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That being said, I think Detroit is the unique trade partner where Vancouver could get real value without having to retain—but by taking on some of Detroit’s bad contracts: Compher, Copp, etc.

If Vancouver plays their cards right—they could compel Yzerman to make his EP40 version of Jim Benning’s OEL trade.

I think Detroit is the perfect trade partner to make a deal that returns real value without the Canucks retaining. They have several contracts they can trade away to move salary out.

I'd take Copp in an instant. Far better than Gallagher a d could fetch a 2nd+ at the deadline, maybe even a 1st. GMs love those veteran 2 way 3rd line centre at the deadline.

Given we know that, Yzermam would too. Does he write off this season without Larkin and just make that trade himself? Given their team without larkin it might be better to accept reality for 1 year.
 
The idea of paying anything for Gallagher is painful...I hope this is just a Dhaliwal delusion. I'm ok with taking him on as a negative value asset that provides us with something of value in return, but to pay? Just no, not worth it.
Let’s say you take him for a 4th… give him PP minutes and decent linemates, and you are surely flipping him for more at the deadline with 50% retention.
 
Let’s say you take him for a 4th… give him PP minutes and decent linemates, and you are surely flipping him for more at the deadline with 50% retention.
For me he’s washed, there is no way i spend anything on him…and even if I did pick him up as a “veteran presence” who can provide some leadership and some bottom 6 minutes, i certainly wouldn’t be giving him any notable PP time unless for some reason he had some miraculous resurgence in his game. If you can squeeze some value out of him at the deadline, great, but IMO he’s still currently sitting at a sub-zero net value.
 
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For me he’s washed, there is no way i spend anything on him…and even if I did pick him up as a “veteran presence” who can provide some leadership and some bottom 6 minutes, i certainly wouldn’t be giving him any notable PP time unless for some reason he had some miraculous resurgence in his game. If you can squeeze some value out of him at the deadline, great, but IMO he’s still currently sitting at a sub-zero net value.

Yeah he is a single season cap dump for a MTL team that wants to maximize its cup window. If we are to take him on, it is reasonable for us to be on the receiving end of compensation, not the giving end.
 
I’m not opposed to trading a 6th or 7th for Gallagher. I just don’t really see the point in doing so.
If they think he can have a Sundin-tier effect on the young guys, I'm fine with it. You'd be paying the late round pick for the mentorship and locker room impact.

I'd rather they pay nothing, or get a pick back, but the FO might just value him for those reasons alone. Willing to give management the benefit of the doubt on moves like this. I don't think they should make it a pattern, per se, but it's fine as a one off.
 
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I’m not opposed to trading a 6th or 7th for Gallagher. I just don’t really see the point in doing so.
Fair enough, but the way some folks are talking about the fair market value of Brendan Gallagher makes me think Steve Yzerman has a burner account on here.
 
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Let’s say you take him for a 4th… give him PP minutes and decent linemates, and you are surely flipping him for more at the deadline with 50% retention.
Jimmy is that you?!
He's washed, nothing can be done for him to have any value, even at 75% retained.

The locker room hometown vet presence practice habits factor is the only, singular one that makes Vancouver an option for montreal to lose his full salary, and gain cap to make improvements to their (lucky) playoffs run team.
That has an associated cost.

Which other teams are options ?

Canucks need to get an asset to agree to take that cap dump, not a 1st or anything crazy, but something mid atleast, like every other cap dump in recent history.

Any other option is an easy no thanks good luck somewhere else Kent, and an absurdly stupid decision, this franchise and zero fans should be in favor of paying even a 7th.
 
i don't get why hronek wants to stay in vancouver and it kind of makes me think less of him if it's true. what kind of 28 year old with 13 career playoff games wants to stick with a last place team that's just entering a rebuild? doesn't he want to win?

i think walsh just hates his players business being aired out in public and this is just posturing on his part
 
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i don't get why hronek wants to stay in vancouver and it kind of makes me think less of him if it's true. what kind of 28 year old with 13 career playoff games wants to stick with a last place team that's just entering a rebuild? doesn't he want to win?

i think walsh just hates his players business being aired out in public and this is just posturing on his part
Some people value stability. We don't know what his personal life is like; uprooting might be difficult for non-hockey related reasons
 
It's just really unfortunate that EP40 is such a 'distressed asset'. That contract of his is an anvil.

