That said, fixating on a fixed roster before we've even had the entry draft is a bit silly. We could easily see a couple forwards moved in the next few weeks
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
That lineup would be good enough to get the boy genius fired.
ULF_55
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If they can free up about 6 million more in cap space they could make impact changes.
Unfortunately, all the cash in the world doesn't matter in a Cap League.
18leafsfan18
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People said the same about Tampa and Washington.
I'm not saying they are winning a cup or the best team in the league.
Sometimes staying the course is a move that works, sometimes it isn't.
He's taking his risk by sticking to his guns. His job will depend on what side the team ends up on.
Arzak
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No. Stop joking and start by signing a backup goalie.
Holl 2D pair
. We have 9 M left if we play one goalie and 3 lines...
Unless Marner is traded, we are signing Simmonds only.
We have one single team-friendly contract - Jason ''The man" Spezza. Stop pretending we are getting Sad, Galchenyuk or other high profile UFA under 1 M.
With 9M cap space, we can get Hall maybe Ovi ? Possibly both for cheap.
If you take out Tavares from your lineup, we are left with Matthews - Marner to ensure Mitch I never scored 27 goals in one season Marner can get his share of secondary assists, XXX-XXX- Nylander + your minimum wage heroes
. Get Eichel here, he got such great underlying stats and missing actually production, I wonder how is not Leaf already. 60 points a season, master blaster of puck possesion for a measly 10M per year. With Eichel, we can beat anyone in excel. Dunno on ice.
Prefer Matthews/Nylander together. Matthews is a great puck handler but doesn't like to carry the puck. Nylander will do the zone entries and Matthews will be able to give him space to drive. Nylander is a more dangerous shooter and help give Matthews more space.
Tavares/Marner work better together because Tavares wants to drive the net, get dirty and find the puck. This forces marner to get in Dirty areas. When he plays with Matthews he stays outside and is ineffective.
Mikheyev as much as I like him, and I'm a huge fan has mentally lost it in the O zone. He's like our version of Kokatiemi. He might break out hopefully, but right now he's near waiver material.
Simmonds showed good play for only 8 games last year. I have him penciled in as 4th line or scratch.
Tavares/Marner work better together because Tavares wants to drive the net, get dirty and find the puck. This forces marner to get in Dirty areas. When he plays with Matthews he stays outside and is ineffective.
Mikheyev as much as I like him, and I'm a huge fan has mentally lost it in the O zone. He's like our version of Kokatiemi. He might break out hopefully, but right now he's near waiver material.
Simmonds showed good play for only 8 games last year. I have him penciled in as 4th line or scratch.
TheDoldrums
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I think we'll sign 1 C, 1 LW and 1 goalie. Our centre depth is not comfortable right now.
Robertson and Joey Anderson will get chances to be another LW and it would really help us if at least one established themselves as a regular.
I'd like to concentrate most of the dollars on a really good LW, something like $5 million there. Then split the rest on a 3/4 centre option and a backup goalie. I believe in Campbell as a starter and think you have to take that chance rather than paying up for a proven starter and not improving enough at forward.
Robertson and Joey Anderson will get chances to be another LW and it would really help us if at least one established themselves as a regular.
I'd like to concentrate most of the dollars on a really good LW, something like $5 million there. Then split the rest on a 3/4 centre option and a backup goalie. I believe in Campbell as a starter and think you have to take that chance rather than paying up for a proven starter and not improving enough at forward.
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MakeTheIronSing
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I totally agree.
I think we can all agree that bringing back the same core with 4 x 2.5 million dollar players including your first line, second line and backup goaltender is totally realistic and was just what the Leafs needed to take that next step.
I think we can all agree that bringing back the same core with 4 x 2.5 million dollar players including your first line, second line and backup goaltender is totally realistic and was just what the Leafs needed to take that next step.
Trade for Garland and Kumper@25% retained. I'd offer Amirov+ depending on what we could sign Garland for.
