Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign RW Loui Eriksson to 6-year, $36m deal ($6m AAV w/ NMC)

[vadim sharifijanov]

i just got home. i'm sure i'm not the first one to say it but wow. i can't believe we gave eriksson more term than backes got, and more money than ladd.

 

[Shareefruck]

I think to some degree I am defending the concept of "relative expectations" because it's literally all a fan of this team has right now. We're a long way out from a long term rebuild, and even most optimistic fan would find it hard to credit the concept of a cup run with this crew.

So you've been served a glass of Prune Juice. It's gonna be Prune Juice for a few years no matter what, so might as well complement the nice Pruney flavor or the rich purple coloration. Finding a way to live with a less than ideal situation doesn't necessarily mean you're "endorsing mediocrity". It means you're trying to squeeze some pleasure out of what is an entirely voluntary recreational past time.

I think that's where the "Eh. Good enough." is coming from in many cases. He's not a bad player, it's not bad value. Wrong contract for the wrong team at the wrong time? Sure. That's the prevailing reality though, so let's silver lining this bugger up.

Right. Ultimately, discussion SHOULD have been about this-- I'm favoring a more realistic and accurate assessment of moves, with as little sugar-coating as possible, and you're defending relative expectations on the grounds that some optimism is necessary in dire times.

There was no reason for that stuff about aggressive doom and gloom/childish hyperbole to be dragged into this discussion. I haven't been guilty of framing it that way or defending people who do that.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Nonis was actually a trailblazer in that department with Clarkson's buyout proof deal.

Ah, touché. I missed that part of Clarkson's deal.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Right. Ultimately, discussion SHOULD have been about this-- I'm favoring a more realistic and accurate assessment of moves, with as little sugar-coating as possible, and you're defending relative expectations on the grounds that some optimism is necessary in dire times.

I'd say that's fair.

There was no reason for that stuff about aggressive doom and gloom hyperbole to be dragged into that. I haven't been guilty of framing it that way.

Again, me stating a general truth is not me directing a charge at you. You're not the only person reading these posts. You're just who I chose to respond to, as you seemed like a level headed chap.

 

[Domecile]

I think to some degree I am defending the concept of "relative expectations" because it's literally all a fan of this team has right now. We're a long way out from a long term rebuild, and even most optimistic fan would find it hard to credit the concept of a cup run with this crew.

So you've been served a glass of Prune Juice. It's gonna be Prune Juice for a few years no matter what, so might as well complement the nice Pruney flavor or the rich purple coloration. Finding a way to live with a less than ideal situation doesn't necessarily mean you're "endorsing mediocrity". It means you're trying to squeeze some pleasure out of what is an entirely voluntary recreational past time.

I think that's where the "Eh. Good enough." is coming from in many cases. He's not a bad player, it's not bad value. Wrong contract for the wrong team at the wrong time? Sure. That's the prevailing reality though, so let's silver lining this bugger up.

It's comments in this thread like yours that are the reason I even bother coming back to this site. Thank you.

 

[Nuckles]

Man, Benning completely ****ed the next GM with this contract. He could have at least structured it to not make it buyout-proof.

 

[Verviticus]

I think to some degree I am defending the concept of "relative expectations" because it's literally all a fan of this team has right now. We're a long way out from a long term rebuild, and even most optimistic fan would find it hard to credit the concept of a cup run with this crew.

So you've been served a glass of Prune Juice. It's gonna be Prune Juice for a few years no matter what, so might as well complement the nice Pruney flavor or the rich purple coloration. Finding a way to live with a less than ideal situation doesn't necessarily mean you're "endorsing mediocrity". It means you're trying to squeeze some pleasure out of what is an entirely voluntary recreational past time.

I think that's where the "Eh. Good enough." is coming from in many cases. He's not a bad player, it's not bad value. Wrong contract for the wrong team at the wrong time? Sure. That's the prevailing reality though, so let's silver lining this bugger up.

why not just stop talking about it? if you need to emotionally manipulate yourself in order to enjoy something, maybe its not for you?

if you need to whine and argue with people about how they discuss things, maybe discussing it with them is.. not for you?

if you feel the need to moderate everyone's emotional reaction in sports... maybe sports discussion is, bear with me here, not for you?

