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I'm definitely less concerned about it after seeing him continue to produce away from Crosby.
Am I happy about a guy turning 30 in October getting signed for 7 years? No, but I view it the same way as Lindholm potentially getting re-signed earlier on.
This team is in win-now mode, and their window likely isn't very large. Do whatever it takes to give them the best chance to win a cup in the near future even if it f***s them over later on.
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PavelBure10
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Myers had an amazing season last year. Unfortunately he had some real stinkers before that. I realize the Myers is a right handed defenseman but I would rather have Zadorov than focusing all of the attention on Myers. Zadorov 6'6 gives us some snarl, the 6'8 Myers does not. It really sucks that we are stuck in this predicament because I'd love to have both players back.
The Canucks had a solid team last year. Scoring needed some help big time, especially in the playoffs but without injuries "ahem Demko" this team could of very well been in Edmontons place facing Florida.
Mikheyev needs to go. Also would consider Lekkerimaki and defenseman Pettersson for a handful of games to see if they can make the jump.
The Canucks had a solid team last year. Scoring needed some help big time, especially in the playoffs but without injuries "ahem Demko" this team could of very well been in Edmontons place facing Florida.
Mikheyev needs to go. Also would consider Lekkerimaki and defenseman Pettersson for a handful of games to see if they can make the jump.
Guentzel should have been the original target. Kuz for Lindholm never made sense.
It's like Alvin was a step behind on everything. He tried to move Mikheyev, but prioritized dealing Kuz first, and thus being forced to send $ back to Calgary.
It took about 10 minutes for PA to realize what every Flame fan could tell you, Lindholm is not some play driving winger/C combo for the Pettersson line. Lindholm gets quickly injured, and now there's no way to bring in Guentzel without dealing Lindholm for an immediate loss, and/or likely moving a prospect he wasn't willing to move.
A little bit of saving grace, was that EP was so bad, that Lindholm looked like a savior for the 2C role, but.. yea that's about it.
Absolutely ZERO posters here would have made that trade if they were told at the time, that it would have led to nothing more than beating Nashville. ZERO. Anyone who says otherwise with a straight face, isn't invited to my poker nights.
If this isn't just speculation, then it sadly makes me think Joshua is gone. Because they don't have the cap space for Joshua + Guentzel + two good D to replace Zadorov and Cole in the starting lineup. (assuming Myers and Blueger brought back)May have missed it being posted before, but Drance with a new article today on the team’s priorities:
This is a team that thinks their core group is close to contending credibly for the Stanley Cup, but that still believes they need to upgrade their defence corps while — perhaps more importantly — adding an established, star-level scoring winger into the mix.
…
Now, the top priority is to find that difference-making player — another Hronek — to further elevate this team. To push it over the top.
Ideally that player is a top-line winger, and the team is excited internally about some of the forward possibilities that are currently bound for the open market on July 1. Make no mistake though, further blue-line upgrades are viewed as essential too.
Drance: What Filip Hronek's extension tells us about the Canucks' offseason plans
Hronek's extension reinforces the specific brand of aggression that has become typical and characteristic of this Canucks front office.www.nytimes.com
And obviously Allvin quote about finding the next Joshua
Yeah, the article also says: The team would love to keep big-bodied glue guys like Nikita Zadorov and Dakota Joshua in the fold if they can, but internally, the Canucks have begun to accept that that’s going to be difficult.
Flew over a certain someone's head
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krutovsdonut
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pretty sure we went after lindholm because we couldn't get traction with the penguins on guentzel. we definitely went after guentzel first. i appreciate that allvin walked rather than allow dubas to wait for a bidding war.
lindholm was great in the playoffs, which is what we got him for. i am highly skeptical guentzel takes us any further. the team's playoff outcome does not depend on either and foundered for other reasons.
but using a 1st for a rental always hurts and it would be nice to get guentzel, our original target, even if the ledger math does not quite line up. nice in the sense that allvin, jr et al get to implement their plan. not really my plan but they have been doing well lately.
I am toxic
. . . even in small doses
Spinning faster than the top at the end of inception.
A fifth rounder??? Will people never learn?!?
