Going into the playoffs with Pettersson, Miller and Lindholm as our centre depth is a luxury.
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Honestly I think if we are patient with Mynio it’ll pay better dividends long term than Kud who is closer to NHL action but does he play the right side and will he get any PP time with Hughes and Hronek being here?
As far as stock goes I think showing well at the AHL so early after drafting goes so much further than 3 WJC games for (most) GMs
Yah. Marchment is a strange player. Despite his size, he's really more of slow dangler/sniper. Kinda like a worse version of the current Pettersson.
If Kudrasev or Mynio can help get you the top 6 players (we need 2 imo) we need then you do it in heartbeat as hard to see there be any space for any of them for the foreseeable future.
If it's the choice of Junior or Willander I'm trading Willander as he would get us an absolute haul or a top line stud. Junior at this point doesn't carry near the same value.
I'm optimistic thou we will find a way to improve the team without having to do that. One high profile FA and one trade with whatever assets we can cobble together that don't include Willander or Junior and boom we are right back in it......
1. No he's not.
2. He's a B-tier prospect. He's not returning much in a trade on his own. If the Canucks want a top-six forward, D-Petey isn't pulling one in a trade.
Never said he's returning a top 6 player. But he would most certainly go top 15 and probably top 10 in a redraft. I value him the same as Willander right now and that's no disrespect to Wil.
Calling him a B tier prospect shows you don't know very much about gauging the talent of young NHL prospects.
He absolutely would not go top-10 in a re-draft today. In terms of league wide prospect value, yes, he is a B-tier asset.
That you value him so highly just shows you don't know about the rest of the league and have rose-coloured glasses for Canucks prospects.
Well there is a big difference in value of a top 6 winger and top 6 center. Saying top 6 player is such a dumb term when we how much this league values centers over wingers. The only time wingers have legit value is if they are elite or cost controlled otherwise they are pretty indispensable.
Ironically the Canucks finally are in need of top 6 wingers and it's never been harder to acquire them. Feels like we've always had too many and always trying to get rid of one.
Boeser disappearing has left a really big hole in this roster combined with Miller leaving.
Taking a glance at the list of NHL scoring leaders makes for ugly reading these days if you're a Canucks fan.
If you throw out Quinn Hughes' numbers; the top scoring forward on the Canucks is Elias Pettersson with 42 points. That places him 125 on the list of scoring leaders. Garland is just behind him at 126.
This edition of the 2024-25 Canucks could be the answer to a trivia question. When was the last time a team without a single forward in the top 120 of league scoring ever made the playoffs? And if they did, how many rounds did they win?
Little wonder that so many of the games the Canucks have played this season have been absolute 'snooze-fests'. Even at home, it's often been about exciting as watching paint dry.
In terms of offense-- you know goals and assists--this team is every bit as bad as any in dark Jim Benning era.
If you throw out Quinn Hughes' numbers; the top scoring forward on the Canucks is Elias Pettersson with 42 points. That places him 125 on the list of scoring leaders. Garland is just behind him at 126.
This edition of the 2024-25 Canucks could be the answer to a trivia question. When was the last time a team without a single forward in the top 120 of league scoring ever made the playoffs? And if they did, how many rounds did they win?
Little wonder that so many of the games the Canucks have played this season have been absolute 'snooze-fests'. Even at home, it's often been about exciting as watching paint dry.
In terms of offense-- you know goals and assists--this team is every bit as bad as any in dark Jim Benning era.
Eh. I'm not saying he's top ten in a redraft. But toolsy guys like him who are late developers with unknown ceilings are worth a lot. Though generally in the 'so let's not trade him' sense moreso than the 'let's deal a top 6 center for him' sense.
But I don't think it's homer glasses to, somewhat tentatively, value him really highly.
Rick Dhaliwal may be a nice guy and maybe he's intelligent in other areas of his life.
But his hockey opinions are those of a blathering moron. Yelling strong, ill considered, opinions about things he doesn't understand or half remembers.
I know I'm unusual on these boards in that I really enjoy Kyper and Bourne because, while they drop the odd bad take, they really understand the game and speak well about it.
But Dhaliwal's segment on that show was almost unlistenable. He's like the guy you hope doesn't notice your Canucks hat on the bus lest he start 'opining' about them.
Most interesting thing will be when we include our 2025 1st at the draft and hfboards crashes.
All 3 look promising but you definetely cannot play so many young ones together. Next year if the Canucks are playing Willander(hope he can mesh with Hughes) and D-Petey (with Myers 3rd pair) that is a lot. Canucks will have Hronek (2nd pair with M. Pettersson), Hughes, M. Pettersson and Myers for sure. Will they bring back Forbort? Tocc loves Juulsen and how about Mancini. This off season I can see them signing Forbort as a depth option and that is it for the backend which is good as they can concentrate on the forward group. If I were the Canucks management group I would focus on Bennet then Ehlers then Marner (if available).
I am more excited for next year than the rest of this year tbh
So much wrong in this post. D-Petey would definitely go in the first round in a redraft. He is also a dman that teams would covet as he moves well and is kind of a throwback with his physicality. If you made D-Petey available in a trade I think you'd be surprised on his return (Canucks would not move him).
I would say D-Petey is trending about on par as Lamoureux, Bischel, Luneau, and Mateychuk, with Rinsel and Chesley likely joining that group relatively soon.
Very strong draft in terms of defenseman. Top 10 in a redraft is a bit of stretch right now but I wouldn’t say it’s out of the possibility in the near future.
D-Petey definitely has a lot of value as a prospect.
Very strong draft in terms of defenseman. Top 10 in a redraft is a bit of stretch right now but I wouldn’t say it’s out of the possibility in the near future.
D-Petey definitely has a lot of value as a prospect.
I think the quick reaction is to take what he's saying as a negative but being a b tier is pretty solid
Who is in your a tier
I mean he WAS a B-tier prospect when he was drafted but as a 20 year old he has already pushed out an established vet. If you look around, there aren't enough quality D, especially guys with DPetey's profile, legit big, actually mobile (not mobile for his size kinda bs mobile) and can move the puck.
Him right now at this moment won't be enough to get a top6 forward but let him stick for half a season more and if he is pacing for like 20+ points at that point, yeah he's going to be worth a top6 forward easy.
tiers is pretty irrelevant, his value is based on how scarcity. We know teams prefer in general tall and big defenseman that can actually play. How many of those are around? That is the thing that will determine his price, not whatever BS fan ranking.
I think I personally value D-Petey more than his league-wide trade value would be too. I would also just, "not trade him".
But some people are talking like trading D-Petey is the answer to their top-six holes. I'm just trying to illustrate no, it's not. They're not getting a "legit" top-six forward in a 1-for-1 D-Petey trade. It would have to be a package. The top-10 comment in a re-draft today was also wildly off the mark.
I would lay some money down that there are more than you think and that a lot of people think
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