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Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign RW Loui Eriksson to 6-year, $36m deal ($6m AAV w/ NMC)

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looking at his highlight reel, most of his goals are him in front of the net. He's going to fit Sedins like a glove.
 
Bowie Horvat said:
sedins are top 30 scorers in the league and are 36
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Sedins were 110-point MVP calibre players.

Yeah, guys like Richards, Thornton, Zetterberg are productive until age 35 and beyond. But they've still seen a huge decline - it's just they were so good to begin with.

60-point players like Pominville, Boyes, Havlat, Gomez ... not so much. Even most better players like Vanek, Richards, Lecavalier, Staal ... same thing.
 
BloatedGuppy said:
I'd say that's fair.



Again, me stating a general truth is not me directing a charge at you. You're not the only person reading these posts. You're just who I chose to respond to, as you seemed like a level headed chap.
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When I re-stated my own position rather than addressing your comment that was apparently not charged at me, you said "Alright, let me try a different way of explaining this", as if I just wasn't getting it. Given that, you can understand why I would react as though your followup comment about hyperbolic negativity was in some way directed at or at least related to me/my argument. It's framed like a retort. As if my view can be lumped together with the way Y2KCanucks is reacting to the deal.
 
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Don't like the contract but I do like the player. At least it's not Lucic and is someone I can cheer for.
 
MS said:
Sedins were 110-point MVP calibre players.

Yeah, guys like Richards, Thornton, Zetterberg are productive until age 35 and beyond. But they've still seen a huge decline - it's just they were so good to begin with.

60-point players like Pominville, Boyes, Havlat, Gomez ... not so much. Even most better players like Vanek, Richards, Lecavalier, Staal ... same thing.
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None of those players play like the Sedins nor have the chemistry and familiarity in playing with their twin.

Btw Thornton has not seen a huge decline at all, he was top 5 in scoring this year.
 
Bowie Horvat said:
sedins are top 30 scorers in the league and are 36
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polarbearcub said:
Because David booth declined , means eriksson will? Eriksson scored 22 goals two years ago and 30 last year. He's a six time 20 plus goal scorer...

But ok.. Because David booth sucks it means eriksson will too
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If you take the 20 closest comparables to Eriksson at age 30-31 over the past decade and give this sort or contract to them, it turns out very badly probably 15-18 times.
 
Icebreakers said:
None of those players play like the Sedins nor have the chemistry and familiarity in playing with their twin.

Btw Thornton has not seen a huge decline at all, he was top 5 in scoring this year.
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Thornton had been in significant decline until a surprise spike this year.

Please name some players who weren't top-10 league scorers who have seen their production stay consistent from age 31-36. I've listed about 15 that haven't.
 
Shareefruck said:
When I re-stated my own position rather than addressing your comment that was apparently not charged at me, you said "Alright, let me try a different way of explaining this", as if I just wasn't getting it.
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Nah, that's just me coming at it from a different direction.

Shareefruck said:
Given that, you can understand why I would react as though your followup comment about hyperbolic negativity was in some way directed at or at least related to me/my argument. It's framed like a retort. As if my view is similar to the way Y2KCanucks is reacting to the deal.
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My apologies, then. Rest assured I am most definitively not comparing your posting style to the gentleman in question.

Clear Cut said:
Benning's media conference coming up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IuM6dr0iLM

basically means they are done for today.
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Let's hope. I feel like they want to add another piece, and I have no idea why or what it would even be. Hard to imagine any/many clear upgrades over the middleweight depth we already have.
 
MS said:
Thornton had been in significant decline until a surprise spike this year.

Please name some players who weren't top-10 league scorers who have seen their production stay consistent from age 31-36. I've listed about 15 that haven't.
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Those players arent comparable to the Sedins imo though. Like i said they dont have the comfort of playing with their twin. They were top 10 scorers just last season and i could see it again next season.

And what? Joe Thornton has been on a SIGNIFICANT decline???

He hasnt been on pace for less than 68 points since 1998.

