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Canucks probably focused more on next season at this point. Playoffs this year are gravy since they'll probably easily get bounced in first round.
I don't think so. They traded for Marcus Pettersson to improve their defense now, for the future yes, but also because of where they are in the standings.

They're not going into the playoffs with Pius Suter as their number one. They're not going to piss away this season when they're still in the hunt.
 
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I don't think so. They traded for Marcus Pettersson to improve their defense now, for the future yes, but also because of where they are in the standings.

They're not going into the playoffs with Pius Suter as their number one. They're not going to piss away this season when they're still in the hunt.

They signed Pettersson for six years, he wasn't a rental. He's part of a 3+ window that includes signing Hughes. I think they'll take a bit of a hit this year if it means going for it next year.
 
For the record, I think we should keep Petey. Get him a sport psychologist, get a good vet or two to help him and guide him, give him the support he needs.

If we are trading with the Isles, I only really see Barzal and Dobson as appealing pieces on the roster. Dobson, as has been pointed out, isn’t as great a fit especially post MP3 trade, but he’s a much better asset than most of that roster. Ditto for Barzal.

But again, I’d rather we not trade Petey - even if it means we are waiting into next season for him to regain his form.

Oh veterans, at first look I thought for a sec you meant veterinarian. I was like ok yeah Pete got issues but treating him like a cat is a bit extreme now isn't it?
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I just don’t think it will leave enough cap space for us to have a competitive forward group.

I'd agree the cap is the problem, but you would ditch all the older, higher-dollar wingers like Boeser, Garland ... go heavy down the middle with the remaining cap space, and try to fill the wing with ELCs, older guys looking to win a Cup on 1-year deals, and O'Connors.
 
They signed Pettersson for six years, he wasn't a rental. I think they'll take a bit of a hit this year if it means going for it next year.
Never said he was a rental, they jumped the queue to get him to help today.

I don't see it at all. That's what some fans want sure, but no way JR is going for that. If they were looking long term they could have kept the nyr 1st and tried to improve their defense in the off season. They made that trade to help now.
 
I'd agree the cap is the problem, but you would ditch all the older, higher-dollar wingers like Boeser, Garland ... go heavy down the middle with the remaining cap space, and try to fill the wing with ELCs, older guys looking to win a Cup on 1-year deals, and O'Connors.
Ya, it’s an interesting concept, and I do think Tochett is definitely the coach to try a stacked defence / low offense approach with.

And I also think these type of teams, while average at best in the regular season, are dangerous in the playoffs. See the Trotz Islanders.
 
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Never said he was a rental, they jumped the queue to get him to help today.

I don't see it at all. That's what some fans want sure, but no way JR is going for that. If they were looking long term they could have kept the nyr 1st and tried to improve their defense in the off season. They made that trade to help now.

I just think they're looking at this from the point of a 3-5 year window, and their main goal is to sign Hughes. I don't think success this year will really impact Hughes negotiations (next year will heavily) since it's already a gong show.
 
Well let’s make this news even more exciting and they are working on an Allvin classic trade then trade again. Trade with NYI to collect assets, then trade some of those assets to the Blues for Schenn? Thomas? Do the Blues need a #1 D? Does the world still see Dobson as a #1? Why is he even on the block? Has Lou finally lost his marbles?
 
Hits are one thing but we still lack some bullish skill. Do you think we can intimidate other teams?
Do any teams intimidate other teams anymore? Maybe Florida? How many of the top teams in the league would you call intimidating?

I think having a bunch of two-way soldiers that either have size or play fearlessly is important, but I think we already have a decent amount of guys who do that. Obviously getting some Tkachuk or Tom Wilson sort of player would be great, but I think skill at forward is easily a bigger issue than size/toughness at this point.
 
