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[Vector]

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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[Tob]

That seems pretty definitive. Crap.

His one big pay day and quite frankly, the stars aligned for him. Other teams offering $5+ plus an extra year, management held firm on $4.X plus BC taxes, it's likely $10M+ difference in the contract post taxes. The hill was too steep to climb.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Management has a plan, has numbers for certain players and positions, and will make hard decisions. Benning would’ve handed Z 6x6 by now. I love this group.

Weird how he didn't saying anything about Lindholm?

 

[Bgav]

Isn't it odd that Allvin and Rutherford sign these Russians and after hiring Tocchet they are all gone at quite a price. Include OEL there too. Podkolzin next?

Surprised they kept Malkin in Pitts

 

[StickShift]

I'll say about Zadorov what I said about Garland yesterday.

The Canucks need to prioritize their cap space for last-minute players. Who do you want on the ice when you are defending a one-goal lead—or—who do you want on the ice when you need the game-tying goal.

Zadorov is neither of those players. The money would be better allocated towards a player like Tanev who would be your number #1 defender in a last-minute defence.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I would like to round out our defense with Pierre-Olivier Joseph and one of Chris Tanev or John Marino.

Assuming Guentzel/Reinhart will re-sign with their respective times.

 

[Luck 6]

Tanev and Guentzel are the targets now.

 

[wonton15]

With Zadorov leaving, we are essentially firing Assistant GM Dan Milstein from the team. Cleared out Kuzmenko, Mikheyev, and Zadorov all in year. Hilarious

 

[Nick Lang]

unless you have a follow up trade, these shifts in draft positions, make no sense to me without seeing what’s happening on the draft board

Yeah I don't quite get it either. Unless they are just not too thrilled with the picks in the second round and beyond for this draft. They still have 11 top 3 picks over the net two years, so maybe they are just thinking of using some of those extra picks to get as high up in the draft as possible. From that standpoint it's something I would likely do as well if you have a bunch of targets falling in that 21 range.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Sign me up for Tanev, Dillon, Marino, Toffoli, and Samsonov (+McGroarty+ehlers).

No issues with any of Allvins contracts, targets or assessments so far.

 

[ProviesGhost]

I’m incredibly salty and annoyed that we kept myers over zadorov.

I would easily give zadorov the extra 1m he wanted.

The only way this makes any sense is if we actually get a STAR top 6 F and someone like dillion

Coach’s preference. According to the chef.

 

[theguardianII]

See my comments in the Myers signing thread from 2019.

I think the guy is going to get massively overpaid.

Just entering his prime? Durable. 5 mil would not be over paid in 3 years or 6 years. Stated outright he would take a discount to stay here. What does that mean when FA players that want to be here, willing to take a discount are ignored?

How much does the rest of the league value big Z?

Hughes got the Norris but how much did he help in the playoffs?

 

[valkynax]

Very sad to see general Zad leaving.

But, things will have to move on. Thanks for the memories my man, you were a true stud. Hope your career goes well.

 

[Vector]

 

[Soups On]

Aight - time for Dillon and Tanev to sign here. Come home fellas, it's time

 

[Hansen]

So relieved the Canucks didn’t give Zadorov the bag. Shades of 2019 Myers.

But we gave Myers another bag!

 

[bossram]

The right decision from Allvin. If the number was ultimately too high, you can't give it to him.

Now if NJ really is just trying to get rid of Marino, I'd be very interested in that.

 

[Nucker101]

Guentzel, Reinhart, Tanev, Zadorov gone


The goal is now to secure DeSmith, Stenlund, Motte, Dillon and Stephenson

 

[TruGr1t]

Just entering his prime? Durable. 5 mil would not be over paid in 3 years or 6 years. Stated outright he would take a discount to stay here. What does that mean when FA players that want to be here, willing to take a discount are ignored?

How much does the rest of the league value big Z?

Hughes got the Norris but how much did he help in the playoffs?

They already have Hughes-Soucy down the left. They can’t pay a third guy $5M+ AAV without handicapping the rest of the line-up and their chance at a star free agent.

 

[Vector]

The right decision from Allvin. If the number was ultimately too high, you can't give it to him.

Now if NJ really is just trying to get rid of Marino, I'd be very interested in that.

He had a pretty rough year last year, right? If so, maybe that would suppress his value enough to make him a viable acquisition.

 

[Canucks LB]

Guentzel, Reinhart, Tanev, Zadorov gone


The goal is now to secure DeSmith, Stenlund, Motte, Dillon and Stephenson

* hits head over the wall *

 

[Vector]

But as of Friday morning, the Canes were still waiting for an answer from Guentzel’s camp, led by veteran agent Ben Hankinson. So we’ll see where this goes, but I wonder if it might be too alluring for Guentzel to dip his toes into free agency Monday while still leaving the door open on a Hurricanes return, knowing what’s on the table from them.

I’m not sure how this one will end, but it’s in a delicate and fascinating place.

There are whispers that Vancouver might be willing to go seven years and $9 million a season for Guentzel, but that’s unconfirmed at this point. Obviously there would be a long list of suitors for Guentzel regardless if he goes to market.

 

[TruGr1t]

The right decision from Allvin. If the number was ultimately too high, you can't give it to him.

Now if NJ really is just trying to get rid of Marino, I'd be very interested in that.

Depends how you feel about Marino vs. free agents options like Tanev and Carrier. They will all cost in the $4-4.75M range probably and you won’t move assets for the FAs.

I like Marino as well, but would heavily depend on the deal.

 

[bossram]

He had a pretty rough year last year, right? If so, maybe that would suppress his value enough to make him a viable acquisition.

He had a bad year last season. His 2022-23 season was excellent. If he can return to that form, it would be a huge win for the team that lands him.

There were some rumours he had some kind of recurring injury he played through last season. And the state of the Devils was just more generally in turmoil, which probably affected his play too.

 

[wonton15]

Rick doing some stellar media tampering. Basically confirmed.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

We dodged a major bomb by not paying Z 5 mil aav. No matter what the term is, paying someone who is a #4/5 tweener that type of money is what f***s with teams spreadsheets. I'd much, much rather have Tanev at 5.5, or Matt Roy at 6 over Z at that number.