In todays NHL thats still elite production. San Jose last year was an outlier with them missing the playoffs. They are still an elite team.

Look for Thornton to continue scoring 70+ points next season and Sanjose in the playoffs again.
 
Pip said:
Don't like the contract but I do like the player. At least it's not Lucic and is someone I can cheer for.
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This is the biggest factor for me. Don't like the contract or direction of the team, but I can at least cheer on the top line this year.

Signing Lucic may have prevented me from watching games.
 
I would defend Y2KCanucks' posts, though. He's being obnoxious and emotional about it, but the content, I feel, is more or less true and not really as hyperbolic as charged.
 
MS said:
Sedins were 110-point MVP calibre players.

Yeah, guys like Richards, Thornton, Zetterberg are productive until age 35 and beyond. But they've still seen a huge decline - it's just they were so good to begin with.

60-point players like Pominville, Boyes, Havlat, Gomez ... not so much. Even most better players like Vanek, Richards, Lecavalier, Staal ... same thing.
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id say 80% of those players have declined but they played a much more physical game than he does.

going off of the swedish trend of longevity i think the end of his contract will be a ***** of a ***** but 6 million in 2023 will be like 4 million now. theres no way thats a bad deal in any way

but i genuinely think the sedins are gonna circumvent the cap and sign for something ridiculous like 3 mil and play a significant role as a 2/3rd line with him.

boring off season for the canucks. but pittsburg's bottom 9 and defense is boring and it works. safe skilled guys who can play fast and smart.

i aam hoping the meat and potatoes jokes can heed with loui
 
MS said:
Thornton had been in significant decline until a surprise spike this year.

Please name some players who weren't top-10 league scorers who have seen their production stay consistent from age 31-36. I've listed about 15 that haven't.
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Rod Brind'Amour, I guess? Completely different kind of player though.
 
MS said:
Sedins were 110-point MVP calibre players.

Yeah, guys like Richards, Thornton, Zetterberg are productive until age 35 and beyond. But they've still seen a huge decline - it's just they were so good to begin with.

60-point players like Pominville, Boyes, Havlat, Gomez ... not so much. Even most better players like Vanek, Richards, Lecavalier, Staal ... same thing.
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you don't know that he's not mike knuble. nobody knows.
 
a Fool said:
This is the biggest factor for me. Don't like the contract or direction of the team, but I can at least cheer on the top line this year.

Signing Lucic may have prevented me from watching games.
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I think this is the acceptance stage.
 
In this specific instance, I mean.... I'm not defending his posting history.

Edit: I'm pretty sure it's within board rules to talk about a specific poster's posts in a thread. The personality and motive behind it is off limits, but that's kind of irrelevant to my comment.
 
flashback to spring of 2007: we beat dallas in the playoffs, doubling our great captain markus naslund's career playoff series win total. a rookie loui eriksson, with one assist in four games, is 4th on their team. somewhere tom gaglardi is mad as hell that we have a franchise goalie and a good young core already establishing itself as a force to replace our aging core, who all have reasonable contracts soon to expire.

nine years later, gaglari is on his yacht sailing in a giant puddle of spilled oil with his arms around tyler seguin and dan hamhuis as scantily clad women stroking semi-automatic rifles dance suggestively around them. hamhuis is admittedly kind of uncomfortable right now.
 
Shareefruck said:
In this specific instance, I mean.... not in general.
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I only have that content which was helpfully supplied for me in quote windows, and well...I still disagree.

Here, I can criticize the signing in a non-hyperbolic fashion. It's not hard.

"While Eriksson is a good player and a good fit for the top line, trying to squeeze extra production out of the Sedins is just going to prolong the twilight of this core's competitive lifespan. We don't have the defensive or center depth to make meaningful post-season progression, so a best case scenario is probably an unlikely journey to the 2nd round, and the likeliest scenario is a narrow miss of the post season and a slightly degraded draft position."

As opposed to..

"LOLOLOLOLOL HE IS GONNA BE 37 AND PEOPLE LIKE THIS DEAL :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:"
 
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