Salary Cap: Cap Problems next season?

[Faltorvo]

This is exactly how I see it as well. The core is in place, and it looks very decent.

We have some good value contracts, we have our stars locked up, then there's Clarkson, and then there's everything else.

As far as everything else goes, I would much rather give tons of ice time to some of our prospects and keep some cap space open as opposed to spending to the limit in order to lock up role players.

Well if this is at all accurate, we would be looking at about 1.75m per contract.

Reims at 3m
Gards 2m?
Frans 4m?
Holly 1m
Ashton 1m

---thats 11m of our 19m to use and still need 6 more guys inked.

Ranger 1m?
McClem 1m?
Bodie 1m?

,,,,5m to ink 3 guys?

Kuli , gone
Bolland ,gone
Raymond ,gone

Room for Komarov?

Another top D man?

 

[cobra77]

what

someone said let mclement walk is he nuts as long as he wants around 2.3 hes r best checker and pk'er and bolland at 4.75 for 7 yrs is worth it kulemin at 3 franson bye bye keep holland not bodie and i hope clarkson will be much better next year if not try to trade if not buy him out

 

[Diatomic]

Well if this is at all accurate, we would be looking at about 1.75m per contract.

Reims at 3m
Gards 2m?
Frans 4m?
Holly 1m
Ashton 1m

---thats 11m of our 19m to use and still need 6 more guys inked.

Ranger 1m?
McClem 1m?
Bodie 1m?

,,,,5m to ink 3 guys?

Kuli , gone
Bolland ,gone
Raymond ,gone

Room for Komarov?

Another top D man?

Holly and Ashton will sign for league minimum, reimer is potentially gone and franson is gone 100% if that pylon wants 4mil, I wouldn't give him more than 2.5.

 

[Faltorvo]

Holly and Ashton will sign for league minimum, reimer is potentially gone and franson is gone 100% if that pylon wants 4mil, I wouldn't give him more than 2.5.

Both Holly and Asht have a NHL base of 800k right now.

I'm pretty sure they will be in the 1m range when they re up.

4m might not be what Frans wants, might be what the arb awards.

 

[topched]

Well if this is at all accurate, we would be looking at about 1.75m per contract.

Reims at 3m
Gards 2m?
Frans 4m?
Holly 1m
Ashton 1m

---thats 11m of our 19m to use and still need 6 more guys inked.

Ranger 1m?
McClem 1m?
Bodie 1m?

,,,,5m to ink 3 guys?

Kuli , gone
Bolland ,gone
Raymond ,gone

Room for Komarov?

Another top D man?

Franson and Reims are gone. Can replace Ranger and Bodie with Marlies.

Lots if room to ink Kulie plus a #2 dman.

I would also hope between Reims and Franson we can being back effective, younger and cheaper options than Bolland and Raymond

 

[Faltorvo]

Franson and Reims are gone. Can replace Ranger and Bodie with Marlies.

Lots if room to ink Kulie plus a #2 dman.

I would also hope between Reims and Franson we can being back effective, younger and cheaper options than Bolland and Raymond

Frans and Reims gone?

He will just snap his fingers and make poof?

Ok Ranger/Bodie gone, still about that same cap implications as a couple of Marlies.

 

[cupcrazyman]

If we need the cap space, I see no reason why we can't buyout Clarkson.

It would save us

2014-15 $2,958,333
2015-16 $3,708,333
2016-17 $5,208,333
2017-18 $5,208,333
2018-19 $2,958,333
2019-20 $1,458,333
2020-21 -$1,791,667
2021-22 -$1,791,667
2022-23 -$1,791,667
2023-24 -$1,791,667
2024-25 -$1,791,667
2025-26 -$1,791,667

our best hope is that he retires in the summer after he wins one of those Powerball Lotteries in the U.S.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I agree with the sentiment of playing our kids next season. They all looked solid when they were given opportunities earlier in the season, and it would be extremely cost effective as well.

I think that the likes of Holland, D'Amigo, Ashton, Broll, and Leivo will be capable of filling out the bottom six to varying degrees if necessary. The blue line is a question mark though, as Percy and Granberg have not been given an opportunity to prove themselves at the NHL level.

Among our UFAs/RFAs, I think Gardiner and Kulemin are the only crucial players to be signed. McClement and Bolland should only be retained at their current salaries, otherwise they can both walk. As for the others, they are all expendable. The remaining UFAs can go and the rights to Franson and Reimer can be dealt for tangible assets in the off season.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Wait, I thought the big plan was to get another top end D man and keep our 3rd line together?

Instead we are going to get even younger and more inexperienced?

If it is a choice of overpaying with significant term for our 3rd liners in Bolland + Kulemin vs. letting them find new homes. I let them walk.

They are nice pieces but they aren't pieces to build a team around.

I'm more worried about handing out another Grabo or Clarkson type deal to another middle of the lineup player/good player on a bad team.

 

[topched]

Frans and Reims gone?

He will just snap his fingers and make poof?

Ok Ranger/Bodie gone, still about that same cap implications as a couple of Marlies.

Yes. Both Franson and Reimer are gone.

