Canucks & NHL News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | LOOKS LIKE GRUB IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS!

[Peen]

The wording. How do you not throw in something like, "both parties are committed to while still teammates to work on their relationship for the betterment of the team". Something that doesn't say that "f*** this shit, I don't care anymore"

that’s fair i guess but does it change any of the conversations? no.

something must be close fwiw

 

[ManVanFan]

He's obviously fed up. There was some discussion on the radio speculating Allvin would rather trade Miller, while JR has never been much of a Pettersson fan and lands on the other side of the fence.

All you got to do is look where the Penguins are now and see that having old ass aging stars isn't going to win you many hockey games.

 

[JanBulisPiggyBack]

Ok then make the f***ing trade already god damn it

 

[pitseleh]

The only reason I can see for doing this is they're going to trade Pettersson, and they're getting out ahead on the damage control because they know this will be extremely unpopular with a not-insignificant portion of the fanbase.

The only reason I’d lean the other way is he implies a retool is in order and I can’t imagine planning to retool, wasting the next year or two from Miller, only to still have him for the back end of his deal.

 

[TruGr1t]

The only reason I’d lean the other way is he implies a retool is in order and I can’t imagine planning to retool, wasting the next year or two from Miller, only to still have him for the back end of his deal.

Maybe though I can't really see a reason for doing this if you're trading Miller, as that's what everyone wants and it's pretty clear what his value is, as Bertuzzi said "It is, what it is." I guess if the return is so putrid it's borderline indefensible maybe you do this.

 

[ManVanFan]

This wasn’t a press conference, it was an interview so he definitely wanted to say this.

He’s preparing us for a meh/bad trade return

The fans have been cheering J.T. Miller. I don't think it has much to do with the return just the fact that someone who is well liked either Petey or Miller is going to be gone. Horvat was 3rd tier favourite and a lot of fans were not happy about that. I don't think it would stop at either or, a divided dressing room more than a couple players are going to have to go. IMO.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Y'all are getting really close to the feeling I got at the 2013 draft. I gotta grab my popcorn. This is my favourite part. The "uncalm" calm.

 

[vancityluongo]

another funny aspect of this - just days after gary mason launches a tweet downplaying (in third person) his connections to the team, he delivers the biggest canucks story in possibly years, straight from the man that no one hears from, who reports only to the owner

what are the odds that aquilini sent rutherford to speak to take the heat off of himself?

 

[ManVanFan]

Kirill Kaprizov out for 4 weeks. Just enough time to get enough cap space for Boeser.

 

[ProviesGhost]

Fans going to turn on both players, if they haven't already.

 

[Nucker101]

The fans have been cheering J.T. Miller. I don't think it has much to do with the return just the fact that someone who is well liked either Petey or Miller is going to be gone. Horvat was 3rd tier favourite and a lot of fans were not happy about that either. I don't think it would stop at either or, a divided dressing room more than a couple players are going to have to go. IMO.

It sounds like more than a couple of players are going.

We’ve heard Petey, Miller, Boeser and Demko all discussed. And if those names are out there then I doubt guys like Soucy and Suter aren’t available.

 

[StreetHawk]

The only reason I’d lean the other way is he implies a retool is in order and I can’t imagine planning to retool, wasting the next year or two from Miller, only to still have him for the back end of his deal.

Miller is 32 in 2025. In 2017, Bergeron of Boston was 32. They made the finals in 2019 when he was 34. But, that's having Marchand, Pasta, McAvoy, Rask, older Chara on the roster as well. Beyond Miller would be whatever the return for Petey is, Hughes, Hronek, Debrusk, Demko (questionable health), and whichever young players develop.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

another funny aspect of this - just days after gary mason launches a tweet downplaying (in third person) his connections to the team, he delivers the biggest canucks story in possibly years, straight from the man that no one hears from, who reports only to the owner

what are the odds that aquilini sent rutherford to speak to take the heat off of himself?

I hear Hector Salamanca coming...

 

[ProviesGhost]

I still can't figure out why both signed. THAT to me is the bizarre part.

 

[brock hughes007]

So sounds increasingly like Brock is going to be a goner. Shame because I do really enjoy the guy.

I watched him closely last night.He let his guy go witch caused the 2nd goal for Stl.He skates like his legs are 50 lbs each.Shows little effort then skates back to the bench for a rest.He needs to go..

 

[arttk]

He's obviously fed up. There was some discussion on the radio speculating Allvin would rather trade Miller, while JR has never been much of a Pettersson fan and lands on the other side of the fence.

not sure JR not being a fan of Petterson is a thing, he has talked about extending Petey as a priority since he joined.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I still can't figure out why both signed. THAT to me is the bizarre part.

mrkrabsmoneymeme.jpg

 

[ManVanFan]

It sounds like more than a couple of players are going.

We’ve heard Petey, Miller, Boeser and Demko all discussed. And if those names are out there then I doubt guys like Soucy and Suter aren’t available.

Either way you are going to affect the entire team no matter who is traded. They are going to need to run a plan by Hughes, then he can decide the fate of the team because he's the only one that cares right now.

 

[credulous]

time to put rutherford out to pasture. he sounds like he's given up and is just gonna trade both miller and pettersson for scraps and then try to cobble together a middling team to try to convince hughes to stay

 

[ManVanFan]

Miller is 32 in 2025. In 2017, Bergeron of Boston was 32. They made the finals in 2019 when he was 34. But, that's having Marchand, Pasta, McAvoy, Rask, older Chara on the roster as well. Beyond Miller would be whatever the return for Petey is, Hughes, Hronek, Debrusk, Demko (questionable health), and whichever young players develop.

Miller is NOT Bergeron though. Basically the complete opposite type of player. Miller is more like Matt Duchene.

 

[God]

3 game losing streak incoming because this team seems to just kick itself in the nuts over and over again

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Jim Rutherford, who will turn 76 in a little under 3 weeks, is gonna re-tool an NHL roster. Sure.

 

[Canucker]

time to put rutherford out to pasture. he sounds like he's given up and is just gonna trade both miller and pettersson for scraps and then try to cobble together a middling team to try to convince hughes to stay

So...much like we already have with EP and Miller?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

time to put rutherford out to pasture. he sounds like he's given up and is just gonna trade both miller and pettersson for scraps and then try to cobble together a middling team to try to convince hughes to stay

What did you think would happen?

 

[pitseleh]

Maybe though I can't really see a reason for doing this if you're trading Miller, as that's what everyone wants and it's pretty clear what his value is, as Bertuzzi said "It is, what it is." I guess if the return is so putrid it's borderline indefensible maybe you do this.

The comment that you may not even get a second line centre back seemed directed exactly at that scenario.