Rumor: Canucks Now Looking to Add Mid 20s Impact Forward

[platotld]

The way that is worded makes it sound like they would be willing to take on a highly salaried guy with lots of years left who may have soured in their current situation when it comes to production/availability versus contract length and hit.

So yeah, kind of like a Norris/Cozens area where they will attempt to lower the asset cost by saying "hey, we are willing to take on this big, gnarly long-term contract if you are willing to come to the table and discuss".

I'm not saying that other teams will just buy into this - but there are only so many mid-20's players making big bucks on huge deals that would even be remotely available that wouldn't be automatically completely cost-prohibitive to acquire.

So 2024 thinking, with teh cap going up 15 million in 3 years, I doubt it. But the Canucks trading one jerk off for another MAY work, and with prospects to boot..

I submitt to you : Trevor Zegras Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Trevor Zegras. Yeah he's falling down... but fast and young and maybe needs a beeter core around him to support him.

What would it take ? Honestly, I'd say a first and D petey

 

[Ducks]

It's hard to even speculate on a price for Z, he's worth way more to Anaheim than most other teams think. Personally, I think the team needs to lock him up long term and end all the speculation.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Boeser
Mancini

For

Zegras

Anaheim flips Boeser.

 

[DavidBL]

Boeser
Mancini

For

Zegras

Anaheim flips Boeser.

Ducks are trying to get better, why are we trading away talent?

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Have I got an Alex Newhook for you! You’ll absolutely love him.

 

[Mattilaus]

No Cozens for picks and prospects. Thats it. No "well they can use the assets to flip for another player" crap. Buffalo is already overloaded with prospects and picks. If our GM was capable of turning them into impact players we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The only meaningful trade he has pullled off in years was Mitts for Byram. The only avenues he has right now is to try the same and flip Cozens for a similar player or try to package him along with other higher value assets like Power or Byram for an elite player. If those aren't available. There really isn't anything to discuss. If he sells a player like Cozens for prospects and picks whatever fans are left will riot.

 

[Petes2424]

Doubt they target anyone with a big AAV. They need to take care of Boeser and if they’re planning on keeping M. Pettersson, that’s going to cost too.

My guess is they won’t go over $6.5 AAV. So maybe someone like Schenn who can give them a couple of good years. If not someone like Cates who may just need more opportunity away from Torts.

Problem is, other teams will be after the same players.

 

[Peen]

I can't see Anaheim trading McTavish. But, I'm not up on the situation. Not sure Vancouver would trade Wilander or Lekkermaki.

I think there's next to no question they would move Lekkerimaki.

I think the only true untouchable is Willander because he seems primed to just walk into the NHL and be good and we need that ELC value given the OEL buyout penalties increasing the next two years. And we also, simply, just have a hole there.

Lekkerimaki... I think with this management group, if you're not big, or fast, you need to be obviously elite.

Maybe he puts on weight and gets a little bit quicker, which allows him to get to his spots at the NHL level more consistently. If he does, he'll score a lot. But the question is whether he's doing that by the start of next season or if he needs more time than that. And if he does, and there's someone out there right now with term that they can get, then they should move him.

 

[David71]

alex tuch would be nice addition big pwf upfront.

 

[David71]

im aboard for matty barzal. bring him home.

 

[Habs Halifax]

im aboard for matty barzal. bring him home.

Good move for the Canucks if they can pull that trade off with futures.

 

[TageGod]

Sorry Van, your window just closed, and you are mostly out of assets. Trade EP and retool to try and be good in 2-3 years.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

And that is why you are here babbling aimlessly about subjects you have no real ability to understand instead of being employed by an NHL team. If you can't see Willander's upside that is because you lack the understanding. Not that he doesn't have it.

I will agree with one thing though. He will not be taking Hughes off PP1. But that has never been an expectation. ASP is not taking Hughes off PP1 either.

I watch and played hockey all my life. I know Willander does not have the upside to be elite as zero of his skillsets are elite. You can’t argue against that.

 

[PenderB]

Sorry Van, your window just closed, and you are mostly out of assets. Trade EP and retool to try and be good in 2-3 years.

