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[sting101]

Wasnt he referring to another GM talking about M.Pettersson

I guess i'm a lot more skeptical of this M.Pettersson move than most here

I would be annoyed with Fernstrom and a 2nd though given we just stepped out the Stanley Cup race

 

[sandwichbird2023]

He’s just plain wrong about Marcus Pettersson. There are times, some would say frequently, where he has an opinion and is just about as incorrect as a human can get. He’s very loud and confident in being so obviously and provably wrong too.

I'm not so concerned about his evaluation of MP as a #5, I think we can all agree that is unreasonably low. But like him or not, Seravalli is one of the most connected people in the sports, so if he say MP was untradable at one point, there could be some truth to it. I find it hard to believe but I also doubt he would completely make that up for no reason?

His shoulder is not going to last.

Same reason I’m hesitant on the Chytil acquisition with the Canucks being burned by Poolman and Ferland who both had concussion histories. If anything I’m looking to flip Chytil if not this year then in the off season after maybe squeezing some productivity out of him with an increased role.

Chytil has a shorter contract and a lower cap hit than Norris, so even if it doesn't work out with him, the risk isn't that high. Norris on the other hand is a completely different level of risk, and honestly unless we get a significant sweetener along with him, I wouldn't be interested at all.

 

[God]

Ok it can't be Kuzmenko because him and Pelletier haven't even played for Philly yet due to visa issues.

Maybe it's Joel Farabee. No points in two games, -1, and a long ass contract to go with it.

 

[Vector]

He said last two weeks. I added a third week just as a buffer.

Listened again his exact wording was “made a trade in the last couple of weeks”.

I guess you can expand that out to months but that’s quite a stretch.

 

[ephmrl]

His comment about Marcus Pettersson being untradeable in the past makes no sense as he's on a fairly modest contract and has been consistent season to season in his play.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Frank sounds big dumb

 

[Hockeyphysio]

His comment about Marcus Pettersson being untradeable in the past makes no sense as he's on a fairly modest contract and has been consistent season to season in his play.

I mean it's a lie. We see horrendous defensemen traded all the time

 

[Brookbank]

Seravalli never said this. It keeps getting repeated. It was a troll post on Twitter. The quote was entirely made up.

It ended up on my Google news this morning. I have no idea what site this is

 

[Snatcher Demko]

Seravelli is one of the dumbest loudmouths in the media sphere and that's saying something

 

[Brookbank]

TBH Soucy should fetch decent value. The sheer dearth of reliable defensemen helps us here (not enough good defensemen to around thanks to expansion). Big body, good prior track record, light cap hit. Should return a 2nd at least and another pick. Would give them some more assets to go center hunting too.

So we finally built up some depth on D and now we are selling Saucy at rock bottom.

 

[Jerry the great]

Seravelli falls into the category of "often wrong, never in doubt"

 

[Canucker]

So we finally built up some depth on D and now we are selling Saucy at rock bottom.

He's been bad all year, he eats up cap space and blocks the path of younger players...$3+m pine riders can go.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

f*** off Frank with some of your comments.

Just trolling at this point.

 

[Ernie]

Must be painful for @Vector transcribe these Seravelli interviews.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Seravalli is basically the Taj of insiders. When he faithfully transcribes (reports) rumors, there's information. When he ventures into the realm of offering his opinion, he removes any and all doubt that he is anything but an imbecile of the highest order.

 

[Hansen]

I mean everything from Rantanen saying he would have taken a steep discount to MacKinnon being visibly shaken up by it in an interview, maybe there's been some off-ice drama that stemmed from the move.

I think the cap announcement right after the deal could have Colorado feeling like they could have kept him too

Also Frank Seravalli is a f***ing loser

 

[VanillaCoke]

Seravalli is basically the Taj of insiders. When he faithfully transcribes (reports) rumors, there's information. When he ventures into the realm of offering his opinion, he removes any and all doubt that he is anything but an imbecile of the highest order.

Perfect summation.

I mean everything from Rantanen saying he would have taken a steep discount to MacKinnon being visibly shaken up by it in an interview, maybe there's been some off-ice drama that stemmed from the move.

They can have a discount price reunion in a few months if everyone is as torn up about it as indicated..

 

[ephmrl]

Seravalli is basically the Taj of insiders. When he faithfully transcribes (reports) rumors, there's information. When he ventures into the realm of offering his opinion, he removes any and all doubt that he is anything but an imbecile of the highest order.

Similar to Satiar Shah, a guy I actually enjoy listening to, but when he has talked about Pettersson in the past, and how he's not sure he's even an upgrade on Soucy, you can tell he doesn't watch many out of market games and to take his player evaluations with a grain of salt.

 

[Peen]

• Just talked to a team that acquired a player in the last couple of weeks and is already questioning that move

??

every trade in the nhl over the past month or so has been ahl guys unless he's describing one of the secondary guys in the rantanen trade like hall or drury or something

 

[Knight53]

Soucy trade makes sense. The emergence of EP25 and the steady play of Forbort makes him expendable.

Hughes - Willander
EP25 - Hronek
MP3 - Myers
Forbort - Juulsen/Mancini

Kudryavtsev/Mynio are also on the fast track.

Soucy for 3rd + 5th , Boeser for 1st + prospect is my guess before the deadline. Would love to move Debrusk as well.

 

[wonton15]

I think the cap announcement right after the deal could have Colorado feeling like they could have kept him too

Also Frank Seravalli is a f***ing loser

Thats a huge misstep by the Colorado office and incredibly incompetent if so. Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

 

[Peen]

Similar to Satiar Shah, a guy I actually enjoy listening to, but when he has talked about Pettersson in the past, and how he's not sure he's even an upgrade on Soucy, you can tell he doesn't watch many out of market games and to take his player evaluations with a grain of salt.

tbf with shah - he acknowledged that he's lower on m pettersson than most and was happy to be proven wrong. his opinion wasn't strong - just that he wasn't enough of a needle mover relative to soucy and that's why he wasn't in favour of moving the first for him earlier in the year when it became apparent pittsburgh wanted a first.

and i think a lot of the difference in quality between soucy and pettersson is a result of soucy's fall off honestly. it's so noticeable - just not been the same player since he started getting injured in 2023.

 

[Bgav]

Marek on his podcast said the oilers have had interest in Soucy in the past

 

[Nick Lang]

So we finally built up some depth on D and now we are selling Saucy at rock bottom.

What's the alternative? Sit him on the bench for a year and then trade him?

This is hockey not the stock market. How is he even supposed to regain value when he's the 4/5 LD right now?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Marek on his podcast said the oilers have had interest in Soucy in the past

I'd trade him for the Blues 3rd.