Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign F Jake DeBrusk to 7-Year, $5.5M AAV Contract

[kranuck]

Tocchet is simply a "my way or the highway" type of coach and in the new NHL with 32 teams, soon to be more no doubt, there are other options. Even Tortorella works out issues with players, coaches them up.

What coach isn't that way?

Tocchet tried to make it work with Kuzmenko, the guy wasn't interested in doing what he was being asked to do. He was out on the ice with him trying to get him to understand what he needed to do to succeed.

Really if Kuz was scoring at a 40 goal pace and near a point a game, he probably wouldn't have been traded regardless of Toch not really liking his game much.

Tocchet seems to have a good grasp of the value of both playing structured disciplined hockey *and* letting the guys use their talents.

Tocchet has played with and coached some of the most skilled guys ever. He played a *tough* game in the 90s when that was brutal, and he piled up goals doing it. He's won as a player and as a coach.

 

[VanJack]

DeBrusk was one of the top scoring forwards in the Bruins' two series playoffs against the Toronto and Florida. To me, you can get a true measure of a player by the way he performs in the post-season.

The ice closes down; teams check each other into the ice physically, and goal-scoring is at a premium. So the Canucks are adding a guy who at least projects as a playoff scorer. You can have enough of those guys. Kinda surprised the B's didn't factor this into the equation when they were debating whether or not to make him a contract offer.

 

[RobertKron]

DeBrusk was one of the top scoring forwards in the Bruins' two series playoffs against the Toronto and Florida. To me, you can get a true measure of a player by the way he performs in the post-season.

The ice closes down; teams check each other into the ice physically, and goal-scoring is at a premium. So the Canucks are adding a guy who at least projects as a playoff scorer. You can have enough of those guys. Kinda surprised the B's didn't factor this into the equation when they were debating whether or not to make him a contract offer.

Weren't you just saying like hours ago how folks shouldn't be using Silovs' playoff performance to judge him?

 

[VanJack]

Weren't you just saying like hours ago how folks shouldn't be using Silovs' playoff performance to judge him?

What's your point exactly? Jake DeBrusk is 27 and just completed his seventh NHL season with Boston Silovs is a 23 year goalie who spent the entire year in the minors, and has a total resume of nine NHL games.

Just to repeat. Pretty tough to judge an inexperienced goalie, thrown into the playoff cauldron against Nashville, and then Edmonton, the eventual Cup finalists.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

DeBrusk was one of the top scoring forwards in the Bruins' two series playoffs against the Toronto and Florida. To me, you can get a true measure of a player by the way he performs in the post-season.

The ice closes down; teams check each other into the ice physically, and goal-scoring is at a premium. So the Canucks are adding a guy who at least projects as a playoff scorer. You can have enough of those guys. Kinda surprised the B's didn't factor this into the equation when they were debating whether or not to make him a contract offer.

Tiny sample size.

Health of the player in question at the end of a gruelling regular season.

Opponent you end up with in the playoffs.


I wouldn't read too much in to it. "Playoff performer" or "chocker" is very hard to quantify. There are few who obviously reliably upped their game in the playoffs. Like Claude Lemieux... yuck.

But I would say its mostly about being healthy and getting the right opportunities.

The players who end up in the NHL are like the 98th percentile alpha competitors. They've played in big games all their lives and succeeded.

 

[RobertKron]

What's your point exactly? Jake DeBrusk is 27 and just completed his seventh NHL season with Boston Silovs is a 23 year goalie who spent the entire year in the minors, and has a total resume of nine NHL games.

Just to repeat. Pretty tough to judge an inexperienced goalie, thrown into the playoff cauldron against Nashville, and then Edmonton, the eventual Cup finalists.

So the true measure of a player is what they do in the playoffs except when it isn't. Okay.

 

[arttk]

So the true measure of a player is what they do in the playoffs except when it isn't. Okay.

context matters, if we threw Lekk into the playoffs against Nash and Edmonton and he struggles, nobody sane would point and that and say lol, bust.

 

[RobertKron]

context matters, if we threw Lekk into the playoffs against Nash and Edmonton and he struggles, nobody sane would point and that and say lol, bust.

Yes, obviously. Then just say “oh hey Debrusk was good in these series’.” Rather than making corny blanket statements when like 15 hours earlier they’re making exceptions when it doesn’t suit their point.

 

[arttk]

Yes, obviously. Then just say “oh hey Debrusk was good in these series’.” Rather than making corny blanket statements when like 15 hours earlier they’re making exceptions when it doesn’t suit their point.

I am pretty sure it’s reasonable to say we shouldn’t judge Silovs considering he’s like a 1st year AHL starter.