RFAs... Attractive to other teams. Tradeable for picks at the very least, but also a possibility we can get similar players at other positions.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Reimer is not gone...

We have nothing in the wings and he is worth $2m plus. Cap problems? How so, if Bolland and Kulemin walk while the cap goes up we will have tons of money.

 

[leafsfuture]

How is Reimer guaranteed gone??

We dont even know if Bernier can hold up in the playoffs. Youv'e seen the stuff he does. 100% Bernier has more technique than Reimer, but he definitely doesnt have the same fight and mental strength.

Lets wait until this season ends. If Bernier stands tall like hes generally done so far, fine.

 

[The Podium]

You are kidding with the bolded right?

We have 11 contracts to ink , your "just 500k" per contract is 5.5 million dollars.

Per contract. Not every team has 11 players to sign. Want to see an easy solution?

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - XXXX
Kuelmin (3.5 mill) - Bolland (4.25 mill) - Clarkson
Damigo (1 mill) - McClement (1.5 mill) - Ashton (1 mill)
Orr

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Gardiner (2 mill) - Gleason
Rielly - XXXX

Bernier
XXXX

9.2 mill for a top 6 forward, a bottom pairing (or top 4 D) and a backup G

Franson and Reimer dealt, it's not ideal but it's definitely not impossible and realistically Leivo can be called up, Kulemin on the second line and use the 8 mill for a back up G and a D upgrade.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

We'll have to wait and see how the rest of the year goes. We'll be tight against the cap again and we'll have to lose a couple of guys but the guy's we'll lose aren't exactly game changers.

 

[Cotton]

Here is something to think about; If our 1c and 3c are both making 4M (Assuming Bolland signs for 4M/Bozak at 4.2) what will Kadri's agent be asking next summer? I would imagine management is taking that into serious consideration. Bolland can't make more then our 1C, and Kadri will expect to make more then Bolland.

Because of this i have a feeling we'll be parting with either Kadri in a trade, slot Holland (Who is a young former 1st rounder with 2C potential) in Kadri's spot and sign Bolland, Or let Bolland walk, and without him seeking 5M we'd be more likely to sign Kadri after his bridge for a bit of a raise (3.4-3.9M).

Either way, I don't think we'll be keeping both.

 

[showtime8]

Here is something to think about; If our 1c and 3c are both making 4M (Assuming Bolland signs for 4M/Bozak at 4.2) what will Kadri's agent be asking next summer? I would imagine management is taking that into serious consideration. Bolland can't make more then our 1C, and Kadri will expect to make more then Bolland.

Because of this i have a feeling we'll be parting with either Kadri in a trade, slot Holland (Who is a young former 1st rounder with 2C potential) in Kadri's spot and sign Bolland, Or let Bolland walk, and without him seeking 5M we'd be more likely to sign Kadri after his bridge for a bit of a raise (3.4-3.9M).

Either way, I don't think we'll be keeping both.

Would you rather have a full season of Kadri, or half a season of Bolland?

Bolland's last 5 seasons, including this season:

This year - 15 games played
Last year - 35 games played (shortened season)
2011-12 - 76 games played
2010-11 - 61 games played
2009-10 - 39 games played

I like the way he plays, but I can't commit a huge salary to someone that won't give you a full season. When it comes down to it, Kadri is going to give you more of a consistent play because he will be on the ice more often than Bolland.

You also have to take into consideration the raise that Bernier is going to get, the same year that Kadri gets his contract renewed.

If Bolland asks for too much, the guys that I target are Trevor Lewis and Brian Boyle.

 

[lukeleim]

Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Colton Orr ($0.925m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Tim Gleason ($4.000m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($3.150m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)

BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $48,719,167; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (12-man roster): $22,380,833

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UFA:
Bolland: three-year contract for $12 million
Kulemin: four-year contract for $12 million
Raymond: UFA
McClement: three-year contract for $6 million
Ranger: UFA
Bodie: UFA
Smith: UFA

RFA:
Franson: two-year contract for $5.6 million
Gardiner: two-year contract for $4.4 million
Reimer: Trade
Holland: Trade
Ashton: two-year contract for $1.4 million
Brennan: one-year contract for $700,000
D'Amigo: two-year contract for $1.4 million (Two-Way)

Sign Chad Johnson two-year contract for $1.4 million
Sign Leo Komarov two-year contract for $2.6 million
Sign Devin Setoguchi one-year contract for $2.0 million

Trade Peter Holland, James Reimer, Carl Gunnarsson and the Leafs' 3rd round draft pick of 2014 for Zach Bogosian.

James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Tyler Bozak ($4.200m) / Phil Kessel ($8.000m)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.250m) / Nazem Kadri ($2.900m) / David Clarkson ($5.250m)
Nikolai Kulemin ($3.000m) / David Bolland ($4.000m) / Devin Setoguchi (2.000m)
Carter Ashton ($0.700m) / Jay McClement ($2.000m) / Leo Komarov ($1.300m)
Colton Orr ($0.925m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($7.000m) / Zach Bogosian ($5.200m)
Jake Gardiner (2.200m) / Cody Franson ($2.800m)
Tim Gleason ($4.000m) / Morgan Rielly ($0.894m)
T.J. Brennan ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Bernier ($2.900m)
Chad Johnson ($0.700m)

BUYOUTS
Mike Komisarek ($0.000m)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0.000m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,969,167; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (12-man roster): $130,833

 

[achtungbaby]

Of course, but with 2 Million of dead space coming off the books (Armstrong + Tucker) and with the cap likely going up for the foreseeable future, having 1.8 million in dead salary every year for the next 12 years would not be to deadly provided we don't have to do it again.