May have missed it being posted before, but Drance with a new article today on the team’s priorities:
This is a team that thinks their core group is close to contending credibly for the Stanley Cup, but that still believes they need to upgrade their defence corps while — perhaps more importantly — adding an established, star-level scoring winger into the mix.
…
Now, the top priority is to find that difference-making player — another Hronek — to further elevate this team. To push it over the top.
Ideally that player is a top-line winger, and the team is excited internally about some of the forward possibilities that are currently bound for the open market on July 1. Make no mistake though, further blue-line upgrades are viewed as essential too.
Drance: What Filip Hronek's extension tells us about the Canucks' offseason plans
Hronek's extension reinforces the specific brand of aggression that has become typical and characteristic of this Canucks front office.
I think it’s related to trying to move out Mikheyev then reallocate his cap hit to the defence.
that new york times website is so slow you can print a PDF of the article before the paywall hits LOLMay have missed it being posted before, but Drance with a new article today on the team’s priorities:
This is a team that thinks their core group is close to contending credibly for the Stanley Cup, but that still believes they need to upgrade their defence corps while — perhaps more importantly — adding an established, star-level scoring winger into the mix.
…
Now, the top priority is to find that difference-making player — another Hronek — to further elevate this team. To push it over the top.
Ideally that player is a top-line winger, and the team is excited internally about some of the forward possibilities that are currently bound for the open market on July 1. Make no mistake though, further blue-line upgrades are viewed as essential too.
Drance: What Filip Hronek's extension tells us about the Canucks' offseason plans
Hronek's extension reinforces the specific brand of aggression that has become typical and characteristic of this Canucks front office.
lol taj is being sarcastic and trolling. flew over your head?
Lol, Grip it N RYP is is being sarcastic in his comments about Taj. Zoom over YOUR head much?lol taj is being sarcastic and trolling. flew over your head?
#overyourheadception
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May have missed it being posted before, but Drance with a new article today on the team’s priorities:
This is a team that thinks their core group is close to contending credibly for the Stanley Cup, but that still believes they need to upgrade their defence corps while — perhaps more importantly — adding an established, star-level scoring winger into the mix.
…
Now, the top priority is to find that difference-making player — another Hronek — to further elevate this team. To push it over the top.
Ideally that player is a top-line winger, and the team is excited internally about some of the forward possibilities that are currently bound for the open market on July 1. Make no mistake though, further blue-line upgrades are viewed as essential too.
Drance: What Filip Hronek's extension tells us about the Canucks' offseason plans
Hronek's extension reinforces the specific brand of aggression that has become typical and characteristic of this Canucks front office.
I mean who are they excited about in the FA market outside of Guentzel and Reinhart (who probably won't make it)? I guess Marchessault or Stamkos might qualify as "top line". Not a lot on the list. Defense you should have opportunity to improve if you can find the cap space, there are quite a few interesting names on the FA list this year.
Just A Bit Outside
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Seems like General Zad really does want to stay, and team is working it out with Milstein to find a solution if possible.
And we are pushing hard for Guentzle, already drawn up ofelfer of 65 mil, which would be just a touch above 8 mil AAV.
This is getting spicy. Sichuan hotpot spicy.
And we are pushing hard for Guentzle, already drawn up ofelfer of 65 mil, which would be just a touch above 8 mil AAV.
This is getting spicy. Sichuan hotpot spicy.
I would love it if we could grab Guentzel and keep Zad. Seems out of reach, and will clearly take a Mikh move at the least. But I think Zad is a potential organisational talisman of the Burrows, Snepts, Gino ilk. Not saying he is there yet, but he is that kind of player.
Bourne Endeavor
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Have to be honest. This is a lot of assumptions without much to go off.
We know they attempted to move Mikheyev but balked at being asked to add a sweetern--something they're still going now by the sound of it. We can certainly debate whether that was a good decision or not but the difference between Kuzmenko and Mikheyev is we could move one as a reclamation project instead of a cap dump. That's why they prioritized the former.