The only way the Canucks can get out from under it is to either retain salary, or accept another bad contract in return. So even a three way trade, with Pettersson heading to the Wings and Larkin to a third team, doesn't change the dynamic.
I don’t disagree. There’s no reason why a bad contract couldn’t be coming back to Van within that deal.
 
i don't get why hronek wants to stay in vancouver and it kind of makes me think less of him if it's true. what kind of 28 year old with 13 career playoff games wants to stick with a last place team that's just entering a rebuild? doesn't he want to win?

i think walsh just hates his players business being aired out in public and this is just posturing on his part

I will not see team loyalty as a bad thing from a player like him.
 
i don't get why hronek wants to stay in vancouver and it kind of makes me think less of him if it's true. what kind of 28 year old with 13 career playoff games wants to stick with a last place team that's just entering a rebuild? doesn't he want to win?

i think walsh just hates his players business being aired out in public and this is just posturing on his part
Bunch of Eeyores in this fan base. Bitch when a guy wants to leave. Bitch when a guy wants to stay. Maybe he and his family actually like it here. He had a great time in 2024 in the spring. Maybe he sees promise that the team will get back to that level.
 
Bunch of Eeyores in this fan base. Bitch when a guy wants to leave. Bitch when a guy wants to stay. Maybe he and his family actually like it here. He had a great time in 2024 in the spring. Maybe he sees promise that the team will get back to that level.
Totally on board with this. Why does everyone assume that if a guy wants to stick it out with a franchise and his city even when it's going through a tough stretch, that he's somehow a 'loser'.

Frankly, we should be appreciative of guys like Hronek, Boeser, Demko, Marcus Pettersson and the departed Tyler Myers--committing most if not all of the rest of their careers to playing in Vancouver.

Even guys like Horvat and Garland would have committed to Vancouver long-term--but lacked trade protection. But neither of those guys wanted to leave either.

I always thought that players desiring to see it through and stick it out to build in Vancouver, was actually a 'good thing'.
 
Thomas staying.
Possibly Hischier staying.
Larkin in a standoff with Stevie Y.
Barzal might be the only one available for the right price.

Still think there could be a market for EP40.

I really think Detroit or Montreal will at least check in on Pettersson. Especially with Larkin wanting out. What's crazy is Montreal actually has enough prospect depth to make that Knies trade and still put something decent for Pettersson, assuming we took back salary.

I know it's a complete mystery if Pettersson can bounce back, but if he does what a wicked top six the Habs would have.
 
I don’t get this, sorry

Vancouver trades a 7th: you fools, you absolute numbskulls

Vancouver gets a 7th: oh yes, tidy business

it's pretty evident you don't get it.

who are you quoting here? an entire fanbase?

and when is pretty important. worst team in the league; get assets. competing: upgrade on ice talent. it's not a hard concept
 
i don't get why hronek wants to stay in vancouver and it kind of makes me think less of him if it's true. what kind of 28 year old with 13 career playoff games wants to stick with a last place team that's just entering a rebuild? doesn't he want to win?

i think walsh just hates his players business being aired out in public and this is just posturing on his part

jfc... what kind of fan thinks less of a person for having a preference of being with the team.

I’m not opposed to trading a 6th or 7th for Gallagher. I just don’t really see the point in doing so.

an asset would have to be coming to vancouver. the leadership aspect is nice but not worth paying for imo
 
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i don't get why hronek wants to stay in vancouver and it kind of makes me think less of him if it's true. what kind of 28 year old with 13 career playoff games wants to stick with a last place team that's just entering a rebuild? doesn't he want to win?

i think walsh just hates his players business being aired out in public and this is just posturing on his part
Out of all the bad takes on this site this definitely ranks up there. Wow. :facepalm:
 
jfc... what kind of fan thinks less of a person for having a preference of being with the team.



an asset would have to be coming to vancouver. the leadership aspect is nice but not worth paying for imo

Yeah I was gonna say, if we gave up a 5th round pick, and get a 2nd round pick (not exactly like that I'm just spit balling examples), sure I'm OK with that, taking in a cap dump to achieve a net positive asset outcome.
 

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