Unfortunately if thats the case then we only have Hughes for 1-2 years. We have to try and go for it. Then if it doesn't work then the rebuild starts in 2 years. No point doing it now when we have probably the best player in our history on a great contract. Hughes has shown no signs of wanting out and actually spoke about the playoff atmosphere in Vancouver vs Jersey after the first playoff game last year

 

[TageGod]

Unfortunately if thats the case then we only have Hughes for 1-2 years. We have to try and go for it. Then if it doesn't work then the rebuild starts in 2 years. No point doing it now when we have probably the best player in our history on a great contract. Hughes has shown no signs of wanting out and actually spoke about the playoff atmosphere in Vancouver vs Jersey after the first playoff game last year

Sabres can offer a trade that while you lose the top piece, you can get 3 roster players who are younger. You wouldn't sell on EP, and theres a potential the team ends up better. Sounds like there is still going to be locker room issues and EP has question marks. If VAN crashes and burns this season, EP is likely out before NMC kicks in.

 

[tantalum]

So, mortgage the future even more to possibly compete for a playoff spot? Sounds about right for the Canucks. They always seem to have a selective blindness to their own situation.

Except they aren't mortgaging the future thus far and have been pretty consistent and clear they aren't going to touch the top prospects.

Likely Boeser moves and the assets from that are used to make another deal.

 

[Rick Rocket]

First, this is terrible for the Isles and 2nd the bolded is already with the Isles.

But Barzel is from Coquitlum

 

[Brookbank]

It is Alvin/Rutheford. They will be after a legit star player. Like they were in on Jake Guetzel

im aboard for matty barzal. bring him home.

But what would it take ? Everyone not named Hughs would be in play. Gotta give to get

 

[WarriorofTime]

Seems like they’re in full on panic mode with the clock on Quinn Hughes hitting UFA.

 

[miscs75]

But Barzel is from Coquitlum

What about the next best thing, former Leafs hall of famer Alexander Kerfoot?

 

[PenderB]

Sabres can offer a trade that while you lose the top piece, you can get 3 roster players who are younger. You wouldn't sell on EP, and theres a potential the team ends up better. Sounds like there is still going to be locker room issues and EP has question marks. If VAN crashes and burns this season, EP is likely out before NMC kicks in.

If we can do a trade that we think can make our team better then absolutely lets make a deal. But unless theres another deal that gives us a potential number 1 or 1B center then Buffalo may not be our best trading partner. Now that Miller is gone the only way we trade EP is if we get value on his last 3 years of production. A lot of other comments think his value is only based on his value for the last year.
Buffalo does have valuable pieces though

 

[crackdown44]

While he’s not at his peak, Demko would still be a decent trade asset if we decide to go with Lankinen.

If a team has a good backup in place already he may be worth the risk.

Also the California teams (especially LA and Anaheim) may see some added value in him.

LA maybe but Kuemper had been great for them this year. Why would Anaheim have any interest in Demko when they have Dostal as their goalie of the future and Gibson also playing decent this year

 

[miscs75]

But what would it take ? Everyone not named Hughs would be in play. Gotta give to get

Hockey trade for a similar age/dynamic type of player that can drive offense the same way. Ideally a carbon copy of Mat (with one T) that the Isles can build around. A pile of mediocre pieces/picks wont work and doesn't help the Isles out.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I can't see Anaheim trading McTavish. But, I'm not up on the situation. Not sure Vancouver would trade Wilander or Lekkermaki.

You are more up on the situation than the folks making the proposals. He just turned 22 last week and looks like he's starting to breakout. To trade him for a trio of lesser assets as suggested, would be completely ass backwards for Anaheim. No one considering the Ducks perspective could make sense of it.

 

[kvladimir]

Sabres can offer a trade that while you lose the top piece, you can get 3 roster players who are younger. You wouldn't sell on EP, and theres a potential the team ends up better. Sounds like there is still going to be locker room issues and EP has question marks. If VAN crashes and burns this season, EP is likely out before NMC kicks in.

I would hope that the decision rests on, in addition to "if VAN crashes and burns this season", "if EP crashes and burns the rest of the way, without Miller".

If that happens, it would reduce EP's value at least a bit, but teams would surely still be wondering if it might just be bigger locker room issues or lingering injuries holding him back. VAN having the inside look at this is an advantage, so they should obviously act accordingly...