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[I am toxic]

Just like we all predicted. It’s getting a bit easier to predict management’s thinking, and it makes sense.

Get PEN players
Get Swedes
Above all get Swedish PEN players
If in doubt, sign anyone named Petterson

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I imagine they'll have a fairly straight forward time moving Soucy somewhere, but I don't think the return would be much. I'd guess either a 4th/5th round pick, or a player coming the other way on a similar contract.

 

[Ernie]

I’m not even sure it is coming from Friedman. The Dhaliwal tweet saying “I wonder” is a reply to a tweet from yesterday quoting Friedman. Is it coming from Dhaliwal or Friedman?

I can't find a platform that Friedman has said anything on this morning but I don't know them all.

 

[Vector]

Agree with the others who mentioned Maccelli as a buy-low reclamation project. Really creative player, could have some chemistry with Petey. Very efficient even-strength scorer prior to tumbling down the lineup this season.

Soucy for Maccelli? Lol. Roughly equal salary, one year left on each deal.

I really like this idea. Fits for Soucy, geographically. Not sure on the Utah end but I don’t think anyone has a good read on that front office.

 

[Ernie]

I guess it depends on whether the Canucks think they can get an asset back or not. They can waive him at any time but they don't really need the cap space at the moment.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I really like this idea. Fits for Soucy, geographically. Not sure on the Utah end but I don’t think anyone has a good read on that front office.

Canucks would have to add I would think, but maybe (hopefully?) not a ton?

 

[vz21]

Only 3 teams have the cap space right now

The point is he's a negative value asset on his contract and like i said in my original post you're not trading him right now as a depressed asset...would be a poor decision

A negative asset isn't the same as a depressed asset. I can buy the agreement that he's a depressed asset, but he is not a negative one.

 

[Peen]

here's my really boring story no one cares about. was out w some buddies on friday when that marcus pettersson trade went down

him: "canucks made a trade"

me: "let me guess, it's heinen or desharnais"

him: it's both

me: "oh they took them both and packaged them as salary with the pick for someone"

him: yeah ok so where

me: "yeah not philadelphia because they just made a trade. hmm, pittsburgh...

him: okay yeah WHO

me: MARCUS PETTERSSON & bryan rust?

him: not rust

me: DREW OCONNOR

him: wtf

me: you know i wonder if they trade soucy now

 

[arttk]

called it

 

[David71]

Friedman says "I wonder if this thing will happen" and then Brough tweets "this thing is happening, according to Friedman". Vancouver hockey news in a nutshell.

Or rick dhawliwai's I wonder which also means its gonna happen sooner rather than later. why did soucy get an ntc to boot with his contract.. i think teams would give up a 3rd or 4th. they can trade him on friday again haha or wednesday. if he gets scratched tonight against colorado.. theres your answer.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

I can't find a platform that Friedman has said anything on this morning but I don't know them all.

He said it on The Fan Hockey Show.

 

[pitseleh]

I really like this idea. Fits for Soucy, geographically. Not sure on the Utah end but I don’t think anyone has a good read on that front office.

They have Cole and Maatta on their second and third pairing left side already so I’d be surprised if they want Soucy as well.

Maybe you could do something based around Hoglander and Soucy for Maccelli and Cole but that feels like a stretch.

 

[Nick Lang]

Agreed except for the bolded. There’s been little to no evidence that this would be true.

Well I know what you're getting at but RT also had 952 points in 1144 NHL games and played with some of, if not the best offensive teams and players in history. Surely he has some experience and knowledge regarding the subject. I think he just correctly knows defence wins championships, and our team is not built to play wide open either.

He can get better of course and our offence is definitely stifled but I think he's played it very well here. I mean he won the coach of the year and some people are pretty quick to turn on him now. Personally I think it's our lack of gifted offensive players more than anything. You can't just make Heinen, Juulsen, Hoglander, Suter, Joshua, Blueger, PDG, Raty, Karlsson, Soucy, Myers, Forbort, produce all of the sudden. Having zero impact forwards in the system is a killer imo.

I just don’t understand what the hell happened to Soucy here.

Forget his poor defensive play and playing 2-3 more minutes than his career average this season.

He had snarl, physicality, crease clearing ability that got him into the NHL in the first place. None of that here at all. Just so non chalant and laissez faire. Taking bad penalties and then chuckling his way to the penalty box. No emotion. No urgency or passion. He really could’ve been a fan favourite. He was someone I really wanted for a number of years and was extremely happy we actually signed a big defenseman like him with snarl. Zero of that here.

He's a good support player with size but he's getting exposed big time without a Cole type player in the system. I suspect he'll be a lot better behind MPetey and Hughes.

Agree with the others who mentioned Maccelli as a buy-low reclamation project. Really creative player, could have some chemistry with Petey. Very efficient even-strength scorer prior to tumbling down the lineup this season.

Soucy for Maccelli? Lol. Roughly equal salary, one year left on each deal.

This would be a great trade but would they go for it? Maybe, dmen are valuable if they have use for him.

 

[EpochLink]

Mancini and Pettersson have made Soucy tradable, all for it.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Get PEN players
Get Swedes
Above all get Swedish PEN players
If in doubt, sign anyone named Petterson

Does our trade with Pitt and mgmt's previous connection make us Pen pals?

 

[arttk]

Mancini and Pettersson have made Soucy tradable, all for it.

sadly Soucy made Soucy tradeable

 

[bossram]

This would be a great trade but would they go for it? Maybe, dmen are valuable if they have use for him.

I'm not sure, but their defensive depth has been in flux all season.

Tourigny really hasn't found much use for Maccelli this season though. Seems like an expendable piece to them, considering he won't get back in the top-six

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Can we atleast can play Soucy on the right side and punt Juulsen till he moves?

 

[EpochLink]

sadly Soucy made Soucy tradeable

I was excited when we signed Soucy, but he’s turned into a guy who sells cell phone cases at Metrotown kind of passion.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Logic:
1. "I wonder if the Nucks would look to trade Soucy?"
2. "I heard a rumour the Nucks are looking to trade Soucy"
3. "The Nucks are looking to trade Soucy"

Going forward, please replace Soucy's name with whomever you choose.

 

[VanillaCoke]

aim for Macelli or go straight for Crouse ...

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

aim for Macelli or go straight for Crouse ...

"Crouse Mountain"

It just makes sense.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

It's pretty shocking how effective Soucy was last year to how he's played this year. He's just looked uncomfortable from the get go and hasn't really settled in. It's too bad, because he was excellent value last season. Maybe a change of scenery would give him a boost.

 

[Nick Lang]

I'm not sure, but their defensive depth has been in flux all season.

Tourigny really hasn't found much use for Maccelli this season though. Seems like an expendable piece to them, considering he won't get back in the top-six

That's what I thought too. They've had all kinds of troubles including injuries early on. Apparently their left side is pretty solid now though with Cole and Matta, although I think Matta is UFA next year. I wonder if a Hoglander swap might be an option. Do you have any views on Macelli's defensive side compared to Hoglander?

 

[Bobby9]

I hope they see how Soucy plays on the 3rd pairing before trading him. A strong 3rd pairing is not detrimental to the team.