Who needs skilled forwards when you have Rick Tocchet as your coach? Let’s run 12 grinders, 6 top pairing defenders, pray vezina Demko is back, and see what happens.
Pretty much every Tocchet coached team, low scoring and losers
Well let’s make this news even more exciting and they are working on an Allvin classic trade then trade again. Trade with NYI to collect assets, then trade some of those assets to the Blues for Schenn? Thomas? Do the Blues need a #1 D? Does the world still see Dobson as a #1? Why is he even on the block? Has Lou finally lost his marbles?
Brock might be a nice fit sliding in beside Horvat.
Part of me wonders if they know it's going to be impossible to get true talent at C and are instead trying to build a team like the 2010s Predators.
There are many teams that did what was necessary to get their stars.
A planned tank doesn't last a decade.
Would the Canucks miss a 100 point player in this system? WAIT they don't have any now and when they did they become 60-70 point players and the team still lost.
So in reality all the team has is an over paid forward and a subject to blame or an ongoing story to divert attention and sell hope of coming back, just wait a little longer, just a bit more, next year then we won't trade because we won't get enough in return.

As an example of one planned tank. Pittsburgh dropped 48 pts in one year and got lucky in that there was a strike but that led to Malkin and Crosby, I can't not mention then Tampa's tank for 2 years that got them Stamkos and Hedman. Planned for. A 4 year plan followed up with a decade and more of playoffs and a couple of cups

It isn't likely there is a trade for a McKenna or Misa or Celebrini or ...... but there is drafting one or two.
Where did the Sedins, Linden, Kesler, Bure, Demko, Hughes or EP40 com from? Trades? And how long did some of those stay around? On average 8 years with Linden coming and going and the Sedins for 17 years.

If this team dropped 10 wins for next year they are in the Mckenna, Misa draft chance. Especially if they trade Hughes, who is likely to move on anyway the first chance he gets a choice and trade him, like they did Bure, for the first overall which some teams would do for a full year of trying to get him to sign his next massive contract.

One bad year, next year, one massive trade next year and the team MIGHT be the best it has been since 2010 mostly due to having so many in the same age group. IMO it would be a coup to get M&M in one year.
 
Just to entertain the idea let's say Pettersson goes to the Isles. Rumors seem like Dobson would be the return coming back. However that makes no sense for the Nucks. We would probably have the best D corps in the entire league but the worst forward corps. So obviously we would be flipping Dobson. So what young centres are available for Dobson? I just can't see it happening.
 
Just to entertain the idea let's say Pettersson goes to the Isles. Rumors seem like Dobson would be the return coming back. However that makes no sense for the Nucks. We would probably have the best D corps in the entire league but the worst forward corps. So obviously we would be flipping Dobson. So what young centres are available for Dobson? I just can't see it happening.
Flip him to Chicago for Nazar.
 
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There are many teams that did what was necessary to get their stars.
A planned tank doesn't last a decade.
Would the Canucks miss a 100 point player in this system? WAIT they don't have any now and when they did they become 60-70 point players and the team still lost.
So in reality all the team has is an over paid forward and a subject to blame or an ongoing story to divert attention and sell hope of coming back, just wait a little longer, just a bit more, next year then we won't trade because we won't get enough in return.

As an example of one planned tank. Pittsburgh dropped 48 pts in one year and got lucky in that there was a strike but that led to Malkin and Crosby, I can't not mention then Tampa's tank for 2 years that got them Stamkos and Hedman. Planned for. A 4 year plan followed up with a decade and more of playoffs and a couple of cups

It isn't likely there is a trade for a McKenna or Misa or Celebrini or ...... but there is drafting one or two.
Where did the Sedins, Linden, Kesler, Bure, Demko, Hughes or EP40 com from? Trades? And how long did some of those stay around? On average 8 years with Linden coming and going and the Sedins for 17 years.

If this team dropped 10 wins for next year they are in the Mckenna, Misa draft chance. Especially if they trade Hughes, who is likely to move on anyway the first chance he gets a choice and trade him, like they did Bure, for the first overall which some teams would do for a full year of trying to get him to sign his next massive contract.

One bad year, next year, one massive trade next year and the team MIGHT be the best it has been since 2010 mostly due to having so many in the same age group. IMO it would be a coup to get M&M in one year.
This is not likely at all. Even if you suck enough (which will be borderline impossible if you're playing the majority of our defencemen) and win the lottery, the majority of 1st overalls are not franchise centers. In the last 5 years (2020-2024), Celebrini has been the only 1st overall to look like a true building block. Never mind the fact that we're going to need to find another franchise defenceman if we trade Hughes.
 

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