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[Vector]

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None?

-Boeser has had one great season and all the one before that were, to put it mildly, disappointing. There's significant injury risk with him too
-I'm not even sure Hoglander is even on the team by training camp
-Suter is valuable because he's on a bargain contract. I suspect his next one will be bargain unless he has a good playoff run and gets a bump from that
-given the investment they made in Desharnais, Juulsen might not even get into enough games to justify a raise over his current contract

 

[MS]

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Probably walk on all 4 (or trade in Hoglander's case).

Also that Suter projection is horrific. His resume/profile hasn't changed since he signed his deal here and he'd be looking at a contract similar to Heinen.

 

[Donuts]

Take a chance on boqvist.

low risk, potential high reward

 

[Wisp]

Tale a chance on boqvist.

Could be low risk high reward

Corner the market on project defensemen?

 

[VanillaCoke]

Still ethan bear truthers out there !?

hahah wow ok.

 

[Wisp]

I wouldn't discuss an early extension with Boeser at all. Worth being patient there and seeing what options emerge.

Panthers are Cup winners because they were ruthless with Huberdeau.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

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No thanks to all.

Especially that Suter contract. Woof.

If that's what it takes to sign Boeser, I think mgmt should seriously consider trading him (at some point).

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Probably walk on all 4 (or trade in Hoglander's case).

Also that Suter projection is horrific. His resume/profile hasn't changed since he signed his deal here and he'd be looking at a contract similar to Heinen.

Suter was the first one I looked at and thought "NFW". That'd be a Jim Benning special right there (overpaying for bottom of the roster guys).

I also think Hoglander is likely involved in a deal at some point before his current deal expires. He's the most logical trade trip we have to improve other areas.

Boeser, I think the team is correct to take the "wait and see" approach. Sure, it might result in him getting a heftier payday, but I'd at least like to see him in 30 goal/30 assist territory before committing that kind of money to him. If he can, I'd be happy to bring him back - he's one of the best human beings in hockey, he's developed a pretty solid two-way game, and he shows up in the post-season.

Juulsen I like a lot, and $1M probably isn't even a bad deal for him, but I think the writing is on the wall with regards to what the Canucks think about him by having him outside of the 6-man rotation again. I can see him pulling a Kyle Burroughs and looking for some security with a poorer team that needs help on the back end.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Ethan Bear. Yuck. What an awful hockey move that would be. He's brutal.

I was strongly advocating the Canucks re-signing him last season (if the price was right)...However, I have to agree with you, that whilst playing for Washington, he was indeed brutal.

 

[Luck 6]

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Hoglander: If we could extend him to that prior to the season, I would do it, because I suspect he's going to have another reasonably good season and cost us more than that.

Suter: That is an easy pass. I like Suter because he is cheap and can play up and down the line up, but at that contract, he loses his worth. We can sign another "Suter" like player, or a reclamation project, for much less than that. If he wants to run it back next year at a similar rate, sure, all for it, but I would look to let him walk before offering any type of significant raise or term.

Boeser: He is a bit of a tough one. Star wingers like Guentzel are coming in at around 9mil, where as 2nd line caliber wingers like DeBrusk are coming in at around 5.5mil, so putting Boeser somewhere in between them makes sense. At 8.62mil I would say this is a bit too close to the top end for me, I would like to see him at 8mil max., and that would be dependent on him putting up reasonable numbers next season (~35 goals and ~30-35 assists).

Juulsen: I would absolutely sign him to a 2 year deal at around 1mil per year. Why not? He's a very playable depth defenseman who happens to slot the more coveted side.

 

[Szechwan]

I'm a bit confused, Hoglander scores 24 ES goals last season. Why exactly do you guys want to walk away from him at 2.5m? That's tied withgguys like Aho, Keller and Boeser.

I get he wasn't great in his first playoffs, but he plays a style that should thrive there and I don't put a lot of stock into a young player's first post season. We spend a lot of time talking about guys providing excess production for their contract, and even at 2.5m that seems like a very good deal.

 

[Nick Lang]

I was strongly advocating the Canucks re-signing him last season (if the price was right)...However, I have to agree with you, that whilst playing for Washington, he was indeed brutal.

Yeah, he had a very good opportunity and did not play well in his time there. 1 goal and 3 assists in 24 games for a smallish 5'11" 197 lb. dman isn't good, especially when he's supposed be a puck mover/offensive style player. Managed to be a -5 but pro-rated -15 would have been the worst of all their dmen. He was coming off injury and also unfortunately had to enter the NHL Player Assistance program briefly back in March.

Not a lot of positivity even from Caps fans about his play. Looks like it'll be Carlson, Matt Roy, and TVR on the right side and a $2 million dollar Bear on the bench again wasting "Cap" space. Didn't even play in the playoffs. That's two teams now that benched him when it counted and of course our team where we had one of the worst defensive performances in modern history with him playing a large share of games.

To me it's like advocating to bring back Dermott. Like he's a nice guy and seemed to try hard, had a little bit of skill, but he just simply isn't a hockey piece to build around in any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

I'm going to assume Boeser would take a discount to remain a member of the core.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him come in at 7x7.

 

[brock hughes007]

I'm going to assume Boeser would take a discount to remain a member of the core.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him come in at 7x7.

He has had 1 good year.Every other year has been under whelming. I would wait .