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Just goes to show that no matter what the owners negotiate for in the CBA, the GM's will find ways to **** themselves.

 

[polarbearcub]

Why would they wanna buy out a 30 goal scorer?

 

[Hammer79]

Edit: I just want to point out that because of the salary structure/signing bonuses, the contract is basically buyout-proof.

Just an example, buying out the final two years...

And if they try to buy out just the final year, they save only $2M but take a $1M penalty the year after.

It's also Lockout-proof, which is probably why it's structured that way. Both the NHL and the NHLPA can give notice to terminate the CBA in 2020.

 

[David71]

loui gonna have at least a career year in vancouver at least potting in 30-40goals. but doesnt he have a concussion history?

 

[Snatcher Demko]

Keep in mind if the Sedins retire and the team finally embraces a rebuild, that Eriksson may waive the NTC to desired parties.

 

[Nuckles]

Why would they wanna buy out a 30 goal scorer?

Players tend to get worse into their mid-30's.

 

[Verviticus]

Keep in mind if the Sedins retire and the team finally embraces a rebuild, that Eriksson may waive the NTC to desired parties.

of which there might be none

 

[11]

Bruins fan here, he's the most boring 30 goal scorer. He's a good player but I'm glad he's gone

 

[MS]

Pretty good contract from Eriksson's perspective. Gets $7M before having to even suit up for the team, $28M in the first 4 years of the deal, and it's pretty much completely buyout proof with nearly 80% of the money coming from signing bonuses which are guaranteed in full.

Loui's agent took Vancouver to the cleaners on thec details. Wow.

Eriksson will produce thru the life of the contract imo

Based on exactly what historical precedents?

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I think to some degree I am defending the concept of "relative expectations" because it's literally all a fan of this team has right now. We're a long way out from a long term rebuild, and even most optimistic fan would find it hard to credit the concept of a cup run with this crew.

So you've been served a glass of Prune Juice. It's gonna be Prune Juice for a few years no matter what, so might as well complement the nice Pruney flavor or the rich purple coloration. Finding a way to live with a less than ideal situation doesn't necessarily mean you're "endorsing mediocrity". It means you're trying to squeeze some pleasure out of what is an entirely voluntary recreational past time.

I think that's where the "Eh. Good enough." is coming from in many cases. He's not a bad player, it's not bad value. Wrong contract for the wrong team at the wrong time? Sure. That's the prevailing reality though, so let's silver lining this bugger up.

the bright side is he will probably be good for helping the sedins rack up points, which will be good for their eventual hall of fame chances.

and the other side? well due to climate change we will all be dead by the time his contract is up so why worry about the cap consequences of his later years?

 

[Icebreakers]

Bruins fan here, he's the most boring 30 goal scorer. He's a good player but I'm glad he's gone

30 goals is 30 goals. Dont care how you score them.

 

[Verviticus]

and the other side? well due to climate change we will all be dead by the time his contract is up so why worry about the cap consequences of his later years?

lmao

 

[Zaddy91]

Based on exactly what historical precedents?

sedins are top 30 scorers in the league and are 36

 

[BloatedGuppy]

and the other side? well due to climate change we will all be dead by the time his contract is up so why worry about the cap consequences of his later years?

Speak for yourself, man. I have a pontoon boat and a jar of dirt ready for when Waterworld happens.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Why would they wanna buy out a 30 goal scorer?

Ask David Booth.

 

[11]

30 goals is 30 goals. Dont care how you score them.

contract year

 

[a Fool]

Hopefully he can help the Sedins pad their stats. Tre Kronor line?

 

[Icebreakers]

contract year

Its not like this is some nobody who tears it up during a contract year to sign a big contract like a Clarkson. Eriksson is a proven commodity who is a smart player and a good two way game. Its not exactly the same.