Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign forward Vilmer Alriksson to 3 year ELC
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TomWillander1RD
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I didn’t understand the early signing of Mynio and Kud, but both have shown significant progress since then. Maybe they were able to gain access to better training and nutrition with the money, or perhaps it’s simply motivated them by giving them a clearer vision of their careers. While the sample size is small, I’m willing to give the management the benefit of the doubt when the stakes are so low.
By the way, Alriksson has an intriguing skill set, and it’s not as though we've been getting standout performances from college/junior free agents.
By the way, Alriksson has an intriguing skill set, and it’s not as though we've been getting standout performances from college/junior free agents.
The flip side is Young, who seemed like a risky signing and hasn’t been encouraging so far.
It’s a curious league-wide trend. I assume there’s some benefit that teams seem to have data on or a belief in that we just don’t.
TomWillander1RD
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You're 100% right. Young signing was definitely my least favorite, as noted in my previous comment below. It seemed like the contract was awarded without him ever showing the type of performance that justifies it—unlike Mynio, Kud, and Alriksson, who each showed at least some promise at the time of their signings.
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Vilmer definitely earned it at camp, he’s very raw but there’s a lot more to it with how responsive he is to coaches and the conversations that we might not have access to
I remember Adam Gaudette’s first camp and he trucked Pettersson behind the net and after the game he gave one of the best quotes I’ve ever heard from a prospect “he might have been the fifth overall pick and I might have been in the fifth round but we’re playing on the same ice” and you want that mentality
I remember Adam Gaudette’s first camp and he trucked Pettersson behind the net and after the game he gave one of the best quotes I’ve ever heard from a prospect “he might have been the fifth overall pick and I might have been in the fifth round but we’re playing on the same ice” and you want that mentality
I’m not sure which article I read yesterday, but the reason Alriksson was supposedly signed (again aside from the physical skills they like) is that they loved his commitment to work on all of the stuff the development staff has asked him to work on.
Here it is:
“But the key to Alriksson getting a contract is how coachable he is. Alriksson came into camp having applied everything the Canucks wanted him to over the past year.”
www.vancouverisawesome.com
Here it is:
“But the key to Alriksson getting a contract is how coachable he is. Alriksson came into camp having applied everything the Canucks wanted him to over the past year.”
Canucks camp cuts: Vilmer Alriksson gets signed and sent down
Power forward prospect Vilmer Alriksson, along with Ty Young, Danila Klimovich, Tristen Nielsen, and Chase Wouters, got cut from the Canucks on Sunday.
www.vancouverisawesome.com
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as others have stated, not a wasted contract slot. He is going back to juniors, therefore his contract will slide.
I don't love this.
You don't get a better contract by signing him early. ELCs are standardized. The downside to signing a 33 point junior player early is much greater to any downside that comes from waiting to see if there is an uptick in performance this year.
If he comes out with 15 points in his first 12 OHL games, great. Sign him. But signing him 'because you liked his offseason commitment' sounds like a Ron Delorme quote. Sign players because they play well enough to have pro potential. And that hasn't happened yet for Alriksson.
You don't get a better contract by signing him early. ELCs are standardized. The downside to signing a 33 point junior player early is much greater to any downside that comes from waiting to see if there is an uptick in performance this year.
If he comes out with 15 points in his first 12 OHL games, great. Sign him. But signing him 'because you liked his offseason commitment' sounds like a Ron Delorme quote. Sign players because they play well enough to have pro potential. And that hasn't happened yet for Alriksson.
it may not count this season but if he regresses or fails to improve this season it could definitely be a wasted slot for the subsequent 3 years. think bloom or klimovich
The Ty Young signing was the most recent oddly early one we've done and that looks like a wasted contract slot as well.
Bloom/Klimovich/Young/Hirose/Glover are basically 5 dead contract slots this year which is not ideal. It's probably why Abbotsford weren't able to add a high-end veteran or two to round out their roster.
Glover expires as well but yeah - the value proposition involved in signing late-round picks to 3-year ELCs is not great.
Something I'll also add is that what we're started to see (and I'm guessing we'll see a lot more of) with a lot of these late-round/fringe type CHL prospects is teams avoiding the 3-year ELC by giving the player an AHL deal and then only signing him if he actually performs at the pro level.
Jared Davidson with Montreal last year is an example, although they still held his rights because he was an overage draftee.
Jared Davidson with Montreal last year is an example, although they still held his rights because he was an overage draftee.
Wasn't worried about this season, more so the future like Klimovich right now as an AHLer with no hope.
Lots of optimism but he needs to back it up with the results now.
I was just looking up Toropchenko’s stats, and how he improved after he was drafted…
I’m surprised to see he improved so little (statistically) from his D+1 to his D+2 season.
I would have figured with his size, and after a full year to acclimate to the North American ice and game, he would have really excelled in his D+2 season:
D+1 season: 66 games and 39 points
D+2 season: 62 games and 43 points
Really a no brainer to sign him to his ELC after his performance at the Young-stars tournament and at the main camp. He even appeared in a couple of exhibition games.
If you take stock of the top 10-15 prospects in the Canucks pipeline, you could make a case that Arliksson might have improved year over year, more than anyone.
If you take stock of the top 10-15 prospects in the Canucks pipeline, you could make a case that Arliksson might have improved year over year, more than anyone.
Yep he earned it. Alriksson and Raty were the two guys who made major strides in their game compared to this time last season and it appears they will both be rewarded for it. Alriksson with the ELC and Raty likely making the team.
It must be scary to be hit by a guy almost 2 meters tall and weighs 110kg.