 

[Flik]

All I know is that I hope Boeser continues his high level of play and takes a nice discount to stay with us because losing him is going to hurt like hell. Fingers crossed on this one.

 

[Vector]

I'm a bit confused, Hoglander scores 24 ES goals last season. Why exactly do you guys want to walk away from him at 2.5m? That's tied withgguys like Aho, Keller and Boeser.

I get he wasn't great in his first playoffs, but he plays a style that should thrive there and I don't put a lot of stock into a young player's first post season. We spend a lot of time talking about guys providing excess production for their contract, and even at 2.5m that seems like a very good deal.

I wouldn't walk away from him, 2.5m for what he brings is perfectly fine, I just don't think he's going to last the season on the roster.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

I like Boeser at $7 mil per for 6 years... $6.5 per for 8.

 

[ManVanFan]

All I know is that I hope Boeser continues his high level of play and takes a nice discount to stay with us because losing him is going to hurt like hell. Fingers crossed on this one.

15th highest PPG since he entered the league for right wings. There are 12 rw's that make over 7M a year currently.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Hoglander's numbers are going to crater this season. Tocchet still doesn't fully trust him and now has a whole bunch more two-way wingers he can play ahead of him. His shooting % will almost certainly regress.

This is very likely the height of Hoglander's value as an asset. Canucks should try and monetize. If not, ride out another cheap year and then don't qualify him.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

I'm a bit confused, Hoglander scores 24 ES goals last season. Why exactly do you guys want to walk away from him at 2.5m? That's tied withgguys like Aho, Keller and Boeser.

I get he wasn't great in his first playoffs, but he plays a style that should thrive there and I don't put a lot of stock into a young player's first post season. We spend a lot of time talking about guys providing excess production for their contract, and even at 2.5m that seems like a very good deal.

honestly. this fan base. Boeser finally has three seasons of relatively decent health and finally puts up 40 goals, Canucks fans: Meh, let's let him walk. And yea, Hoglander at 2.5; I expect and be happy with Hoglander to sign a bridge deal 3-4 years. I suspect these are the same ppl that thought letting Tanev walk was smrt.

 

[F A N]

Hoglander: If we could extend him to that prior to the season, I would do it, because I suspect he's going to have another reasonably good season and cost us more than that.

Suter: That is an easy pass. I like Suter because he is cheap and can play up and down the line up, but at that contract, he loses his worth. We can sign another "Suter" like player, or a reclamation project, for much less than that. If he wants to run it back next year at a similar rate, sure, all for it, but I would look to let him walk before offering any type of significant raise or term.

Boeser: He is a bit of a tough one. Star wingers like Guentzel are coming in at around 9mil, where as 2nd line caliber wingers like DeBrusk are coming in at around 5.5mil, so putting Boeser somewhere in between them makes sense. At 8.62mil I would say this is a bit too close to the top end for me, I would like to see him at 8mil max., and that would be dependent on him putting up reasonable numbers next season (~35 goals and ~30-35 assists).

Juulsen: I would absolutely sign him to a 2 year deal at around 1mil per year. Why not? He's a very playable depth defenseman who happens to slot the more coveted side.

I don't think there's a rush on any of the players and that's from both sides. Boeser I think management has decided that they are going to wait and see how Boeser does. If it looks like he's going to repeat of what he did last season we're going to pay him.

Agree with your take on Suter. Who is paying him 4x$3.29M? That's ridiculous. I wouldn't mind bringing him back at around the same price for another 2 years but it's probably best to wait how he fits given the new additions.

Hoglander you either extend him for 2 years soon or you wait to see what he does this season. No issues paying him if he's a top 6 fit. If not, he can get another 2 year deal. No reason for Hoglander not to bet on himself unless the Canucks come back with a really great offer.

Juulsen is probably gone. I think the Myers and Descharnais signings are writings on the wall. Juulsen will play out this year. If he remains a nonregular he's going to want to seek greater opportunities elsewhere. If he proves to be a regular the Canucks can make a decision. I'll see if Woo can push Juulsen. Willander might arrive in a year or max 2.

I expect and be happy with Hoglander to sign a bridge deal 3-4 years.

Technically that wouldn't be a bridge deal. There are no bridges left.

 

[Tact]

From the group, I can only see Boeser staying.

Like others have said, can’t see Hoglander sticking around if he wants a significant raise, there just isn’t much money to go around.

Suter - ya no thanks to that

Juulsen - done in my books since the playoffs for me

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Agree with your take on Suter. Who is paying him 4x$3.29M? That's ridiculous. I wouldn't mind bringing him back at around the same price for another 2 years but it's probably best to wait how he fits given the new additions.

Look at the Warren Foegele or Jordan Martinook contracts - Suter is very much comparable to those players and I could easily see a team giving him that.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Hoglander's numbers are going to crater this season. Tocchet still doesn't fully trust him and now has a whole bunch more two-way wingers he can play ahead of him. His shooting % will almost certainly regress.

This is very likely the height of Hoglander's value as an asset. Canucks should try and monetize. If not, ride out another cheap year and then don't qualify him.

Getting something of value for him, sure. Make the trade. Let him walk? I think that'd be terrible asset mgmt.

 

[Josepho]

Suter's versatility makes him extremely valuable and will get a 4x4 or something.

I think we should probably pass on Boeser even though it guts me to say that.