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[IComeInPeace]

I’ve shit all over EP40 for how’s he’s played and affected this franchise (from last seasons playoffs through to changing the direction of the team this year)…

…but, I’m willing to bet (if the numbers I’m hearing about Rantanen’s next deal are accurate) EP40 outperforms Rantanen over the next 6 seasons on a points per dollar basis (if not outright).

I said ‘next 6 seasons’ (ie after EP40 has had a full off-season to pull his head out of his bottom).

If I’m an NHL GM on a team struggling to get over the hump (and weak at center) I think the opportunity to acquire a top end center locked in for another 6 seasons for dirt cheap (acquisition cost) is something I’d look really hard at…

11.6 million for another 6 seasons of EP40 (26 YO) is way more attractive to me than 13.5 million for 7 years of Rantanen (28 YO)…

But while I may be an idiot, I’m not overly concerned that EP40 doesn’t get back on track next season.

My preference would still be to move on from EP40 (if/when you can get fair trade value for him which may not happen with his NTC)…

…but it is kind of odd to me that NHL GM’s seem to not even have a second thought about offering Rantanen 13 million+ with term when he will be 29 to start next season when you don’t know who or what the player is outside of Colorado (6 points in a very small sample size of 13 games in Carolina when he’s playing for a contract)…

…yet at the same time those same GM’s think there is way too much risk associated with EP40 after 1 bad season that is clearly an outlier from how he performed in his first ~440 NHL games.

If they don’t want him because of attitude issues on or off the ice, I can totally understand that, but it seems like the doubts are more centered around him regaining his on ice form. I think that’s more than a little odd…

…if he doesn’t play like shit over the last 80+ games you’re not even in a position to acquire him. It’s impossible.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Like the player but also very replaceable. Not sure on his exact value?

Has term next year but on a good contract.

Maybe a 3rd? Or decent prospect?

Think Raty could fill that spot.

If the Canucks move both Blueger and Suter, we’d need some Cs coming back.

Both are also big parts of our PK.

 

[Coffee]

Like the player but also very replaceable. Not sure on his exact value?

Has term next year but on a good contract.

Maybe a 3rd? Or decent prospect?

Think Raty could fill that spot.

Dang are they selling..?

 

[Nucker42]

If the Canucks move both Blueger and Suter, we’d need some Cs coming back.

Both are also big parts of our PK.

100%

But you do have Petey, Chytil and Raty can fill 1 of those spots. Could see them moving Blueger and using the money to resign Suter, or maybe adding someone too.

 

[dez]

Like the player but also very replaceable. Not sure on his exact value?

Has term next year but on a good contract.

Maybe a 3rd? Or decent prospect?

Think Raty could fill that spot.

Raty is still too slow, and his defensive IQ is not there. Blueger, Suter are big pieces to the pk, if your bringing in AHL fodder into the lineup, don't know if your competing for that playoff race.

 

[StickShift]

If the Canucks move both Blueger and Suter, we’d need some Cs coming back.

Both are also big parts of our PK.

Blueger is an incredibly replaceable player. You can't have roster players that go +20 games at a time without scoring a point. Especially when they are being paid twice the rate of a replacement player.

 

[Nucker42]

Raty is still too slow, and his defensive IQ is not there. Blueger, Suter are big pieces to the pk, if your bringing in AHL fodder into the lineup, don't know if your competing for that playoff race.

He’s having a really good year. Beyond be pk Blueger doesn’t do much.

 

[thecupismine]

Trading Blueger is suspect. This team finally has players in the bottom 6 who are thriving defensively and on the PK, and we’re looking to deal them when the system is already extremely thin at C?

I don’t buy it.

 

[JT Milker]

Trading Blueger is suspect. This team finally has players in the bottom 6 who are thriving defensively and on the PK, and we’re looking to deal them when the system is already extremely thin at C?

I don’t buy it.

Suter is one thing if he’s looking for $4M and term, but Blueger is on a great contract.

 

[wonton15]

If it’s for less than a 2nd, I don’t see why we’d move Blueger. He’s worth more to us than someone would pay for him.

 

[Bobby9]

Really hope we move on from Brock today and get back some assets we can then flip for somebody who fits out core.

Would love McCann back for the 2nd line.

 

[Fatass]

Blueger is an incredibly replaceable player. You can't have roster players that go +20 games at a time without scoring a point. Especially when they are being paid twice the rate of a replacement player.

Blueger is on a great contract for another year. Suter is on a great contract for the rest of this year. They are both really important players. If either is traded (especially Blueger) it would need to be a serious overpay.
IMO the Soucy trade is all we do this TDL.

 

[Bobby9]

Blueger is on a great contract for another year. Suter is on a great contract for the rest of this year. They are both really important players. If either is traded (especially Blueger) it would need to be a serious overpay.
IMO the Soucy trade is all we do this TDL.

Agreed. People don't appreciatte our bottom 6 players enough.

They're far superior at meeting their expectations than the top 6 we have.

HOG has been abysmal this year. He is the one we need to get rid of.

People just want trades for the sake of trades.

 

[Canucker]

If we could somehow come away with a couple of guys like one of Matias Maccelli, or Jack Quinn and a center like Norris or Cozens, I'd be pretty stoked....but the reality of what we do today is probably a lot more depressing than uplifting.

 

[Soups On]

Agreed. People don't appreciatte our bottom 6 players enough.

They're far superior at meeting their expectations than the top 6 we have.

HOG has been abysmal this year. He is the one we need to get rid of.

People just want trades for the sake of trades.

It's the TDL drug, high demand rn.


Buffalo fans might hate Cozens more than Canucks fans hate Petey right now lol. That team needs some actual veterans to sort shit out.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

 

[dez]

Back to Colorado

 

[Canucker]

Back to Colorado

Rantanen is probably not playing ball because thats exactly his intent once he reaches free agency.

 

[JT Milker]

Rantanen must be asking for a crooked number.

 

[StickShift]

Back to Colorado

CBA prevents him from being traded back to Colorado this season (cannot re-acquire a player that another team retained on).

But I do wonder if he is going back to Colorado in the off-season. It sounds like that's where he originally wanted to be and at a cap that Colorado would've accepted—but his agent was holding out for too much and the lines of communication fell apart.

I would watch to see if he fires his agent. If he does, I think he goes back to Colorado this off-season.

 

[TruGr1t]

Are the Canucks unique in the league insofar as they apparently seem to have a bunch of players worth high-money contracts that are simultaneously apparently worth little in trade?

 

[StickShift]

Are the Canucks unique in the league insofar as they apparently seem to have a bunch of players worth high-money contracts that are simultaneously apparently worth little in trade?

God forbid Quinn Hughes is ever on the trade market. We'll be told that Braden Schneider is untouchable.

 

[Fatass]

Guy on 650 right now saying that our owner is holding up a Boeser trade to Florida.

 

[Canucks LB]

Guy on 650 right now saying that our owner is holding up a Boeser trade to Florida.

 

[TruGr1t]

Guy on 650 right now saying that our owner is holding up a Boeser trade to Florida.

Who is this guy?