Lets say the cap goes up from this years number at a very modest 3% a year and discounting the fact that the cap will be going up from the Rogers deal next year. You are looking at a 91.7 Million cap by the final year, of which the 1.8 in dead space represents 1.9% of the salary cap. For reference, that would be equal to 1.2 Million in dead space with todays cap.

The way we overpay though, the odds are we will have to do it again. The attitude of "we're rich, we could always just buy then out" is what gets us into these problems to begin with.

 

[Faltorvo]

Per contract. Not every team has 11 players to sign. Want to see an easy solution?

JVR - Bozak - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - XXXX
Kuelmin (3.5 mill) - Bolland (4.25 mill) - Clarkson
Damigo (1 mill) - McClement (1.5 mill) - Ashton (1 mill)
Orr

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Gardiner (2 mill) - Gleason
Rielly - XXXX

Bernier
XXXX

9.2 mill for a top 6 forward, a bottom pairing (or top 4 D) and a backup G

Franson and Reimer dealt, it's not ideal but it's definitely not impossible and realistically Leivo can be called up, Kulemin on the second line and use the 8 mill for a back up G and a D upgrade.

Well for starters you only posted a 21 man roster even with the xxxs, most teams tend to run 23 man rosters for the season.

Franson,Reims,Holland gone fore picks and younger prospects?

Raymond,Bodie,Ranger gone?

Ok now I'm getting really confused , I thought it was vital that we held onto this years UFAs for the PO exp , preparing ourselves for a bigger deeper push next year , these roster suggestions I'm seeing looks to me like we are taking a step back next year?

 

[Gary Nylund]

The way we overpay though, the odds are we will have to do it again. The attitude of "we're rich, we could always just buy then out" is what gets us into these problems to begin with.

Yup. If I had a dime for every time someone said no worries, the cap is going up when the Clarkson contract came up ...

Every bad contract hurts, period. My dream would be to see Clarkson traded and the Leafs start next season at least 2-3 million under the cap. That way we have some flexibility to make a move and add some salary if and when the opportunity arises.

I have a dream!

 

[TheGroceryStick]

I do my best to get this team next year:

JvR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-_____
Kulemin-Holland-____
Komarov-McClement-___

I'd leave the right side open for whoever wants to actually play for mins. (Clarkson obviously is given a spot, but will need to work his ass off against some players)
Bolland offered 3rd line wing(center rover) money, if he comes back and deserves it.

Broll, Biggs, Bodie, vie for 4th line wing.
Clarkson, Leivo, Abbott ,(Bolland) vie for 2nd or 3rd line wing.

Defense gets similar treatment, (open spots)
Lots of competition.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Good chance Bolland is gone...

I like Bolland but I doubt we can pay him the money he wants. Time after time we have seen guys get the money and check out /fade i.e Clarkson,Lupul. With the taste of Clarkson fresh in his mouth, Nonnis won't want to get tied up again. With his age/injuries etc Bolland is worth $3.5 to a max $4M but for how many years? Where is his leverage when he missed the whole season and hasn't even comeback yet?

If he wants too much,we have to let him walk. I wonder if Edmonton still wants Clarkson?

 

[thewave]

I do my best to get this team next year:

JvR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-_____
Kulemin-Holland-____
Komarov-McClement-___

I'd leave the right side open for whoever wants to actually play for mins. (Clarkson obviously is given a spot, but will need to work his ass off against some players)
Bolland offered 3rd line wing(center rover) money, if he comes back and deserves it.

Broll, Biggs, Bodie, vie for 4th line wing.
Clarkson, Leivo, Abbott ,(Bolland) vie for 2nd or 3rd line wing.

Defense gets similar treatment, (open spots)
Lots of competition.

Clarkson and Bolland can be safely called mistakes as with Grabos buyout and these mistakes will have long lasting effects on this team. Same as the CMac mismanagement but that's on Randy.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Cant blame Nonnis for trying...

Clarkson and Bolland can be safely called mistakes as with Grabos buyout and these mistakes will have long lasting effects on this team. Same as the CMac mismanagement but that's on Randy.

How do you call an injury the GM's fault? We knew he could be a rental and just like Liles ,Nonnis may still find a taker on Clarkson. Many players cant hack To. then flourish elsewhere i.e Beauchmin.

 

[thewave]

How do you call an injury the GM's fault? We knew he could be a rental and just like Liles ,Nonnis may still find a taker on Clarkson. Many players cant hack To. then flourish elsewhere i.e Beauchmin.

The guy is known for being injury prone, he is haphazard and it's been known a long while. You had to close your eyes to not see it, it's his style he puts himself in positions to be hurt and as a result is often hurt.