Sign galchenyuk 1yearx1.25 or 2yearsx1.5
Galch- $1.25 x 1
Kumper $3.10
Garland 5m x 4 years
Total added - 9.35
Garland - Matthews - Nylander
Chuck - Tavares - Marner
Robertson - Kerfoot - Engvall
Simmonds - Spezza - Mikheyev
Brooks
Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Liljeren
Sandin
Campbell
Kumper
It's actually pretty good and I'd be happy with the team.
Sign galchenyuk 1yearx1.25 or 2yearsx1.5
Galch- $1.25 x 1
Kumper $3.10
Garland 5m x 4 years
Total added - 9.35
Garland - Matthews - Nylander
Chuck - Tavares - Marner
Robertson - Kerfoot - Engvall
Simmonds - Spezza - Mikheyev
Brooks
Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Liljeren
Sandin
Campbell
Kumper
It's actually pretty good and I'd be happy with the team.
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hamzarocks
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Garland is worth closer to Nyoander than he is to Kerfoot
Garland gets 5.5-6 not 3.5
I'll edit it. Galchenyuk could be less and the vet signing was just because we had space. It could easily work still
BlueForever75
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I totally agree. Marner and Matthews need to be split up. Babcock had it right. If you want two dangerous lines that is the way to go. My preference of lineup would be as follows:
Sign Granlund 3yrsx3.5m
Re-sign Gally
Re-sign Bogo
Sign Bernier or Rittich
Make trade: Dermott, prospect for Bertuzzi
Bertuzzi-Matthews-Nylander
Granlund-Tavares-Marner
Gally-Kerfoot-Micheyev
Simmonds-Engvall-Spezza
Brooks, Anderson
Reilly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Bogo
Lilly
Campbell
Bernier/Rittich
Sign Granlund 3yrsx3.5m
Re-sign Gally
Re-sign Bogo
Sign Bernier or Rittich
Make trade: Dermott, prospect for Bertuzzi
Bertuzzi-Matthews-Nylander
Granlund-Tavares-Marner
Gally-Kerfoot-Micheyev
Simmonds-Engvall-Spezza
Brooks, Anderson
Reilly-Brodie
Muzzin-Holl
Sandin-Bogo
Lilly
Campbell
Bernier/Rittich
BlueForever75
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No way Garland get Nylander money. Closer to a bridge deal and 3-3.5 sounds more reasonable. 4 max.
nuck
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Mikheyev of two years ago would be nice. Lets see what he can do with a normal training camp in a normal year. He can't be pleased about 2021 and hopefully sees this as a career determining year. Still a risk but definitely should get an early chance to hit his stride. I am not a big Galchenyuk fan or of "show me" 1 year deals but would like to see him with 30 games of regular use to see more of what he really is.
I really agree they need a legit #3c but not sure if Wennberg is it. He will play the position better than Engvall or Kerfoot but is a career 8% shooter who scored at a 20% clip last year. Over 18:00 TOI including pp so if he is given 14:00 like Kerf and goes back to shooting 10% he may be in tough to produce more than 10g. He will also be looking at a bump in his $2.25M salary. Not a lot of UFA options at center tho.
Depends on the contract more than anything I suppose. If someone went long term I could see like a 6x5.5. on a 3 year it'd be closer to a 3x 3.5 I'm thinking.
The tougher part is making the trade work without going all in.
BlueForever75
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Agreed. I also believe this is where the Leafs went wrong on players like Marner and Nylander. They should have pushed the bridge deal 2 years prior to signing their deals. The flat cap was unexpected and if we didnt have the pandemic we easily could have had an additional 7 million in cap space. We wouldnt be speaking of this right now. But you need to plan for the unexpected. Upper management failed in this regard. Having to liquidate assets because of bad deals signed.
Imagine the Leafs the last 2 years played with Marner and Nylander on bridge deals.
Marner 7 million into next season.
Nylander 4.5 million into next season.
Thats what they would have gotten and signed if Dubas and company opened their eyes and did what they were supposed to do. That alone would have been an additional 6 million in cap space this season alone.