Lindholm also became a target in the event Pettersson wouldn't negotiate. Rutherford openly admitted how different that approach was which seemingly made management a bit worried. We know they eventually discussed the possibility of a trade with Carolina, though I think that was more the Canes inquiring than us asking.
Again, we could argue whether they should have. In this particular case, I do think Lindholm was the wrong target. I also don't necessarily think that deal gets us Guentzel. From everything we heard, Pittsburgh pretty adamantly wanted Hoglander and/or Lekkerimaki/Willander.
It's easy to look back now and undo the Lindholm trade but if Pittsburgh remained firm on wanting those particular pieces, are you still game to make that deal?
Yeah unfortunately it costed us assets. But I think this was a calculated move, with the risks considered. As we basically kicked the contending window open, it will cost us in assets and money to make a real push.
It's light years ahead of dumb shit moves like trading in Toffoli, then not even tendering an offer, because the f***ing imbecile that did it doesn't know how to set up an alarm clock.
Does this work as a possible solution to their lack of Cap space
The Canucks brass need to rent a boat and travel to Robidas Island and hall in one of its long time residents to expand their LTIR salaries; like the big boys in Vegas and Florida do.
Here is a Big Fish in Utah that is apparently also eligible for the HHOF this year which is really odd.
www.tsn.ca
The Canucks brass need to rent a boat and travel to Robidas Island and hall in one of its long time residents to expand their LTIR salaries; like the big boys in Vegas and Florida do.
Here is a Big Fish in Utah that is apparently also eligible for the HHOF this year which is really odd.
Potential candidates for the 2024 Hockey Hall of Fame class | TSN
A number of notable names will become eligible for the Hockey Hall of Fame for the first time when the selection committee meets this summer. Among them are Stanley Cup winners, Olympic gold medalists and those who have claimed numerous individual awards.
www.tsn.ca
y2kcanucks
Better than you
Guentzel would be a very nice, but expensive signing. If he makes it to July 1 I’d be surprised if the Canucks don’t get him. But you never know how stupid another franchise might be.
My guess: 7 years, $9.5M AAV.
To make it work, I think the Canucks NEED Lekkerimaki to make the jump. He’s a highly touted first round pick. These guys, if they have NHL top 6 potential, tend to make the jump fairly quickly. If he’s as good as we hope (and need him to be) he should force his way onto team. Suddenly a top 6 of:
Hoglander-Miller-Boeser
Guentzel-Pettersson-Lekkerimaki
Doesn’t seem so bad.
The next priorities should be a right handed 3C, and addressing the D.
I love Zadorov and what he did in the playoffs but we can’t afford to pay a 4/5D north of $5M. He’s a luxury we can’t afford. Ideally the Canucks bring in two second pair defensemen (no, not Myers), but I don’t see it working with the money.
My guess: 7 years, $9.5M AAV.
To make it work, I think the Canucks NEED Lekkerimaki to make the jump. He’s a highly touted first round pick. These guys, if they have NHL top 6 potential, tend to make the jump fairly quickly. If he’s as good as we hope (and need him to be) he should force his way onto team. Suddenly a top 6 of:
Hoglander-Miller-Boeser
Guentzel-Pettersson-Lekkerimaki
Doesn’t seem so bad.
The next priorities should be a right handed 3C, and addressing the D.
I love Zadorov and what he did in the playoffs but we can’t afford to pay a 4/5D north of $5M. He’s a luxury we can’t afford. Ideally the Canucks bring in two second pair defensemen (no, not Myers), but I don’t see it working with the money.
Welcome back. The fouls stench of the fatass will remain with us for some time, but we are making progress.
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If 65m is the actual target as rumored, I think I'm OK with sending a 2026 3rd or whatever to Carolina for Guentzel's rights.
8.1 x 8 fits a lot better than 9.3 x 7 imo. The extra year doesn't matter at that point, and with the OEL crunch incoming, every dollar matters.
That 1m could be the difference between keeping Zadorov/Joshua or bringing Tanev home.
8.1 x 8 fits a lot better than 9.3 x 7 imo. The extra year doesn't matter at that point, and with the OEL crunch incoming, every dollar matters.
That 1m could be the difference between keeping Zadorov/Joshua or bringing Tanev home.
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